Lurker > red13n

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Possibly. I really wish I had jumped on him sooner because when I saw that journal I really wanted to jump on him but didn't and his claim made me really really want to jump on him but I didn't Red coming in to essentially back up how well a bus driver fit kind of made me back off and now I'm really thinking Red could be scum. Lopen trying to paint Red as the kill target and Red coming in to "buy" his bus driver claim.

It was a good claim, he read the text on the flip. Maybe hes actually bus(Not sure, honestly, the curiosity absolutely is eating my insides).

But I certainly wouldnt say I was defending him, hell I know one of my last posts was talking about how I totally get making that claim from a scum PoV.

I mean, maybe you havent played with me enough, but when you throw a vote down going "lol lets wake red up" I don't feel particularly pressured, I just get fucking annoyed. It doesn't necessarily spur productive conversation.

PunishedBen posted...

I do want to help you. Though I'm still trying to determine myself if Lopen would really do what he did to a scumbuddy what he did to Red on day 1 right after plum replaced in. It would be an ultimate backstab buss. Maybe the easiest way to figure that out will be getting red more involved in the present

How about you vote people you think are scum not a night owl before he wakes up.

PunishedBen posted...

I am going to treat Han as confirmed town going forward just for shutting Lopen down

This feels reasonable.

A lot of that happened in the morning and not having a good feel for the timing of it all kind of blows, but it still probably tracks.

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Ehh, maybe I'm actually good with Ulti here. I don't like when people post in my early morning because I never read them with a clear head.

That was a gross misuse of my clap clap hurray you win phrasing too.

I meant to type 207 in there too but whatever you guys are capable of reading that sequence.

210 and 211 last topic from Ulti look like complete shit on a reread, in fact.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I think ctes and Hb can just die in whatever order. I dont care. Its 50% scum for both, which is good MATH for town.

It did not escape notice that Ulti was the entire vote swing at end of day, of course.

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Thats great. whats the motivation?

Because I'm reading back end of day 1 and currently having a hard time believing hes town.

Effort does not necessarily equal alignment.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Joe has Covid again

To be clear, its probably more apt to say he still has COVID. We've known COVID lingers after negative tests/5 days but we've avoided saying this for reasons.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Direct me to the posts in question :)

The day isn't that long, I pointed it out with death last night. It shouldn't be hard to find.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I would have to review the posts in question.

We've got time.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I think Scum Bus Driver is very possible, but not in a way where Lopen is the Bus Driver.

I hate to say board 8 is in a bad trap where scum never claims anything but their own personal role but...What makes you think hes not the driver?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I hate Death saying this, btw.

Can I ask if you think Death coming in and intentionally pretending to ignore reading the flip is in his scum range?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Are you calling me bad red. I actually did pretty well in kingmaker

I was aware of this I was just trying not to jinx anything honestly. But you are 100% not someone that I think of when I think of someone that could drive discussion hard with king. In this context, the early shot makes sense, though truthfully at the point it was at I was kind of hoping to see more takes in the day.

Not getting a flip sucks too because I kind of suspect scumdriver(Its a rough claim without it) but not seeing it leaves us in the dark just enough to kind of annoy the hell out of me.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Sure, if it was on purpose. Maybe they didn't guess a role right and it became ransom instead. I was just trying to say there isn't much to go by and this is a game that has role madness.

This is just conspiracy territory. Simplest explanation it is not. Putting that on Sultan feels intentional, it almost certainly was. Looking at it beyond that is dumb.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I don't think there's much point speculating why Sultan was given this gun because for all we know, it might not have been on purpose and they might have had to give it to someone, possibly as a punishment for some role stuff. That doesn't seem like much punishment though.

What a dumb statement. We can pretty safely guess why Sultan was chosen for this.

If you are going to choose someone(Optional or not, that is probably hard to guess), Sultan stands out pretty well as bottom tier on this list. You need someone you aren't afraid to confirm town and someone you think has the highest chance of shooting town.

It really isn't that difficult to figure out. You could question if this was forced or not, but why Sultan feels pretty dumb. You are essentially making someone king for 24 hours, it stifles the day hard when you give it to Sultan. (Kingmaker sucks)

looking at it from an ulti is town PoV, I see it as little but a bad attempt to try to draw the scum anti-claim mechanic on him.

Not a particularly great attempt though.

The Lopen claim is undeniably convenient of course. I get it from a scum PoV, though I wouldn't say I necessarily disbelieve it right now.

As for Ulti, I don't know that anyone would actually buy that claim so I don't know what he really thinks hes doing.

htaeD posted...

Lopens claim is also curious anyway as I am not sure how a role that targets two players normally gets ruled when taunted.

Death you didn't read the taunter flip did you.

PunishedBen posted...

Also confused how lopen can come to two of the conclusions that he did

What exactly are you confused about?

PunishedBen posted...

Then yes what's bus driver because it seems to change every game

only by hosts that do subpar things sometimes. Chris wouldn't do that without some sort of addendum.

PunishedBen posted...

So how does this actually work? You make Lea target Red or you swap them out so that if someone visits Lea they visit Red instead?

Are you trying to ask to explain bus driver? I don't feel like this should be something you need to ask.

Also I mostly read the day.

I was dead set on Lopen being scum then I read back the role PM that accounts for multi-target(my immediate instinct was "hey wait taunter doesn't work on bus driver" but I am perfectly capable so I figured I better go read the PM). Now I'm a little more willing to hear this one out.

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Also apparently I was last scum in 2019? Can someone verify this?

I know its been awhile but I'm really not sure how long of a while its actually been. It feels like forever.

I just know its been long enough that I'm genuinely scared of drawing scum right now.

htaeD posted...

On the plus side Lea's posts have been reasonable and good so far and that makes me happy. Townlea is best Lea.

I haven't gotten to full read(And probably wont til somewhere in the last 24 hour period, going work-sleep-work-dead tired-sleep before the last day), but Lea hasn't thought I was scum hard enough. So I am wary of Lea right now.

red xiii

htaeD posted...

Today is a busy day (work, dinner, movie theater trip), should have like 90 % more time tomorrow tho.

So...2 posts instead of 1? That is, if we are rounding up.

Then you realize that if you'd just gone to bed forever earlier you'd have woken up relaxed and cleared it in half the time.

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though i find it slightly dubious claiming NR's like 12 hours later.

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greengravy294 posted...

it was cool but the gimmicks were specifically just kinda not fun

I had fun with them.

greengravy294 posted...

you mean you dont like death note mafia with minigames on zetaboards??????????????????????????????????????

That game had specific gimmicks that worked in a bubble.

No COVID.

Do spend a lot of time in crowded places. So on some level I've been lucky. But also mask diligently in those situations.

MoogleKupo141 posted...

does he think theres really a scenario where the Biden admin is just like whoops, he got us! and they hand him the keys to the house again

He thinks there will be an insurrection and he'll take over the government.

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