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HylianFox posted...

So Canada is taller, younger, and a better jumper?

Checks out.

JimmyFraska posted...

You might think so, but it worked just fine for me without knowing the cartoons. Did it feel even more pivotal for you who did know the backstory? Maybe. But you said devoid of context or importance, that's not true. It felt very important, and they explained as much of the context as they needed to for it to all make sense

Considering you're suggesting throwing out a solid decade of widely-loved backstory and character arcs just to satisfy your craving for a fun fight scene, you'll forgive me for taking your idea of a satisfying level of context with a grain of salt.

JimmyFraska posted...

Yeah, do it. Whatever it takes. Bottom line is I want him in live action like Solo teased

Look dude, if a sensible story really doesn't mean jack shit to you and all you want is flash and cool choreography, there's a bunch of really well made fan films about Maul on YouTube. Just watch those.

I'll just throw out there that your "disregard the cartoon" idea wouldn't even work in-universe, because even now the live action material is dependent on the cartoon.

Ahsoka is a major player in the current canon. Her very presence in the modern series, including her upcoming solo series, is entirely dependent on the events in several of the cartoons. So is Thrawn, who is dependent on both the cartoons and several books worth of canon.

Maul plays an absolutely integral part of Ahsoka's backstory, particularly in regards to the closing events of Clone Wars.

Same goes for Bo Katan Kryze. The Viszla clan. Death Watch. The darksaber. All ENORMOUS factors and players in The Mandalorian, and which exist completely devoid of any context or importance without the cartoon canon.

Bad Batch is dropping hints that it's tied heavily into key aspects of episodes 7-9, and by proxy, the Mandalorian/Grogu.

Everything fits together. It doesn't matter whether the comics are playing fast/loose or not. The shows and movies are NOT.

By just displacing Maul's story, youre not suggesting to throw the cartoons out. You're basically saying to selectively choose bits and pieces of the cartoon to either keep or change, based on what would be "cool to see." Which is going to devolve into a confusing mess extremely quickly.

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or the movies

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uhh...

JimmyFraska posted...

That's nice. But it doesn't mean something should be locked out of being done in live action. A bad habit the current canon has had is discounting several things the "canon" Disney comics do. By and large it seems the filmmakers and showrunners, animated or live, seem to just not read or care about the canon comics that Disney puts out. And I don't think they should have to be beholden to every single detail those comic writers put in. I don't mind it.

Where there's great storytelling potential, sure. The different animated series have proven there's a lot of potential for the character beyond what we received in Phantom Menace.

I just don't care too much about it. I'm glad people enjoy it. It's just not for me though. I only really talk about it in context of people saying something shouldn't be in live action because it was already in animation.

How would me getting the live action content I want invalidate the animated content you've already received?

Because that animated content literally establishes that Maul had no idea where obi wan was, prior to the animation, didnt even know he even survived order 66 prior to Dathomir, and then even kills off the character.

Literally the ONLY way to give you what you want is to write the animation out of the canon. This isnt some "Palpatine actually survived" situation; the story you're asking for would straight up break the story that was already told, by making it impossible. Hence, "invalidate" it.

For better or worse, Disney is trying really, really hard to keep 9ts new canon constant.

They aren't going to start altering their established continuity just because some people think they're too big-boy for the cartoons, and want a different story instead.

You ought to talk to Terminator fans

g0ldie posted...

also, how does it "poison" the first game?

By pretty categorically and unsympathetically rewriting Joel to have been objectively wrong throughout TLoU. Something that the first game went to great lengths to avoid doing. And something it did quite successfully, considering how many people have begun parroting it since the game's launch.

It's retroactively stripped away the moral complexity that gave that conclusion so much punch. Hell, the first game went so far as to pretty un-subtly show that Ellie had a pretty good idea of what happened at the end of the game, and was choosing to reluctantly ignore it, only for the second game to have her SHOCKED and APPALLED that he could have POSSIBLY have done something like that.

Not surprising, coming from people who clearly never grew up.

The main issue is that while TLOU was morally complex, TLOU2 is insultingly simple, while trying to pretend to be more complex than it is.

TLOU deals with humanity, parenthood, attachment. The ending dilemma isn't whether to sacrifice Ellie, but whether to GAMBLE Ellie. After all, there is NO reliable confirmation their cure would have actually worked. And all of this done without the consent of the victim, an innocent girl. It's not just a question of utilitarianism vs moralism, like so many like to pretend. It's about whether preserving our humanity is about fixing the external problem, and saving our society, or protecting the things we cherish the most; the things that differentiate us from the animals. It's about whether our pursuit of either end inherrently invalidates itself. It's about what it means to be the "last of us," and whether or not we WILL be the "last of us" as a result. And the game doesn't insult us by giving us a clear cut answer to the question; everybody and nobody was right.

