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Vengeful_KBM posted...

##Vote: Death

Not only does Death feel like a better choice to lynch right now, to me, but I also trust VI and Han more than I do the people on VI's lynch, so we have that.

lazy vote is lazy
and so far the worst
KBM, probably scum
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I see I am coming back to a fine mess

let me see whats there to respond to

When you get back, can you answer that same question for Chris and Leo?

I think I made it pretty clear that I was growing to like Leo at that time, and also that I felt Chris was behaving differently from this previous game and that his absences were at least warned about
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Death, since you're still around, what did you think of Nana around the time of Stan's claim?

I recall liking Nana
cant immediately remember why tho

anyway I am gone now, ciao
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

right now I feel I should be mastering dodging more
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

missed this

And for the last time, I wasn't "making things up".

well you did earlier use the wording 'I made it up'

I mean I get your argument, but dont forget what else you said
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

oh I figured, and it works well on the bigger blokes
aggression just didnt seem like the best idea for the bonfire mobs
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

well I did say that vote was mostly pressure to get Scare to show up and wouldnt be on him if a (more) scummy person showed up

unless its Brohan, I dont expect a player to just stop talking alltogether
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I like to think VI isnt the kind of guy who uses a hit and run as a cover
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

eh
a few times I only died because I got impatient
Numbers seems to be my biggest problem
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

also if you were being serious thats even worse Han
of all the reasons to make you snap and vote me, the quote thing is the silliest

No... I don't think we're talking about the same thing right now.

what are we talking about then?

I am talking about the post iuth your vote in it
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My Immortal posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Dowolf is a bit soft but someone saying 'doctor' is usually an okay reason to stop voting them!

Yeah, but Scare saying he was at the doctor accounted for what, 2 hours of the day?

he also said 'wife' tho
and frankly I only kept backing off because Scare wasnt back yet and because FFD also looked bad and had no excuses given
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I will be back before deadline though, obviously
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

also if you were being serious thats even worse Han
of all the reasons to make you snap and vote me, the quote thing is the silliest
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

yeah bought a ton of vials and upgraded once
then explored the sewers, the rats are ugly but okay in small numbers
and the tall guys I just hack at quickly to make them drop

Madmans Knowledge gained, and promptly swallowed
now what to level up with the Plain Doll? (she's tall too, everyone is)
I can do it about 3 times
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

well, I am going to see Wonderwoman soon
was hoping to not have to claim today, selfish I know

and yeah thats not a good look for VI
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

that reminds me that I asked Han about that too
Han, did I miss your reponse?
when I asked you whether or not you were joking when you voted me (and were voting me for other reasons)
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Furthermore, Han indicates that "following others who have posted, this is a bad list", and I'd like him to clarify what he means by that.

Aside from puns, nobody had said anything at all about me until, in very quick succession, Chris, red, MI, you.

Chris's statement was bad because it relies on him not reading the game, red's statement parroted Chris's, MI's actually had sense behind it, and then yours came completely out of nowhere. That's why it looks so bad. Like you're trying to sneakily hop aboard a train of suspicion on someone who is Town without giving any clear explanation.

eh I made some mentions about you day1
could have sworn other players did too

unless you meant today

btw forgive me if I sound distracted
playing a bit of Bloodborne on the side
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

but I finally get your point now
so be glad I feel a little embarassed it took me that long
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

Han. A puns lynch would lead to clarity about the end of day1.

No duh?

I said puns was a waste of time today. Where did I say I didn't want to lynch him? Go back and check my posts, I fully expect to end today with my vote on him. It would just be useless to keep my vote there for the whole day when I've already finished all the prodding I've done to him, especially when deadline is still ways away.

well I beg your pardon
but the first sentence kinda seems like it wouldnt lead to the second
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

Unless you think it's a better use of time to just put my vote on the guy and sit around all day. But see, in not doing that, I've gotten your weak defense of him, so hey, Scumhunting at work.

no
you sit around all day with a vote on me instead!

and you flatter yourself
I would have given my opinion on Puns regardless of what you did
hell, VI has been far more inquisitive in my opinion.. at least about me

you just seem to already refuse any outcome but me being scum
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

very well

not like I can use the echoes for much else right now
(and I am damn certain I will die to the boss, or those wolves in front of it)
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

(this is what happens when I dont tag the new topic... ehrm, you responded in the old one first!)

Han. A puns lynch would lead to clarity about the end of day1. And also possibly a dead scum. I am still half/half on whether or not Puns could be scum.

Mostly though, I was just feeling petty since you kept attacking me. And I also thought more people would want puns dead today, so it is surprising that so few votes gathered
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I was just saying you were wrong about votes on Puns being useless because the votals came right after your post

also the way you say 'solidify' doesnt sound like a town thing to say
more like you just want to find things you can use against me, instead of still assuming I could be town
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

thank god, a shortcut right behind the lamp
who knew I could just avoid

got around 4600 souls now and I think I know where to find the first boss
but I could also check out the sewers like someone suggested

btw, fortifying starter weapons
yay or nay?
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

Okay
got the guy
almost of of vials, glad he dropped two of them
then found the shortcut behind the jolly (old?) ladies, because I dont feel like tangling with wolves
caged up dogs though, I am fine with that

also found the path through the house with the wheelchair guy, hope I am getting somewhere because I feel lost at times
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

someone explain to me how sneaking works, because that guy at the gate hears me whenever I get close no matter how slow I walk
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

and then there were two of them
all of my progress
gone

there's gotta be a shortcut here somewhere
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

