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| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 7:09:44 PM #177 | AltonBrownFan posted... hockeybub89 posted...Who gives a damn what their endgame is? They're f***ing Nazis. Their endgame doesn't have a prayer in the world in a country like America, especially if we don't suppress them like fascists. so far you have completely abandoned your original argument and contribute only 'what ifs' instesd of a substantive position --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 6:30:53 PM #169 | So why was the National guard called in? Why do you keep ignoring that question? i already addressed it, they were called in to enforce the law. when people violate the law the government is justified in using force, which is completely justified. if neo nazis are violating the civil rights of people it is completely justified for the government to intervene, still not ok for random people to attack others for using words --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 6:18:27 PM #163 | AltonBrownFan posted... andel posted...AltonBrownFan posted...So why did we need the national guard to enforce it? Why do you keep on ignoring that part every time I bring it up? And if society had progressed to the point of civility then why would you need a law to enforce integration in the first place? You keep on skipping over those gaps in your own argument, which only undermines the entire point in the first place. you seem unhinged and incapable of looking at historical precedent without invoking a logical fallacy. you have abandoned the meat of your argument and clung to some weird notion that laws being enforced means the kkk wasnt in fact rendered impotent by society progressing. you have been utterly incapable of making a connection to vigilante acts and the diminishing impact of supremicist groups, while vigilante acts are the actual topic of discussion here. the kkk was absolutely shamed into obscurity in a nonviolent way, this is fact and no amount of cognitive dissonance on your part will change that. violence in response to political views is unacceptable and illegal, it will remain so. you have no argument here --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:53:05 PM #159 | AltonBrownFan posted... So why did we need the national guard to enforce it? Why do you keep on ignoring that part every time I bring it up? And if society had progressed to the point of civility then why would you need a law to enforce integration in the first place? You keep on skipping over those gaps in your own argument, which only undermines the entire point in the first place. the government enforces its laws by threatening force if you dont comply, this is the same for literally every law. that is not violence and certainly does not justify vigilante behavior. your entire argument is a god of the gaps type presentation that remains devoid of any facts. the constant theme here is that the kkk and other scumbag groups have been marginalized legally and without violence against the bad people --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why does soccer exist if hockey takes that concept and makes it SO much better? |
| andel 04/23/17 5:45:11 PM #15 | nah soccer is much more graceful than hockey and features much better athletes --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:32:42 PM #157 | If violence had no part in the decline of their rhetoric then why did we go to war with Nazis? If violence had no part in the decline of white supremacists and the KKK then why did we need a literal civil rights act to enforce integration? And if everything was so hunky dory after forcing integration then why was the national guard required to escort black students to their new classrooms? And if all that played a part in seeing the decline in nazi and white supremacist rhetoric then why do you believe that all it takes for people to move away from those ways of thinking is merely sitting down and talking to them? And if that's all it takes do you believe that it accounts for everyone that espouses those views or do you think a spirited debate will sway only a handful of them? we went to war because the japanese attacked us, which is common knowledge. the civil rights act is a law, a sign of progress and that debate and civility win out at the end of the day. passing a law is the antithesis of violence and vigilante behavior, it is the codification of progress. if you think random assualts against people that hold bad views is effective at changing public perception in favor of progress you honestly have no knowledge of history or how tangible progress is actually achieved. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:15:05 PM #155 | Neoconkers posted... how much of a nazi does someone have to be for it to be alright for someone to punch them? at which point do they cross the line from not punchable to punchable? committing acts of violence is the threshold that makes it ok to attack them back. anything else is legally and morally unacceptable --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:13:58 PM #154 | AltonBrownFan posted... andel posted...AltonBrownFan posted...andel posted... it did decline due to education and debate, yes. it certainly wasn't violence as we have established so your attempt to create a parallel has failed. political violence wasnt acceptable then and obviously not necessary so it clearly isnt now either. you have basically validated my position itt --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:09:44 PM #149 | Kineth posted... andel posted...Kineth posted...andel posted...if they physically engage you that is justification for fighting them, simple words dont and will never justify violence. no. people are responsible for their actions, you cant put it on other people no matter what they say --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:08:59 PM #148 | AltonBrownFan posted... andel posted...AltonBrownFan posted...andel posted... you are being disingenuous with this argument and have provided no evidence beyond your own assertions. no one went out attacking the kkk yet they are universally maligned and have no political capital --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:07:10 PM #145 | Kineth posted... andel posted...if they physically engage you that is justification for fighting them, simple words dont and will never justify violence. people may attack others because of words, it is never justifiable though. if you expose someone high in the government in any state as a neo nazi or kkk member it will end their political career and if they are committing crimes all you have to do is present some evidence and as a society we will be glad to lock them up. this is still no justification for violence --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 5:01:22 PM #140 | AltonBrownFan posted... andel posted...the kkk was shut down