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Capn Circus posted...

tldr: So, in a nutshell, it's not so much as Trump "banning" or "stopping" the behavior---but more of a realization and cultural shift that may occur.

Realizations and shifts: Trump's approval rating has steadily dropped since he took office.
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Nomadic View posted...

If you want to effectuate change you have to behave like an adult and articulate your argument using facts, logic, statistics, critical thinking, and analysis.

Meanwhile, the president
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Capn Circus posted...

Have you forgotten all of the leftist activism that was rampant under Obama's presidency? BLM? Plenty of protests there before Trump even announced he was running.

Yes, and they did not just pop up in a vaccuum without history.
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REMercsChamp posted...

>Didn't want him elected
>Voted him in president

A majority of those who voted did not want him elected, judging by the fact that they did not vote for him.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-Te0iRUAAALB1i.jpg
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It doesn't say all that much about the population, only like 26% voted for him.
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Are you in like a Kiss tribute band, or
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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/25/workers-involved-in-union-activities-say-tesla-is-illegally-intimidating-them.html

Tesla is once again facing allegations that it's working to quash a union drive at its factory in Fremont, California.

Last week, the United Automobile Workers union filed four separate charges with the National Labor Relations Board alleging that the company has illegally surveilled and coerced workers attempting to distribute information about the union drive.

The charges, copies of which were obtained by BuzzFeed News, specifically make reference to an event on Feb. 10 in which Tesla allegedly intimidated three employees who were "passing out literature regarding their union organizing efforts, working conditions, the confidentiality agreement, and their rights under the NLRA." On March 23, the charge alleges, Tesla broke the law by "instructing employees they were not allowed to pass out any literature unless it was pre-approved by the employer."

In an emailed statement, Tesla said it is "aware of the filing of unfair labor practice allegations" but "believes the [unfair labor practice] allegations are entirely without merit." The company said it plans to respond "as part of the NLRB process."

News of the UAW's efforts to unionize Tesla's plant broke in February, when Tesla employee Jose Moran published a blog post on Medium citing long hours, repeated stress injuries, and less-than-competitive pay among reasons why Tesla employees should join a union.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk immediately hit back, first accusing Moran of being a union plant and then writing an email to employees in which he argued that the union would be bad for working conditions, and promised to install both a roller coaster and free frozen yogurt machines throughout the facility.

The union's charges aren't the first formal accusation against Tesla for stymying open communication among its employees. In February, a group of California lawmakers warned Tesla that the confidentiality agreement it requires workers to sign is overbroad, a fact that "has resulted in a chilling effect on workers' ability to engage in protected activity," they said in a letter.

That agreement, according to a copy obtained by the blog Teslarati, bars workers from sharing information about Tesla products, communicating with the media about Tesla, posting photos or videos taken inside Tesla facilities online, and writing "about your work in any social media, blog, or book."

More recently, over 60 labor groups signed a letter criticizing the confidentiality agreement and taking Musk to task for creating a work environment in which some workers feel their right to discuss union activities has been stifled.

"You can't fix problems if you're not allowed to talk about them," said Tesla employee Michael Sanchez in an email forwarded by the communications team representing the union. "The confidentiality agreement we were required to sign went too far. We should have the right to distribute information to our co-workers without intimidation."

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Well damn, that was a more in-depth answer than I expected. Thank you.
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lol, I posted this gif yesterday
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hell yeah
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I regularly visit CE, man.
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The kerfuffle started over a report that was not true:
https://www.thenation.com/article/why-was-heath-mello-thrown-under-the-bus/

 Instead, on April 19, The Wall Street Journal ran a story noting that Mello, a practicing Catholic, is pro-life. The story also falsely claimed that Mello had co-sponsored a bill “requiring women to look at an ultrasound image of their fetus before receiving an abortion.” A similar error was made by The Washington Post, which claimed that Mello had “previously backed a bill requiring ultrasounds for women considering abortions,” and then again the following day by David Nir, political director of Daily Kos, who announced the site was withdrawing its endorsement of Mello—a move applauded by Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, who’d launched a 12-part Twitter storm linking to the WSJ article and accusing Sanders and Perez of kicking off their tour with the message “shame women; we’ll support u anyway.”

Here’s the truth about Mello’s record: Back in 2009, he co-sponsored a bill requiring a physician performing an abortion to tell a woman that an ultrasound is available (as most already did). It neither mandated that the ultrasound be performed nor, if performed, that it actually be viewed by the woman—although it did require abortion providers to position the screen in such a way that the ultrasound was easily viewable. Daily Kos member Nova Land—a Tennessean who had never heard of Mello before the controversy—posted a comprehensive, well-sourced correction to this effect the same day. That didn’t lead Nir to reconsider. Nor did it stop Perez from issuing a statement announcing that he “fundamentally disagree[s] with Heath Mello’s personal beliefs about women’s reproductive health,” which was worded in a way that appeared to cast doubt on the sincerity of Mello’s pledge that he “would never do anything to restrict access to reproductive health care.”

