Lurker > Dark Young Link

Yes, and you were the one who brought up antifa into said speculation. Right after saying that the person "wasn't a nazi or a supporter from that side".

You assumed something about a person and passed it off as fact to fit your narrative. Don't try to pull back and make excuses after the fact.
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I should really start merging/sending home more units. I'm at 233/235 right now, and I'm absolutely not using that many units.

I'm a collector, but perhaps I should start sacing ghb units that I'm not using >_>
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....oh lord.
gonna stop my convo for a sec to bring an update on the car stuff.

people saw the licence plate number in a picture provided by dailyprogress.
people looked into the owner of that plate. they found a matching name and similar car from a guy in ohio and from there, his son, who said he'd get the car when he turned 16. that was six years ago.

if it was that kid, then we know who he is. the identity of the car owner is uh... not a nazi.
or even a supporter of that half of the rally.

...he's either an ANTIFA member or supporter.



so there we go, we now have the full range of speculation.
from a guy who's a literal Nazi to ANTIFA.

That's the Wang post Tony is talking about I believe.

I'd give him credit for later admitting that he was talking about the wrong guy...

but then he assumed the first guy was a member of Antifa in the first place without evidence.
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Considering the previous conversation, I found this.... relevant.
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Why not just call them assholes?
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.



Sitting on the sidelines accomplishes nothing.
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Kinglicious posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Kinglicious posted...

they don't look like "Nazis" whatever that means, they look like people who support murder.

So in other words... Nazis.

Nazi is unfortunately vague today, with way too many people called it that don't fit the bill. Supporting murder here is honestly worse because that IS specific for everyone. We know what that means and anyone who supported that attack are pretty much done. You'll see people distance themselves, condemn it, and reject the people who made this sort of thing happen. Others will reevaluate what they want. That's the way things should work.

Except in this situation "Nazi" is being used correctly. Especially when they literally admit to it. This isn't "They disagree with me, so I'm going to call them names". This is literally "They are expressing the exact political viewpoints that the Nazis believed in, which involved murdering millions of people." There's no vagueness in this story.

As for "reevaluation". I don't buy it. I don't see the type of people who would walk down this path as people who are capable of change.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Kinglicious posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Wang...


There is absolutely no way to reasonably present the ideas these filth represent. They want to "get rid of" people who aren't them. This isn't a simple disagreement. This isn't a "both sides have a point" situation. These people are monsters, and whatever happens to them will be too good for them.

If that's how you feel then you should have no problem letting them present themselves as they're guaranteed to fail.

This is the point of difference I think. Many don't share that optimism, especially those who are targets of their oppression

Yep. To me just this seems like "Just ignore them and they'll go away". The same thing people told me when it came to bullying. Except they didn't go away.

It also looks a lot like appeasement to me. As in "Oh don't be so aggressive against them. Everything will turn out okay."

You're essentially saying "Let them continue their hateful actions", and hoping the country condemns them....

When that very same country has done awful things in the name of fear and spite.
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"Refusing to explicitly condemn them" is essentially the same as defending them.

It's like if you saw someone being stabbed to death on the street, and you just walked away without doing anything about it. Maybe saying "What a shame" after their death is reported on the news.

Evil prevails when good men do nothing.
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Kinglicious posted...

they don't look like "Nazis" whatever that means, they look like people who support murder.

So in other words... Nazis.
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Wang...


There is absolutely no way to reasonably present the ideas these filth represent. They want to "get rid of" people who aren't them. This isn't a simple disagreement. This isn't a "both sides have a point" situation. These people are monsters, and whatever happens to them will be too good for them.
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It pains me to admit to this, but I think Seph has the right idea somewhat.


If this guy is the person who did this, execution via lynching seems pretty poetic to me.

It is historically how criminals(and people the wrong shade) were dealt with after all. He gets to be a "confederate" to the very end.
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r/TheDonald has a huge thread telling people to converge to the rally that's 7 days old.
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MenuWars posted...

I just don't get how he hasn't stood up and told them they're not wanted. L

Because Trump only "stands" for one thing.

Himself.
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Apparently there's a new suspect for who the driver is. No outright confirmation yet.
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Get used to it. This is the world we live in now. This is the world the "people" begged for, they're getting nothing but what they asked for.


And with our leader sitting on his ass making weak comments about it all, its' going to continue to happen. Tolerating this shit, is the same as approving of it.
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*Sigh* Ulti..


I'm trying to be polite here but I also imagining smashing my head against a brick wall.


You came into the previous topic, ignorant of what you were talking about, and started attacking a political side. Your response to a riot caused by actual white nationalists was to turn around and attack the left because... I guess a liberal stung you as a child?