Okay I can get past the first mob, if I take it methodically
but then there's an area with a big guy banging on the door and I am not sure how to proceed without alerting him
Or am I supposed to sneak attack him?
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

nah its helping me, MI
Dowolf is a tough issue
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I did say it didnt come off well that he only talked about not wanting Puns or FFDs lynch after the lynch already happened

and your second point is not unvalid. Especially, as I posited, if he knew his scummates were waiting to jump on Puns or FFD

he might also have guessed that Puns would jump to FFD eventually to save himself

still, it seems it'd give him more notoriery than its worth
he could have just stuck to Puns or FFD
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I am not explaining it well
Its not that he answered the questions, its that he showed me that I had a few things wrong (like how much votes were still on Dowolf)

also justification from scum will not/can not always give good justifications
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I'd be tempted to just shoot Puns and get some answers out of that, or even Dowolf

but you asked for reckless so..
the player I want dead the most... hmm
right now, Shad probably
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I did think Nana looked awful yesterday
but since he voted Puns, I wasnt sure yet if that made him scum
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I wouldnt say I am the biggest supporter of dowolf being town
but my suspicion of him deflated a lot when he answered my points about him and also that he bothered to unvote when he was technically still close to being a lynchleader (I didnt realize that he missed Puns vote on FFD)

my gut still feels like he's the most likely to be scum out of the three leaders, but I dont have anything else to base that on
maybe the fact that he didnt make clear he liked FFD as town, until after FFD was dead
thats not a good look
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

Leo3L posted...

"Oh"

##Unvote

htaeD posted...

##Unvote

eugh

dowolf posted...

##Unvote

don't have time to do much more than that right now.

Jeff Zero posted...

##Unvote

*mumbles something about still being proud of his stupid video*

fair is fair, I didnt say much immediately

but I think the unvotes speak for themselves really
Jeffzero even asked questions first, if Stan could be lying
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

red13n posted...

But 4 people, just drop off the lynch, not even make so much as a comment? It was still pretty far from the deadline too.

was there no comment?
I am sure I did say something
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

speaking of players on me
I really dont like the underhanded comments Han sometimes makes

like that post I just quoted, I want to know why he felt Puns was a waste of time
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

yeah I already had the hunters mark I think
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I just got that song out of my head
nooooo
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

allthough with VI
maybe he just looks more active to me because I am his only target mostly
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

oh I should probably actually read that massive Chrispost
the fact that he's willing to let go off Puns doesnt remind me of his previous scumplay
back when he hounded me in Puns game, he made sure to be furious
here he seems more composed, feels more genuine
hmmm

So unless he is bringing that A+ scum game he doesn't actually possess, death is probably fine.

my B- game was enough to fool a lot of people last game tho!
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

red13n posted...

5) HanOfTheNekos
10) MajinZidane
11) My_Immortal
15) Shaduln
17) VeryInsane

This kind of got sorted for me in chris' list but...just sorting off of that. This group of 5 has felt very very much in the background this game. I don't like that.

eh I'd say VI has at least been open about his wants
his wants include my death so I cant agree with him, but I feel he's caring
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Shad, puns is a waste of time right now vote Death.

nice try lying Han, votals immediately shut that up didnt it?
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

and this..

Pandering to Chris.

Chris was asking me to ask him questions
so I did.
and convenient how you didnt talk about all the times I mentioned suspicion of Chris

seriously those few issues are enough to make me your number 2 suspect?
thats so weak
like you know I am already under attack by someone else and you;re trying to look good by making up your own reasons for not trusting me. reasons that dont make sense

-I feel like death used the first 4 pages just to justify his vote on dowolf.

how vague
I only talked so much about dowolf because people, including dowolf, talked back to me and made me see things I didnt before
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

Shaduln posted...

htaeD posted...

also Dowolf voting Jeff is just lol

Why?

htaeD posted...

and if Puns is town, all reads are messed up
sure Puns claimed nilla and FFD could be anything, but thats not a strong reason for scum to favor FFD's lynch over Puns (to make Dowolf or Leo do crazy stuff as scum for instance)

You seem pretty sure Puns is scum here but...

htaeD posted...

now though, my gut feels more for dowolf as scum and puns as a second town, and also that scum probably had an easier time voting FFD then Puns, so I expect more of them on FFDs lynch

Such a quick turnaround.

1. because Jeff was obvtown to me for a while now. partially because of his youtube video, but I found it near laughable that dowolf tried to start something with Jeff

2/3. Uhm... No? In that second post I am already considering Puns as town, heck you seemed to have missed an earlier post where I said the same. quick turnaround my ass
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I and others already suggested that maybe Scare's role just couldnt vote twice on the same player (and also had to have one vote down already)
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

put me down for FFD/Puns as both town for now, reasoning I gave already
but it boils down to gutfeelings, and me seeing not a lot of people jumped on FFD (or Dowolf) to save Puns quickly, for Puns to be scum

but I will look back (tomorrow, tired today) at your arguments for the former
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

I think an extra shot would usually be something that could already shoot through power

also hey now, I only 1/7th murdered him
though to be honest, I probably wouldnt have moved my vote if I had been there...
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Now speaking of role meta, I wouldn't be THE MOST SURPRISED if ninja cop didn't matter and scum didn't have any sort of role that indicates movement, but that town does have one and it is just meant to punish the town for metaing.

Be careful.

I can see that
not like it makes much of a difference to assume scum has that kind of power
(okay maybe being a psychic would make a difference)
and there is even less of a point to predict it
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3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice

and puns still tried to screw with heads with his roles from last game
(and it didnt have flavor anyway)

and good enough explanation, Chris
just wish the shot didnt wind up being so convenient for scum

I am assuming you would have voted Puns, if you could have been there
continuing on, whats your take on the FFD lynch? and the Dowolf lynch that started but didnt go all the way
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