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You don't need to agree with them, and you may think a lot of these reasons are dumb, but there's a lot of valuable feedback that the Democratic party can pull from here for their next election.

Which they won't, of course.

What lasting effects do you know of from any of those guys?

People on Monday November the 4th, 2024: Ignore the polls, Harris will win comfortably.

As bad as the 2 party system is, it does create this effect where when things are bad, you just vote for "the other guy" without thinking.

I actually know a few "conservative lesbians" in that sort of vein. They aren't super loud about any anti-trans stuff though, but I'm fairly sure they were Trump voters all the same.

They know why. They don't want to say it because they don't want to make it loud but the "she's for they/them not you" ads hit particularly hard culturally and, for lesbians, personally. There's a nuance to it: they know that if they were told growing up "you're actually a man," they may have believed it. They've seen dating apps, including those for lesbians, increasingly have males as the majority and when they voice their complaints get told they're a bigot. Lesbian bars are borderline extinct and more queer bars now, which isn't what people went for. Generally they'll still be supportive of trans rights and that you can live how you want to, however spaces that are specifically female, not just "women" but explicitly female, need to be respected more and we've gone too far.

But voicing any of that gets them called a turf, a transphobe, etc so they'll just do it quietly. If they aren't telling you it's because they aren't comfortable enough to tell you.

I think it was objectively a huge fumble to say she wouldnt make a single decision different than the historically unpopular President, regardless of what the economic numbers said.

Why listen to the details of someone who tells you that your problems aren't real?

Something tell me that becoming the actual president of the US will not make his target smaller.

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people literally didn't know what they were voting for and expected to be rewarded for it.

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Those were illegal immigrants.

Maybe you don't live in a state that have to deal with them but I do. They got bussed to MA and we had to spend 1 billion to house and feed them this year. I'm not thrilled with thousands of illegals coming through everyday and eating through our budget and stressing our social safety nets that should be used to care for our own disadvantaged citizens.

She tried to fearmonger people into thinking minorities will get put into concentration camps. People are too busy trying to make a living to notice any of that. Like why would wage slaves ever be locked up?

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look at this shit. pathetic. fucking losers.

Uneducated middle-aged white guys ruining it for everybody.

Then make him an R.

That should be the lesson from Trumpism. Just run in the party that you're most likely to win, regardless of your policies.

Pete was in charge of Transportation during the East Palestine disaster and all the Boeing mishaps and barely did shit about them Buttigieg would get fucking curbstomped

Jimmy Carter 2028

has worked a real job that nobody can deny ("No, she wasn't ACTUALLY a bartender, yeah let's see them argue that).

I dont believe there will ever be a Republican woman President. Republicans hate women so theyll never let one rule over them

And that's why they will be forever alone. I would never date a Trump voter. And most of my friends wouldn't either. They can wallow in their male loneliness epidemic for the rest of their lives.

Yes, how was your answer in response to that at all? I literally laid out the average voter worried about the economy, and what they were aware of and what they were being told. And then you said "Yeah but I bet they voted because they liked silly reality TV host man" which is absurdly reductive, unhelpful, and irrelevant.

If you're the average voter and completely out of touch with both reality and the policies of both candidates,

Brother I didn't ask you shit.

Sure, we all know this but if you're the average voter who is being told "No things aren't THAT bad now and you aren't paying that much more" and the other option is saying she's going to keep doing what the other guy is doing that you're already not happy with, do you stick with that side, or do you go with the guy who might actually make a change and has actually said he wants to make a change?

I don't know if you realize it yet or not, but I think being former president elect is a bigger deal than being a washed up reality TV star. We're not in 2016 still.

These are the wrong conclusions to draw about why the average voter voted the way they did and it is not helpful.

Sure, we all know this but if you're the average voter who is being told "No things aren't THAT bad now and you aren't paying that much more" and the other option is saying she's going to keep doing what the other guy is doing that you're already not happy with, do you stick with that side, or do you go with the guy who might actually make a change and has actually said he wants to make a change?

Messaging is important and, like usual, democrat messaging sucks.

I hope we can live in this utopia one day.

One being better doesn't mean it's good. Getting a D is better than an F, but it's still bad.

True, but so are democrats.

Like a wise political analyst once said about predicting elections: "It's the economy, stupid!"

How ? Biden has been letting Israel wipe them off the map for over a year, and now the same is happening in Lebanon. At this point Trump can just be an improvement for those people.

Prop 36 is terrible as previously discussed. It is a return to mandatory minimums for petty shit. It is a bafflingly incorrect way to attempt to solve a problem.

Are you living in a dimension where MAGA is respectful to liberals?

Harris' campaign wasn't perfect, but it was very solid. The blame for this vastly lies with the voters.

No, the play is to still hold elections but heavily rig the system in their favor beforehand.

id say more sexist than racist but ya

Ultimaterializer is probably worth blocking as well.

Kamikaze seems to be upset and also lets others dictate his life. Do not take it out on me. I recommend you calm down.

Pure confidence from the chuds.

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