TLOU2, in contrast, is frighteningly simple. "Revenge is bad, unless you're Joel cause then you deserved it." Its narratively both a downgrade from the prior entry, while simultaneously dragging down what the first entry was trying so hard to present. And retroactively poisoning the prequel is about the worst thing a sequel can do (and something a lot of sequels have been doing for the last 10 years or so).

Billyionaire posted...

Lol is that real @DarkBuster22904

oh yes, it is. Official RotS novelization, from Matthew Stover

From the novelization"

"It would be a mercy to kill him.

He wasn't feeling merciful, today."

I am a fan, and the game looks great.

That said, it's WB, so I'll have to wait and see what the finished product looks like before deciding. There's a good chance there's a lot of shitty business going on under the hood, assuming that the game's not outright broken.

And, after all that... maybe I'll snag a used copy. Definitely not a new one.

Shame Disney isn't willing to spend Avater money to bring places like Felucia to life for more than a few seconds.

Have to rely on the animated shows to showcase the more interesting worlds

I know it's not a movie, but no matter how hard I try, Jackie Chan Adventures comes to mind first

The only problem is that Reginald VelJohnson and James Avery look nothing alike

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Even in states where it IS legal, places still test.

Plenty of places still don't want "users" on staff. To say nothing of federal jobs where, legal in the state or not, you're fucked anyway.

I'll be honest, dude, if it was a one-time use, that long ago, it's INCREDIBLY unlikely anything would even show up on the tests. Urine tests are netter for catching more recent use, while hair follicles are almost exclusively geared toward catching habitual users.

You're neither. You'd be much more likely to fail the polygraph; which is a MUCH more stupid test, because you can fail a polygraph for thousands of reasons, including but not limited to just being anxious about the test.

From didn't want one. And they're free to make the game they want. That's the only reason anyone needs.

By the same token, if they decide to add one, one day, then cool. They are free to make the game however they want.

From games don't need to have an easy mode.
From games don't need to NOT have an easy mode.

Prove that it's not launching from a hotel I'm staying at. Or my vacation home, that I definitely have

If you can't, then piss off, Netflix.

Back_Stabbath posted...

this.. im not saying its right at all, but don't suddenly start caring about these folks specifically because they released the meme game of the month.

By the same token, that company releasing the meme game of the month isn't an excuse to handwave news like this away.

Is it a huge problem industry-wide, or even nation-wide? Sure. That doesn't mean we tell people to stop "suddenly caring" when we learn specific instances. That kind of apathy is BS. Micro-level outrage and calls for action are better than none at all.

That said, I'd be interested to see if there's any verification from more reputable soirces.

HylianFox posted...

The badge colors also correspond with the city names:

Grey Badge = Pewter City
Blue Badge = Cerulean City
Orange Badge = Vermilion City
Pink Badge = Fuchsia City
Gold Badge = Saffron City
Crimson Badge = Cinnabar Island
Green Badge = Viridian City

Again, Rainbow Badge is the odd one out, as you get it in Celadon City (celadon is a pale green/yellow ceramic glaze)

Plus, it would have made much more sense for Erika to be handing out the Green Badge, by virtue of being a grass gym (hell, the badge is shaped like a leaf), whole Giovani gives the Rainbow badge which, by being multicolor, is sort of your "certificate of completion."

But that's just me. Or maybe another coding error. Considering Gen 1 is held together with chewing gum and a dream.

I mean, Dark Souls 2 exists.

You never said it had to be GOOD difficulty.

HylianFox posted...

Because all the Gen 1 badges are named after colors in Japan

Boulder Badge = Grey Badge
Cascade Badge = Blue Badge
Thunder Badge = Orange Badge
Soul Badge = Pink Badge
Marsh Badge = Gold Badge
Volcano Badge = Crimson Badge
Earth Badge = Green Badge

Rainbow Badge is the only one that kept its original name

I mean, you're not wrong, but that doesnt exactly explain why the English names are what they are.

It's not like "souls" are inherrently pink, or anything. And Marshes definitely arent gold. They could have easily given Sabrina the Soulbadge, and Koga... I dunno, the Poisonbadge, if they wanted to keep it in line with the "pink" bit.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

holy shit will you ignorant posters stop with that stupid bullshit. Its not true. Its never been true that they swapped the design. Do some fucking research.