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https://twitter.com/StuntBirdArmy/status/857013422248120320/photo/1
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Well yeah that's not accurate
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All the conspiracy theories about the government are true, except about Britney Spears instead.
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ShiningFetus posted...

What's the difference between Redpill and CE?

CE used to be okay
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shockthemonkey posted...

Darmik posted...

Is this anything unusual for public figures? I mean I hear stories about celebs getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to DJ at a party a lot. Tbh I'd go to a Ba-rock Obama concert so maybe he should do that instead.

This is completely normal but apparently people are too busy being crazy to notice.

It is normal: should it be? Should we hold our public officials to higher standards?
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Asherlee10 posted...

Was that the catalyst? I guess I thought it was the "emails."

The election was close enough that just about anything could be considered the "straw that broke the camel's back." I think her Wall Street speeches and unwillingness to be transparent with the public when called on them certainly contributed to her loss.
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I'm not sure that this is what Mark Facebook envisioned when he invented Facebook live
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GregShmedley posted...

This is what I've been looking for
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Clinton has been collecting big money from all corners of the Earth including dirty mounds for the best part of 40 years

Right; what I'm saying is "had she not done that, she would be president."
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Hmmm

Pink Floyd - The Wall
Van Halen - Van Halen
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Pronounced...

Subject to change if I bother thinking about it any longer; I can't make decisions like this
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She's very nice
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Balrog0 posted...

although actually, I guess I'm unclear here what the policy change would be since school employees children already get preferential treatment

The matter here is that, as I read it, there would now be preferential treatment for the employees of companies that donate to schools, not just employees of the school itself
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Hey
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"Why won't women sleep with me?" is the plaintive cry of the virile, manly alt-right.
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Kim Kusanagi posted...

the EC ran by a bunch of apes decided they wanted to see the world end,

The EC responded to the votes of people in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, who weirdly didn't think Hillary was out for their best interests
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I think it would do more damage to the democrats if they went "Our official position is we don't want to earn money when it's offered."

If Hillary Clinton had done that, she'd be president.
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His brain has been rotted by a half decade of cable news consumption.
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QuantumScript posted...

Fact of the matter is that renewables are already on the path to eliminate fossil fuels thanks to the free market.

Meanwhile:
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/323447-carbon-dioxide-levels-in-atmosphere-hit-new-high
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/10/co2-levels-make-largest-recorded-annual-leap-noaa-data-shows

The current path is much too long if we are serious about averting the worst effects of climate change:

The annual Global Carbon Budget report, published Monday in the "Earth System Science Data" journal, has concluded that emissions from burning fossil fuels have virtually flatlined for three years in a row.
The report was released to coincide with UN talks on climate change in Marrakesh, Morocco, where nearly 200 countries are taking part.

Carbon dioxide emissions were set to rise just 0.2 percent in 2016 from 2015 levels. "This could be the turning point we have hoped for," said David Reay, professor of carbon management at the University of Edinburgh, in a statement.

Researchers involved with the report were happy that carbon emissions had leveled off while the economy saw strong growth. China, the world's most populous nation and biggest greenhouse gas polluter, helped keep emission levels in check with a reduced use of coal. Chinese emissions were on track to fall 0.5 percent this year.

Emissions in the US, the world's second-highest greenhouse gas emitter, were projected to fall 1.7 percent in 2016, also due to a decrease in coal production.

"This is a great help for tackling climate change but it is not enough," said research leader Corinne Le Quere of the University of East Anglia.

In order for the world to limit average global warming to 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) over pre-Industrial Revolution levels, the study found emissions must do more than level off. The report also pointed out that greenhouse gas emissions in emerging economies continued to rise.

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QuantumScript posted...

How do you reconcile your insistence that you favor the lower and middle class, with your belief that a carbon tax is worth the cost?

Lower and middle class Americans are already being forced out of their homes by rising sea levels.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-usa-displacement-idUSKCN0WJ34D

If we do not cease our use of fossil fuels in the very near future, the problems caused by increased global warming will fall harshest on the working class, not just in the U.S. but internationally. I believe that these effects would be far more harmful in the long term than the various issues facing a switch from fossil fuels to renewable energy.
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I don't think it's taught us anything we didn't already know: It's hard to go it alone, capital and other outside forces will undermine the left at every available opportunity (a regular theme in Latin America, I'm afraid), reliance on a single resource is problematic in multiple ways, and the confluence of these obstacles makes anything approaching utopia (or even just lasting success) difficult, nearing impossible in what was already a poor country.
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I recognize that global warming will disproportionately impact the poor in this country and those in developing countries, and that a tax on carbon, as an incentive to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels and hasten the switch to renewable energy, is a better price to pay than climate catastrophe. It also strikes me as eminently fair for those who cause the problem to help pay for the solution.
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I'm sure it's been done
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https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/america-is-regressing-into-a-developing-nation-for-most-people#.WP6LcMi1Mng.twitter

In a new book, The Vanishing Middle Class: Prejudice and Power in a Dual Economy, Peter Temin, Professor Emeritus of Economics at MIT, draws a portrait of the new reality in a way that is frighteningly, indelibly clear: America is not one country anymore. It is becoming two, each with vastly different resources, expectations, and fates.