because society progressed and they were prosecuted for violence or other crimes they committed. no, but it is justifiable to do it neo nazis violate federal law. the parallel you are trying to paint doesnt exist and violence against people you disagree with is not justified, ever unless they are committing acts of violence --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:57:55 PM #138 | AltonBrownFan posted... Mal_Fet posted...AltonBrownFan posted... no one went out and punched the kkk en masse. that didnt happen, progress happened and people dismissed their antiquated views --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:56:44 PM #137 | if they physically engage you that is justification for fighting them, simple words dont and will never justify violence. AltonBrownFan posted... Mal_Fet posted...AltonBrownFan posted...emblem boy posted... the kkk was shut down because society progressed and they were prosecuted for violence or other crimes they committed. these neo nazis are also bound by the law and will be prosecuted if they commit violent actions as well. this is all that is necessary, attacking them gives them a platform and publicity they would never get otherwise --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:45:26 PM #121 | Kineth posted... andel posted...it is an attempt to silence someone because they say something you dont like. it absolutely legally protects you from violence. that is not debatable in the least. people can protest you from an economic perspective but not one has the right to attack you...not sure if you realize how wrong that statement is in the context you are trying to use it --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:38:51 PM #115 | Kineth posted... andel posted...american history is littered with awful things that were condoned. political violence is against the law because it galvanizes awful people and terrorism is never ok. it is never ok to attack people for words. when they start killing people we can wipe em out, when they are ineffectual nothings frothing with impotent rage we just point and laugh. attacking someone for simply speaking makes you a terrorist it is an attempt to silence someone because they say something you dont like. and yes, free speech protects you from legalized violence no matter what you say as long as you arent blatantly starting a riot. it is never ok to attack someone for words --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:33:00 PM #109 | TheFuzz3451 posted... If you go out into public and start spewing your hateful ideology, I have zero issue with someone retaliating with a nice healthy punch to the face. People shouldn't just have to sit there and take it while someone declares them worthless and worthy of extermination. if people cant handle idiots saying mean things they arent mature enough to be in public --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:29:00 PM #106 | Kineth posted... andel posted...Kineth posted...andel posted...Kineth posted...andel posted...Kineth posted...It's funny that people think protesting is authoritarian, but don't think that codifying laws is anywhere near authoritarian. american history is littered with awful things that were condoned. political violence is against the law because it galvanizes awful people and terrorism is never ok. it is never ok to attack people for words. when they start killing people we can wipe em out, when they are ineffectual nothings frothing with impotent rage we just point and laugh. attacking someone for simply speaking makes you a terrorist --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:24:25 PM #101 | Kineth posted... andel posted...Kineth posted...andel posted...Kineth posted...It's funny that people think protesting is authoritarian, but don't think that codifying laws is anywhere near authoritarian. people itt are condoning political violence...that is pretty obviously what i am attacking. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:19:35 PM #97 | -Gavirulax- posted... Regressives - If you don't agree with punching someone you disagree with you must be a Nazi sympathizer. they seem to be too dumb to understand this --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:19:11 PM #96 | Kineth posted... andel posted...Kineth posted...It's funny that people think protesting is authoritarian, but don't think that codifying laws is anywhere near authoritarian. i encourage protesting, it is the cornerstone of american exceptionalism. i dont condone attacking political opponents though and that is what people itt are doing. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:14:41 PM #92 | MixedMartialArt posted... andel posted...sorry, the opinion of someone unable to shut down nazis doesnt matter and you arent smart enough to ever accumulate any political capital. 'if you dont support political terrorism you are a nazi sympathizer' gg, you lose. try and understand what words mean before talking with the adults --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 4:12:04 PM #90 | Kineth posted... It's funny that people think protesting is authoritarian, but don't think that codifying laws is anywhere near authoritarian. protesting is not authoritarian, attacking people because of politics is --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 3:06:16 PM #57 | Zero_Destroyer posted... MixedMartialArt posted...So we don't punch nazis to placate people dumb enough to sympathize with or be emboldened by them. makes sense. people dumb enough to support violence to silence the opposition are thankfully devoid of any political capital and have no representation is making national or state policy. we should point and laugh at them like we do the alt right and other extremists --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 3:00:36 PM #53 | MixedMartialArt posted... andel posted...wrong, but obviously you support fascism sorry, the opinion of someone unable to shut down nazis doesnt matter and you arent smart enough to ever accumulate any political capital. must suck to be an impotent, low iq fascist like you eh? --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 2:57:52 PM #50 | MixedMartialArt posted... andel posted...MixedMartialArt posted...pinky0926 posted...No, what I want is a world in which the punishment for the horrible stuff you think is not an instant assassination hit squad like what you're advocating. You literally think that we should allow people to instigate physical violence without anything approaching a court of law. We don't even advocate the police being allowed to do that, never mind every citizen on the streets. wrong, but obviously you support fascism --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 2:56:48 PM #48 | SGT_Conti posted... andel posted...The Admiral posted...You're worse than the person spewing hate speech if you assault them purely for their views. Just to be clear on how big of a piece of shit you both are. those people are dumb because that isnt how discourse works in this country. it isnt and will not be legal to physically attack your political opponents --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 2:55:46 PM #46 | MixedMartialArt posted... pinky0926 posted...No, what I want is a world in which the punishment for the horrible stuff you think is not an instant assassination hit squad like what you're advocating. You literally think that we should allow people to instigate physical violence without anything approaching a court of law. We don't even advocate the police being allowed to do that, never mind every citizen on the streets. sorry, you dont get to attack your political opponent, even if they are vile and you have no political capital to end free speech so your opinion is irrelevant --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Why you don't punch a Nazi. |