Ah yes, I forgot we were in a serious topic, for serious discussion, of serious matters.

https://youtu.be/l8HInxDeC-o

Why does Metapod evolve into Butterfree, and Venonat evolve into venomoth?

Just saying:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/5/AAOdzqAADCGl.jpg

Difficult to choose.

Atari 2600 - Centipede
Intellivision - Advanced Dungeons and Dragons
NES - Dragon Warrior 3
SNES - Chrono Trigger
Genesis - Shining Force 2
Saturn - Panzer Dragoon Saga
N64 - Pokemon Stadium 2
PS1 - Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Dreamcast - Phantasy Star Online
Gamecube - Super Smash Bros Melee
Xbox - Halo: Combat Evolved
PS2 - Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Wii - Metroid Prime Trilogy
Xbox 360 - Halo: Reach
PS3 - Dark Souls
Wii U - Xenoblade Chronicles X
Xbox One - Rare Replay
PS4 - Persona 5: Royal
Switch - Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition

Gameboy - Pokemon Silver Version
Gameboy Color - Dragon Warrior 3
GBA - Mother 3
Gamegear - Sonic the Hedgehog (yes, I'm well aware of this version's problems)
DS - The World Ends With You
PSP - Persona 3: Portable
3DS - Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor: Overclocked
Vita - Persona 4: Golden

PC - Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Arcade Cabinet - House of the Dead 2

200-400 mg depending on if I take a pre-workout that day

I may grab a physical edition from playasia, if one ever gets made.

Not really a huge fan of the game itself, though. A fine game, but a shit sequel to Trigger.

Maybe a controversial take, but I's put Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories up there.

spikethedevil posted...

Not heard many people mention it as major issue like they do DA2 and its one of peoples biggest reasons for hating on DA2.

The main problem is ME1 had a great narrative and interesting mechanics (save the mako, which gets rightfully roasted) to compensate for its same-y level design, environment structure, and reused areas. It also helps that the re-used areas are most prominent in completely-optional, skippable, side areas.

DA2 has none of those advantages.

Honorable mention to Dark Souls 2.

Classic example of rushing a sequel, with none of the magic. Whenever someone complains that Souls games are just "designed to be difficult, and nothing else," DS2 is what happens when that's actually true

DMC2

Castlevania 2

No. Even barring the events with Rowling and Depp over the last few years, Crimes of Grindelwald was steaming, burning, rotten garbage.

Shame, because I thought the first Fantastic Beasts movie was actually pretty good. Nothing amazing, but perfectly good.

It's UI is abysmal

Gotta say, Duckbear's interpretation for why he was modded is, to say the least, interesting.

To say the most, it would be perjury, if this were a real court

Every mythical post gen 5.

Once they devolved from fun events to "random mailman just gives it to you," they lost so much of their luster.

x_lone_x_wolf_x posted...

I thought I read somewhere he was working on both books 6 and 7 at the same time. So if we get one we'll get the other very soon after.

Just like Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons.

And we all know how well that went

"Gacha"

There's literally no point.

Even IF winds of winter comes out (doubtful), there's absolutely no way Dream of Spring is ever coming before this man dies.

Fuck it.

WingsOfGood posted...

For a regular game it is a bad choice. For a game designed to do this to you, it is expected.

Basically, alot of what makes a soulsborne game a soulsborne game is a bad choice. But if they didn't have those things, it wouldn't be the games that people love.

Sure they would.

This wouldn't be the first time a Soulsborne game gave misleading information on a mechanical level. And it's been fixed, before, and nobody cared. The Ting Being Ring in DS1 infamously had an incorrect description of its ability for YEARS before it was finally updated to say what it actually does.

Sometimes, a flaw is just a flaw.

You have pointed out a legitimate poor design choice in a Soulsborne game.

Prepare to be hammered with an avalanche of comments saying the problem is actually you. Because in soulsborne, design flaws are just "features" that make it more "extreme"

Not yet. But then, I'm running an electric, and haven't been slapped with that bill, yet. Either way, will still be way cheaper than if I was filling up with gas

Never happening.

There's no longer any reason to showcase pokemon in 3D models, now that the games all do that.

And Gamefreak has repeatedly shown they have no interest in interesting/challenging battle formats. They can't even be bothered to keep the Battle Frontier in remakes of games that actually had one.

Pokemon Stadium is as dead as Cubone's mom.

Chrono Trigger
Persona 5
Persona 3
Witcher 3
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

In that order