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Question Ulti.

Alot of your read on me is beacuse of Sbell. How is Sbell different this game from last twords me he was scum on both and i am town on both?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Being totally honest, hanging out with friends is good for me and I don't want to actually get banned from mafia. I like it here. But I've lived in Jersey my entire life, and it's impossible to get rid of all the f*** you arrogance. I do try tho (honest!), and a lot of stuff just does not come off well in text.

This is actually super genuine of Ulti. Talked to ulti a few times outside of games I feel like he is very misunderstood at times.

I like when Han uses unique words. Makes me have to good them. Lol I am not the best at English and grammar obviously. I still not sure how I got good grades in them classes in high school and college lol.

Actually is Ulti being loud and wrong to look town like he said others would be doing? That is amusing

UltimaterializerX posted...

I think Plum is scum, too.

I'm now up to where I pop in during the "loud wrong" argument. "Yay." SKIP.

Even while catatonic and my entire body was in pain I had Sultan and Plum pegged all the way back in topic 2:

So you think Plum has been bussing me all game? He has called me and only me scum basically all game

Oh yeah lol my bad. I didn't vote peaf obviously

Peace___Frog posted...

I'm not following you at all, Sultan.

Basically yesterday I did not think any of the 3 of you were a good lynch. Though plum was a better lynch.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Peaf [4] - (Han), Ben, (Han), Plum, Death, red
Isquen [4] (Sultan), EDumey, (Han), (Lea), Kirby, Lea, Han
Lea [2] (Kirby), Sbell, JC
Plum [2] Peaf, (Han), Sultan
Han [1] - Isquen, (JC), (Sultan)
Sultan [1] - (Plum), Hb, (Isquen)
Dumey [0] - (Peaf), (Lea)
Ben [0] - (Peaf), (Lea), (Death)
Red [0] (JC)
Kirby [0] - (Han), (Lea), (Sultan), (Peaf)
Hb [0] - (Sultan)
Sbell [0] - (Plum)

Plum would eventually break the tie by unvoting.

Sultan was post 351, so he was there at the end of the day and committed to nothing. Isquen voted for him, and Sultan had a vote the other way around, so I'm surprised Sultan didn't do anything.

Very hard for me to see this as anything other than a town/town lynch with Scum Sultan knowing a vote for either would make him look awful. SBell more or less telling us Sultan is a power role also helps.

Kill with fire.

Bruh I didn't even know it went to OT.

I said I might not have been around for EOD beacuse of Tequando.

I was coming around on Isquen EOD. And saw his alluded vanilla claim. I felt weird about Han Voted Han.. Han wasn't going to get lynched or saw Plum who wasn't one of Lea Isquen or Peaf had votes so I voted Peaf and wasn't around the rest of day.

PunishedBen posted...

Here is my logic fully spelled out.

Last game Sbell and Han did not want to recruit Sultan, and I think one reason is because they were afraid of him making a mistake as scum. Sbell, acted so confident that Sultan was "Playing like Town Sultan". He said if he was wrong he would worship and bow down to the throne of Sultan or something. I think if Sultan was a scummate of Sbell he would be much more worried that Sultan will slip up and not be quick to be so confident about this.

I know this is attacking myself but not true they thought I looked too town to recruit or something like that

HanOfTheNekos posted...

This sure is a weird inconsistency where Ulti I'm pretty sure knew SBell was Scum earlier and I guess in his reading back, he decided to stop remembering that fact.

Scum slip?

Mzero I did not vote myself

UltimaterializerX posted...

Was slightly exapecting to come back to votes beacuse man did that make me look bad like not reading isquens post the first time around and took me time to process it

Bolding for emphasis. This is from Sultan.

Town does not care if they look bad. Scum does. Kill it with fire.

Pretty sure town does too this is a blatant lie

htaeD posted...

I dont know what other answer you expected

True not like he was going to say he is scum lol. But I see the reasoning.
It was also timed weirdly.

What do you think about his late vote in lea?

Save been a week since post

Hbthebattle posted...

I thought she was scum at that time, and preferred her as a lynch to Isquen and Peaf.

Okay that is a decent answer. Hmm

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I would also say Scum probably plans on shooting me tonight while a Doctor saves Cody.

Could be?? Unless they scanned a power or something. If you're town yeah probably a good shot.

I've been back and forth about what to think about you.

Today you've looked more normal Han so I think that helps?

Hbthebattle posted...

He wasn't on Isquen, he could have saved himself.

True peaf was around end day and ot.

But uh after the first stop. You tried to vote Lea

Hbthebattle posted...

##Vote: Lea

What's that about?

Kirby321 posted...

... What would a scum Peaf get saved by, Sultan?

Not getting lynched like plum basically saved peaf

Oh yeah in Nickelodeon my tocic good invention that gave someone a paranoid gun

Also a good point power hunting perhaps

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Unless they feared doc saving Peaf, Peaf was the best choice for a kill after EOD1. (Or if Peaf is somehow Scum)

Otherwise, Plum's moves toward end of day made him look really good, so he would have been a good kill.

