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The Admiral posted...

"Why won't Trump denounce these white supremacists!!"

"Okay, he denounced them, but why did it take so long!!"

Mmmm smell that well aged post
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Ilishe posted...

Antifar posted...

Ilishe posted...

But you can't tell me everyone mistreated their labourers.

By virtue of being enslaved, they were mistreated.

Yeah okay.

In some shithole backwards cannibalistic society they had freedom to get eaten. Or dying of the flu still stuck in the stone age.

In America they were eventually allowed to integrate into society fully and become regular citizens. The first few generations suffered but their descendants have it way, way better today.

People becoming indentured servants in America had a very similar experience.

You tell me what's better.

shut the fuck up
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Its just embarrassing seeing some milquetoast like thomp storm into these topics and try act like an authority on things.

Also v cringe that he constantly paints himself as a neutral observer when he always without fail falls on the right wing side of things or contrives to make some laboured 'both sides are just as bad!' point
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thompsontalker7 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

thompsontalker7 posted...

ITT: People who couldn't even get a 2 in an AP history exam

I got a 4 dawg

US history or something else

My point is, anyone who got a 4 on an AP exam (not exclusively you) knows that Robert E Lee didn't join the Confederates because "but-but mah slaves", nor was the Civil War initiated because of it

Seriously stop posting in these topics.
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all those gangbangers in the ghetto

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well i mean given the amount of outraged people who think hitting a nazi makes you as bad as a nazi then yeah sure.

Regardless of how flippant that point was, though, r&m has never ever suggested that it's a conservative show
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smdh
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BillyKidd posted...

yea, they aren't that good at it. I had a small group on my facebook feed trying to whine about Trump and the whole "stop violence on many sides". I said fine, drop labels and let's look at what happened. Here's what I put:

how about we take out labels, call them A and B.
A's show up to hang at a monument on a hill.
Multiple B's show up and proceed to pepper spray A's. They bring out water balloons and water bottles filled with paint, piss, and shit and throw them at A. They throw smoke bombs at A.
Police allow B to do this for almost an hour.
1 A decides to pick up one of the smoke bombs and throws it back at B.
Police then deem that a cause to make A's walk through a crowd of B's and leave.
B's then taunt, continue to throw shit at A's, push, and punch A's causing fights to break out.
1 sole A drives their car into a group of B's.
Yea, there were "many sides"

Once I took away the identity politics and made them see both sides, the debate stopped.

Lmfao the utter state of you
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Being the party of minorities and of the 'white working classes' should not be mutually exclusive and i would question the motivations of anybody who suggests otherwise
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thompsontalker7 posted...

Identity politics can be a decent cause to advocate.

The problem with liberals is that's ALL they want to advocate.

Please stop posting about politics
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its like how self confessed centrists often argue hitting a nazi makes you as bad as them. The enforcement of the gamefaqs tos basically views calling a nazi out as being worse than expressing nazi viewpoints with a veil of faux civility.
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Thing is, they're upping the gore and nihilism presumably in order to completely 'deconstruct' rick at some point in the future rather than just for thr sake of it...and the contrived way theyve gone about it has made it a lot worse than just throwing together zany ideas imo
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Im torn here because i think this season has been way too on the nose in its attempts to deal with 'serious' subject matter and yet at the same time i am CRINGING at all the man children blaming 'sjws' for it.


Like they literally beat up nazis in a previous season; what made you think it was ever not a '''''sjw''''' show
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the lack of masking up shows either (a) extreme naivety or (b) extreme arrogance in believing that they are untouchable.
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thompsontalker7 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

thompsontalker7 posted...

Liberals seriously expect Trump to denounce a large (vocal) part of his voter base

Yes, liberals expect Trump to denounce motherfucking actual-ass Nazis. How terrible. Calm down libbie hippies!

I don't need all of that cheek, thanks.

The over generalized response from Trump is about the same response Obama gave towards all the various riots and protests while he was in office too. The point is that this is pretty much a standard reaction at this point.

Let's say he does go out and condemn the instigators specifically. Does that really change anything besides pissing them off? It's certainly changing nothing for liberals.

another 'both sides are as bad as each other!!!' cop out post full to the brim with the emptiest of rhetoric from thomp
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boobs
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hopefully many more bricks in the same direction
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really wish centrists would stop trying to coronate some illusory 'leader of the free world!!!' figure to live out their west wing fantasies
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oh okay then.


p disappointed 3 people thought I was asking about the origins of the term though.......
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i mean why did rebel put leftist in quotation marks, as if to imply self described ones are not, in fact, leftists at all.
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RebelElite791 posted...

calls themselves "leftists,"

why "leftists".
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thompsontalker7 posted...