My questions to you are....


1. What made you think this was just a "conservative rally" that got unjustly shut down by a hostile left?

2. What exactly has the "other side" in this particular situation done wrong? Do not deflect by bringing up past shit about the media and the left and things that have absolutely nothing to do with this. Because nothing you can bring up will ever justify what is happening on this day.
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Yeah social media is fucking cancerous in this day and age. But fear and ignorance makes a lot more money than any positive attribute it seems.


But in the end, it's because we're not dealing with people. We're dealing with puppets.

Puppets who like and share false info just because it told them to like and share(Read: 60% of the content shared on Facebook)

Puppets who think loyalty is to bend your knee to your "master" at all times, refusing to see any ill in them.

Puppets who believe the "other side" is always in the wrong, because they other side is always wrong.


And all of this is fucking celebrated. This country is going to shit because we refuse to allow it to be anything else.
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Corrik posted...

Nobody truly sides with these people besides true filth. It has no place in our society.

True.

The problem is that there seems to be a lot more filth around these days. The fact that our "president" is so soft spoken when it comes to this doesn't fill me with confidence either.


Like... let's go back to the "all sides" thing. What exactly has the other side(the ones that AREN'T rioting over a fucking statue) done to cause this?
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Part of me is surprised Fox is even admitting this is because of white supremacists.
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People, I mean.
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We're not going to make it, are we?
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But more to the point...


1. Are you suggesting that one cannot speak of a subject unless they know absolutely everything about it? Because we technically shouldn't be talking about anything in these topics. Because there's always going to be a small bit of info we don't have. I mean, none of us are personally at these riots right?

2. "Proper discourse"? I'm not sure about that. Understanding why something happens isn't justifying why something happens. Why were "some" in this topic not taking the course of action? Because people aren't a hivemind. Because the situation you're talking about isn't the same as the situation that's going on right now?

Additionally... I'm not seeing what the overall point is. Seems dangerously close to changing the subject.


3. No but seriously, I feel like you're trying to shift the conversation to something that's currently irrelevant. What are you trying to say exactly?
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Corrik posted...

While a Riot is taking place because supposedly racist cops killed an innocent black man is being "explained" to have happened from desperation. When it in fact turns out that a Black Cop killed a Black man who was refusing to comply to cops orders while in possession of a weapon of deadly force, a gun.

Personally I would say that's more of a result of the actions of the police. They show a man, left him dead on the ground for an extended period of time, then basically clammed up when people wanted to know what happened. It's the lack of transparency that was the boiling of that pot.


It's true that people often comment on things they don't have all the facts of. That doesn't mean someone is trying to justify anything. It doesn't necessarily have to be politically motivated either. Incidentally? The utter silence form the police is what causes shit like that to happen. When you refuse to say anything, when you leave everyone in the dark, people are going to start making their own conclusions.


It's like if your girl is mad at you, and you ask her why. She responds "Why do you think I'm mad?" and refuses to explain herself further. You're naturally going to make your educated guess on what info you have.
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What's cringeworthy about it corrik?
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Man.


Memories....
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Huh, apparently he got suspended.

Though considering some of the trash he posted... *sigh* what happened to him?




Corrik posted...

If you can't remember arguments that charlotte riots were justified because african americans are working from desperation and that beating a white man on video and stealing his car keys was understandable from a cornered aspect of society,

I recall at least one person saying the former. I personally disagreed with it, and I'd like to say the majority of people did as well.

The latter? I don't remember at all.
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Didn't you kind of bring it to the forefront 10 minutes ago? >_>
(Like why bring it up if you don't want it discussed?)
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Well first off, define "BLM riot". How does one tell if it's a riot caused by BLM.... or if it's a riot that just happens to have a lot of black people in it?


Secondly the core message of BLM is "Black people are being killed by cops under suspicious circumstances, and at an alarming rate. We should look into that."


Where as this is just flatout hatred.


Now rioting is never justified. But there is a reason "both sides" has no place in this situation. There is no nuance, no gray area. This is literally because of a goddamned statue. A worthless piece of inanimate material. This isn't about human rights, this isn't about trying to make things better.
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I'm all for "both sides are shit" because in many instances they are.

But in THIS case? No. There are literal neonazis*(Why the fuck else would they be waving their flag?) trying to cause shit. They are 100% in the wrong and their actions should not be tolerated. And the fact that people waving the confederate flag are apparently protesting side by side with them is all too telling.


Exactly what started this again? I heard it was because someone tried to remove a confederate statue or whatever but I never checked the source on that one.