But Lea, who looked lynchable, was killed. So that usually means she's got ideas that Scum doesn't want passed around (and keep in mind, B8 Towns typically ignore dead players, so it'd be good for someone to do a quick ISO and identify what Lea said aside from "lynch Dumey").

The other thought is that they just wanted to aim for someone traditionally good and less likely to be saved, but you'd have to compare Lea against other potential targets.

Good point. I can also see peaf being scum and got saved.
But idk

Hb am I still you only scum read?

I dont think Cody faked the Burn im just thinking like Ben said more Arsonist mechanics

masterplum posted...

That's an interesting theory. Some sort of spreader power that they tried to lure to Cody?

Biggest issue I see is that seems wildly unbalanced.

It would have to be a third party role. Is ulti really going to be that obvious about it?

I want to say no but it is Ulti he is a wildcard at times

Odd theory scum never intended on burning Cody, it could be a burn effect kinda thing like burn anyone visiting this person if no one visits Burn the target and they were hoping the scanner would visit cody so they could kill the cop.

Ulti pushing the cop to scan Cody would align with that.

But idk if this even makes sense.

But also choosing Cody to Burn doesn't make sense either

Oh wait Peaf Claimed Vanilla And Isquen just alluded to it.

Ben is still more than likely scum.

One thing I don't like about Dumey might be minor.

He stated Isquen didn't claim but he totally did claim vanilla. He is also kind of trying to write his own narrative on how EOD went

Idk if flavor fishing is nessisarily bad maybe it is helpful to them??

What if peaf is scum? How does that change things?

Looking thought topic 1. Plum was pushing the SBELL is loud and wrong he must be town narrative alot

Kirby321 posted...

Could I get a recap on everyone's thoughts on Plum? Are people saying he's town because he broke the tie on D1?

Plum seems a bit robotic and lazy but I could just think that beacuse his only read is basically calling me scum both days all day

UltimaterializerX posted...

Thoughts on Kirby?

Still have a scum lean on Kirby not a whole whole lot has changed since last day other than the strong feeling Ben is scum

Ulti since I am here and you think I'm scum any questions

Looking back at the Han Sbell interaction about me considering if that was scum theater. They both weren't commit to it at all and both moved on like it was nothing

HanOfTheNekos posted...

it was a slightly different thought process for you

Nobody would think you were Scum last game.
We weren't ever going to recruit you last game.

You were basically too angelic to be allowed to live.

Fair

Wonder if scum thought the same thing about Lea as they did me last game. She was towny but didn't think anyone would protect her?.

Someone mentioned it before as a joke but what if it is the same scum team as last game

All of you HB and Ben I think somone else mentioned it.

Thinking i am scum beacuse Sbell w a s insistent I was town.

I pointed this out that he was trying to pocket me like he did last game and I did not trust it. I even had a conversation with peaf about it.

However both of you pushing this agenda isn't surprising form someone who is scum and someone I think is scum.

End of day 1st I always hate tbh

Peace___Frog posted...

Day 1 votals:
Isquen [4] (Sultan), EDumey, (Han), (Lea), Kirby, Lea, Han
Peaf [3] - (Han), Ben, (Han), (Plum), Death, red
Lea [2] (Kirby), Sbell, JC
Plum [2] Peaf, (Han), Sultan
Han [1] - Isquen, (JC), (Sultan)
Sultan [1] - (Plum), Hb, (Isquen)
Dumey [0] - (Peaf), (Lea)
Ben [0] - (Peaf), (Lea), (Death)
Red [0] (JC)
Kirby [0] - (Han), (Lea), (Sultan), (Peaf)
Hb [0] - (Sultan)
Sbell [0] - (Plum)

Interesting that jc was on Lea with sbell, in retrospect.

I know i said that votes for other players very late in the day are likely town, but the vote on plum by Sultan is funny no matter how you look at it.

Could you please elaborate on that, Sultan? You voted for Plum and said "sure". What was that in response to?

Han proposed plum as a different option didn't think Lea or Isquen was a great option. I also didn't want to vote you. I wanted to go Han or HB and well neither were happening so I thought sure why not plum.

EDumey posted...

Isquen never claimed. He said he was not an active power role. So we could assume Vanilla or something passive like Bulletproof, but that's about it.

He claimed Vanilla..

If I stay with the thought one if Han or Lea was scum.. since Lea was town.. hmm

Also Sbell was very animated over Han but Sbell trying to make a link between him Han on purpose is something I could see him doing.

What was Sbell's thoughts on Ben?

Sbell did exactly what i thought he was doing which is funny.

Kirby also how did you think Lea was daycop?

Lynch HB?
That I think is mt alternative right now

Why did it quote that way ehh regardless.

PunishedBen posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...
You know what, thought exercise.

Where does everyone stand on lynching Ulti/Red/Cody right now?

So this is more of a question the a let's do one of these?