This whole thing is why I feel there's no winning with either side. Liberals seriously expect Trump to denounce a large (vocal) part of his voter base, while conservatives are going "no u" when the blame game comes in.

Can everyone just chill tf out for a while

shut the fuck up

your political 'analysis' is so fucking facile and cringeworthy, like indeed all of your posts.
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thompsontalker7 posted...

Stfu

Emilia Clarke is *exasperated emoji* *ok hand emoji*

Anyone who hates Dany's overconfident character probably doesn't realize that all the cringe is intentional

cringe
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p funny that self confessed centrists, the dudes whose entire ideology is essentially 'both sides are as bad as each other!' are now criticising somebody for saying that though.
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trump rn:

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its p funny
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

The writing this season so far has been pretty subpar compared to the unregulated absurdity in the first two seasons.

This was one monologue that lasted all of 20 seconds entirely ignored by Rick who spent most of the episode as a pickle collecting parts of roaches and rats to give himself mobility and go kill a bunch of Russians

Seems like this topic is being nitpicky just for the sake of being nitpicky. This isn't the first episode where Rick or any of his family have been under the microscope for a brief amount of time. There was a divorce of course they would spend time talking about the effects

it's not just the monologue though, although that is a neat microcosm of the issue.

as I noted in my earlier posts and here:
prettyprincess posted...

they definitely seem to be utilizing more on the nose character monologues and nothing has been as subtle or clever as say the Roy game or dreamcepting the dog away from repeating human treatment of pets or countless other moments I enjoy it for
and even in that episode the whispers of 'loser' don't evoke as much patheticness as something like a Jerry daycare setpiece

the issue is that they've gone from subtly working these characterisations into the episodes to uhhhh having a new character drop in and spell them out to the audience. it's very jarring for a show that used to juggle things so gracefully.
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prettyprincess posted...

that said, the previews for last episode had me worried it would buy into its own hype too much and rely on the inherent meme-y nature of the callbacks, and I was glad to see it more character driven than that and thought the resolution was good
I am excited to see them do more with that and hope that this proves to be a transitional phase of showing the characters coming to terms with accepting each other's nature

this is true too and I imagine if they went fully meme crazy and deferential to the often annoying rabid fanbase then I would be complaining about it too.

I am more than happy to see how things pan out though and I will definitely be watching the rest of the season keenly. as you say, hopefully the pay off is good and the very on the nose stuff currently is setting that up.

the clip for the rest and ricklaxation ep doesn't fill me with confidence, though...

Gheb posted...

prettyprincess posted...

they definitely seem to be utilizing more on the nose character monologues

That's Harmon going full Harmon. The therapist monologue in the last episode was as Harmon as you could get.

i've heard people say this but honestly I have no great experience with his work!
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I kinda feel like this is something that people will be chastised for criticising too, because it'll be seen as criticising supposedly 'deep' character arcs in favour of unhinged lunacy of previous seasons.

like there's a 50+ post topic elsewhere on CE where people are discussing what characters are 'bad' people and idk, I don't feel like S1 and 2 ever intended for things to be that intricately analysed. Yet it seems like they've almost bought into that now and are trying to work in more elaborate character arcs as a result.
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like i feel like this entire season is going to keep circling the idea of peeling back the layers on Rick or w/e until it reaches some sort of major breakthrough but like...why?

why does it need a really shoehorned in monologue from a psychiatrist that is probably meant to represent one of the creators talking to himself anyway.

i feel the whole thing is an attempt at trying to make more 'serious' television using the medium of R&M but it just seems really awkward currently.

the 'emotional' parts in previous seasons of r&m worked because they were self contained; things like Rick pointing a laser at himself but it missing at the last moment, or Jerry and Beth seeing a vision of their alternate realities worked because they were so tactfully done but also isolated in their own episode. they would have been all the worse if they involved a tacked on monologue 'explaining' the people involved or if they dragged the arc out over a whole season.

like just do the fun, chaotic, off the cuff stuff you're used to and the emotional punch will follow from that. just seems like they're forcing it a lot this season.
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lol remember when you'd get dudes being all "why would I want to look at a MAN'S ASS for a whole game!?!?!?!"


really suspect stuff
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