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The richest large economy in the world, says Temin, is coming to have an economic and political structure more like a developing nation. We have entered a phase of regression, and one of the easiest ways to see it is in our infrastructure: our roads and bridges look more like those in Thailand or Venezuela than the Netherlands or Japan. But it goes far deeper than that, which is why Temin uses a famous economic model created to understand developing nations to describe how far inequality has progressed in the United States. The model is the work of West Indian economist W. Arthur Lewis, the only person of African descent to win a Nobel Prize in economics. For the first time, this model is applied with systematic precision to the U.S.

The result is profoundly disturbing.

In the Lewis model of a dual economy, much of the low-wage sector has little influence over public policy. Check. The high-income sector will keep wages down in the other sector to provide cheap labor for its businesses. Check. Social control is used to keep the low-wage sector from challenging the policies favored by the high-income sector. Mass incarceration - check. The primary goal of the richest members of the high-income sector is to lower taxes. Check. Social and economic mobility is low. Check.

In the developing countries Lewis studied, people try to move from the low-wage sector to the affluent sector by transplanting from rural areas to the city to get a job. Occasionally it works; often it doesn’t. Temin says that today in the U.S., the ticket out is education, which is difficult for two reasons: you have to spend money over a long period of time, and the [Finance, Tech, and Electronics] sector is making those expenditures more and more costly by defunding public schools and making policies that increase student debt burdens.
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The dual economy didn’t happen overnight, says Temin. The story started just a couple of years after the ’67 Summer of Love. Around 1970, the productivity of workers began to get divided from their wages. Corporate attorney and later Supreme Court Justice Lewis Powell galvanized the business community to lobby vigorously for its interests. Johnson’s War on Poverty was replaced by Nixon’s War on Drugs, which sectioned off many members of the low-wage sector, disproportionately black, into prisons. Politicians increasingly influenced by the FTE sector turned from public-spirited universalism to free-market individualism. As money-driven politics accelerated (a phenomenon explained by the Investment Theory of Politics, as Temin explains), leaders of the FTE sector became increasingly emboldened to ignore the needs of members of the low-wage sector, or even to actively work against them.

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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

Jabodie posted...

What's the backside?

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hockeybub89 posted...

The show sucks, but someone was never on the left in the first place if any number of dumb shows makes them give up their values.

"On the one hand, I support a woman's right to choose, believe global warming is man-made, And think welfare should exist. But on the other, those god. damn. celebrities make me so angry."
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Yes, and the fact that in your mind Barack Obama falls into the same category is very, very funny.
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Antifar posted...

I'm not sure we should be catering Netflix's lineup to the political tastes of Redditors who see "(((SJWs)))" behind everything.

Are you literally defending this garbage?

I'm not even watching it. But I don't think it or a dozen Netflix shows like it is going alter anyone's political views.
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Lightsasori posted...

He was better when he was tearing apart creationist arguments. But no, he decided to get political.

Is this sarcasm?
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I'm not sure we should be catering Netflix's lineup to the political tastes of Redditors who see "(((SJWs)))" behind everything.
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QuantumScript posted...

Venezuela's government isn't a leftist government, etc.

I haven't said this.
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toptopmax posted...

Shouldn't Democrats drop the whole gun control thing? It became almost unwinnable in 2014.

I personally am more lenient on gun control than Democrats, but something like 80% supported their push for background checks. That was stopped by Republicans, not the public.

Sorry, it was 90%: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-poll-idUSBRE9160LW20130207
Also, clear majorities for an assault weapons ban:

A majority of those surveyed supported stricter national gun control laws, Quinnipiac said. Fifty-six percent were for a ban on the sale of assault weapons, and the same percentage supported a ban on the sale of high-capacity magazines, defined as those holding more than 10 rounds.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/americans-back-immigration-and-trade-at-record-levels-1493092861

Overly simple metaphor: Trump is doing for these issues what Obama did for gun sales
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Solidarity.
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Asherlee10 posted...

What's the TL;DR Antifar?

This shit gives credence to critics on the left and (more pressingly) the right who say that Obama and the establishment politics he represents have sold out to corporate interests. Even if you assume pure intentions on the part of Obama, Clinton, etc., their willingness to hobknob with these sorts of people is bad optics that undermines their agenda and efforts to implement it.
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Like, why can't Bill Nye just talk and present facts like a normal ****ing adult instead of interjecting his cringe-tastic "humor" into every other sentence.

That's, like, his thing.

He made science shows for kids; humor is his shtick.
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http://uproxx.com/technology/reddit-red-pill-founder/

lol
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"The rich, as well as the poor, are prohibited from sleeping under bridges."
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