Not surprised Trump is showing such a weak stance on this. People gave Obama shit for not saying the exact words "Radical Islamic Terrorists" but apparently they're fine with Trump not calling out this case of terrorism being committed by so called "Americans".
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If Bruno ever gets in a TT, I hope he isn't as stupidly tanky as Veronica was. She was absolutely crazy if you didn't have a good red. >_>
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*Pulls free orb on TT banner two days ago*
3 greens

*Decides to pull on Nohr Summer banner for a bit.

0 Greens in 4 attempts.


Okay game.
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Random question but... is there a faster version of this theme in this game somewhere?




I've had part of theme(the first 20 seconds roughly) stuck in my head since yesterday, I feel like I've heard it on a map before....
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Most people here probably do Lunatic 7/7, but for those doing the new normal versions only have to spend 15 Stamina instead of 20 it seems.


Also I seriously need to either switch off Drag Back on Gray or learn to prepare for it >_>
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It's a shame Heroes Fest only lasts 7 days. Knowing my luck, I don't see myself getting too much out of it.

But at least we get 4 orbs a day for a while! <3
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4* Palla. No one else needs Moonbow at the moment, but it's nice to have in reserve.
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When I was by myself.
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Nope. Xander blocked me. Something I was afraid of, Green has a lot of undesirable 5* greens that can get in the way of a green you want. I suppose it's better than something like a fucking Merric.



Also I believe the Heroes Fest banner is out tomorrow? Hope I get Elise in time to pull on that. I haven't card pulled on red in ages.
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<_<

(It's been an exhausting week)
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Looking at the top players in Arena Assault. Man.

I see a +10 Sakura. I wonder if it's that Sakura fan or just another player...

A +10 Lucius and Mist of all things as well.


(My personal favorite is the +10 Summer Elise. If only I had that cash/luck)
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Not every dumb thing in the world is the fault of "liberals".


Oh why do I even bother? People don't post this stuff to have actual conversation.
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*Sees Summer Corrin visit castle*

"Sorry to show up in a swimsuit, but"


You... you don't need to apologize for that Corrin. Trust me.
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No idea. I haven't brought any items with me yet.

And yeah I know what you mean! Way back when I was content with Nino + Reinhardt + Dancer + whoever but now I nee more flexibility. Not that those units are weak by any means, but not having a Plan B really sucked.

Things are a bit better now with S.Robin, and Lukas for blue(And I have a Nowi in training) along with S.Tiki(And soon S.Xander) in green. Also thankful to have a usable Red that isn't freaking Roy, because Nino really isn't the character you want to give the job of killing Hector to(And my Roy tended to not to much outside of killing greens)


Still quite a ways to go but that's the life when you don't have hundreds to burn on a whim right? :P
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Hrm.


Decided to pull on a whim. Got Summer Xander. Not the green I was looking for. Pulled the red and got a 4* Cain which means I get to WoM someone.

Then I made the mistake of pulling colorless because "My pity rate is gone anyway" and got the trash I deserved(Well at least I have a Gordin now). >_>


The good news is that apparently +Def -Res is actually good for him? Well that's a unit to train up on Friday I suppose.



Forgive me Elise T_T
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So in case someone hasn't already found this out via the FEH board or Reddit...


There's a rather easy way to farm items in Arena Assault. Start the first round in easy mode with a single unit. After that, you should only have to fight one person per round in easy. Your score wont' be very high obviously, but you'll get 3 items easy.
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4* Gwendolyn from the free Tempest Trial pull. +hp - Att so ...

Eh, don't have much use for her skills atm. Zephiel already has Hone Armor.


Oh? It appears we have Arena Assault quests now. Maybe we'll even get orbs on weekends or something?
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AzN_ShAd0w
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Well Katarina was a huge help. Though even +Res left her at freaking 5 hp after the Lilian hit, so I think without TA she would have been finished off by Cecelia. 4* Klein was strong enough to kill the flier, the red mage, and to finish off the cav(Rein couldn't 1 shot because LOL inflated stats).

Glad to use Katarina again, and now she has some skills instead of having a bunch of blank spots. ^^


Burned a fair amount of feathers though. But hey, that's what Voter Gauntlet was for :P
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Of all the skills I thought would be the one to save me, I didn't think Drag Back would be it(granted Hit and Run would do the same thing for me in this particular case). Now I just need to figure out how I'm going to be Infernal Mode and I'll be done with the Bound Hero Battle. Well I've got 6 days for that at least.


Flubbin said he got Kat to tank both bosses at once. I have a +Res one that needs some love so maybe I'll try that(Though I can only give her TA2).
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