| andel 04/23/17 2:50:35 PM #43 | The Admiral posted... You're worse than the person spewing hate speech if you assault them purely for their views. Just to be clear on how big of a piece of shit you both are. this. people that try and justify violence because the person assualted is awful are low iq neanderthals and just as fascisy as the people they are trying to silence. you defeat ignorance and hate with arguments, not violence and terrorism --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | imagine being white and not liking spicy food |
| andel 04/22/17 10:39:04 PM #81 | pres_madagascar posted... andel posted...its generally black people that dont like spicy food in my experience yep. other than bland louisiana hot sauce --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Are white people the race that feels the most entitled? |
| andel 04/22/17 10:34:44 PM #38 | Kineth posted... Imagine the delusions of grandeur that come from thinking that people are making fun of you because they're jealous. it is super obvious with you at least. if someone feels the need to make fun of white people as a group it probably means they are projecting and are insecure. sorry you are just an angry black guy that espouses angry rhetoric --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Are white people the race that feels the most entitled? |
| andel 04/22/17 10:10:37 PM #27 | imagine trying to disparage white people out of jealousy lol --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | imagine being white and not liking spicy food |
| andel 04/22/17 9:17:58 PM #66 | its generally black people that dont like spicy food in my experience --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Is cultural appropriation blown out of proportion? |
| andel 04/22/17 9:16:14 PM #19 | it isnt a thing so any outrage over it is snowflake syndrome --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Chechen gay men fear extermination by their region's Islamic government |
| andel 04/21/17 11:11:35 PM #10 | tag --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | So is it really pee? |
| andel 04/21/17 11:01:07 PM #11 | byron posted... rkman427 posted...not always --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | so, my job actually had a 4/21 drug test today lol |
| andel 04/21/17 10:44:11 PM #111 | scoobydoobydont posted... "I have the flu." well we know you aren't anyones boss so your response is impotent at best lol --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | 100% Guaranteed to get 1 million dollars or 50/50 chance to get 150 million? |
| andel 04/21/17 8:23:30 PM #5 | 50/50 shot at 150. i will take a coin flip for a free shot at 150× easily --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | democrats should nominate hickenlooper in 2020 |
| andel 04/21/17 8:06:56 PM #10 | scorpion41 posted... andel posted...scorpion41 posted...I could see the campaign signs now: "I legalized weed." How is that a broad appeal again? actual good jobs dont drug test fyi --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | "there is a problem with islam" |
| andel 04/21/17 5:00:05 PM #178 | mario2000 posted... what's luelinks a place where you shitpost(ed)? --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Has the Admiral ever made a topic about friends or going outside |
| andel 04/21/17 4:51:05 PM #240 | what do you guys think is wrong with rod? obv he is not very smart but he seems deranged too --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | "there is a problem with islam" |
| andel 04/21/17 4:42:31 PM #176 | mario2000 posted... andel posted...The Eternal Flame posted...You're wasting your time, pinky. This guy is too far gone. luelinks obv --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | democrats should nominate hickenlooper in 2020 |
| andel 04/21/17 4:41:42 PM #6 | scorpion41 posted... I could see the campaign signs now: "I legalized weed." How is that a broad appeal again? because 61% of americans support full legalization? p much all of his politics are spot on though. if you don't think many people support legalization it just makes you ignorant tbh --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | democrats should nominate hickenlooper in 2020 |
| andel 04/21/17 4:35:13 PM #3 | his record is sterling and getting away from awful corporatists and empty identity politics panderers is a must --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | "there is a problem with islam" |
| andel 04/21/17 4:33:57 PM #170 | The Eternal Flame posted... You're wasting your time, pinky. This guy is too far gone. the funny thing is that im p sure i have seen him posting racist shit on eti. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | "there is a problem with islam" |
| andel 04/21/17 4:33:13 PM #169 | tc shitposting...he seems to love defending islam and oppression of women and gays wtf --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Dutch police shoot machete-wielding Muslim shouting Allah akbar |
| andel 04/21/17 4:31:37 PM #79 | Kim Kusanagi posted... -Gavirulax- posted...his laughable make belief friend sorry you dont like reality but we dont pander to children like you that defend terrorists --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | democrats should nominate hickenlooper in 2020 |
| andel 04/21/17 4:28:37 PM #1 | he is a solid governor and pretty much well liked by everyone in colorado. it is important to not nominate an awful corporatist like booker if we want to win and this guy has broad appeal --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | Cali Woman who left bacon at Mosque charged with hate crime |
| andel 04/21/17 4:22:46 PM #161 | if the trump sign burning is a hate crime this is too and vice versa --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
| Topic | I got banned from 4chan. Forever |
| andel 04/20/17 11:48:35 PM #9 | how do you even do that --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis |
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