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Oh s***

Robb's dead, Catelyn's dead (I actually was surprised, I only knew that Robb was going to die here). F***ing Walder Frey, dressing crossbowmen as s***ty musicians, and playing Tywin's song, The Rains of Castamere. He apparently also got rid of (killed, probably) all the Freys that might have some reason to warn Robb of his impending doom. Should have listened to Grey Wind! He clearly knew something was going on. I guess the Northmen that killed the Smalljon were Bolton's? Or maybe Karstarks? I'm sure that'll be cleared up eventually, though probably not soon without a PoV character to find out. Really the most chilling part of the whole incident, though, was how Catelyn killed Walder's mentally disabled son. That was pure revenge; nothing could be gained, and Jinglebell was (as far as I can tell) completely innocent, besides having the misfortune to be born a Frey. That's basically like killing Hodor. We knew Walder was pure scum, but Catelyn? Damn.

Then there's Arya, and it looks like The Hound is going get here the hell out of there. Where to though?

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Yeah I've heard about that stuff (well someone suggested in the general topic that Ned might not be Jon's father, and I could guess the parents from there). Then later it was confirmed to me that my guess was the consensus guess. It makes a lot of sense with what I've read so far.

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Ah okay, I was definitely not clear on that distinction; I thought the Others converted the dead into more of themselves.

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Sam: Zombie Small Paul comes back to try and kill Sam; the dagger doesn't work for some reason, and he is saved by ravens and then some mysterious dude with a black hand. I'm not sure if they were implying he was an Other or what, though I don't think we've seen talking Others outside of the House of the Undying.

Arya: The Hound is returning Arya to the Twins to get her ransom. Interesting.

Jon: Jon makes it back to the wall, and learns what has befallen the Watch and Winterfell. He doesn't seem too happy about it.

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Dany: Dany wins another battle with her slave army, freeing Yunkai. How the hell is she feeding these people? Anyway, Daario Naharis joins her. I remember his name being on the casting list for season 3, so I guess he's important. She also gets really pissed off at Jorah.

Arya: Apparently Beric's squire is Edric Dayne, lord of Starfall. That's pretty cool. Supposedly, Ned was involved with Ashara Dayne back in the day. Huh. The old dwarf lady says that Balon Greyjoy is dead, and flips the f*** out when she sees Arya, saying that she has the stench of death. I'm sure many of the Brotherhood have killed more people than Arya; maybe it's because of the coin? I remember that Dany mentioned the phrase "valar morghulis" was something related to death in Valyrian. Then Arya runs away and gets captured by The Hound.

Jaime: In which Jaime is haunted by the ghosts of the Kingsguard, and then goes back to rescue Brienne from a bear. F*** yeah Jaime Lannister!

Catelyn: Balon is confirmed dead, and Robb plans to make Jon Snow his heir. He's also sending Catelyn off to Seagard.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Oops
New predictions for leads:
1. Maisie Williams
2. Peter Dinklage
3. Alfie Allen
4. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
5. Lena Headey

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I'm generally really bad with wikis. I always fool myself into thinking I can read just check one thing to fill in a few details, and then inevitably I end up reading more than I meant to.

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Tyrion: Oberyn Martell, eh? He seems to have something up his sleeve, and apparently he won't be sated by The Mountain's blood alone. It also appears that Cersei's hated Tyrion since he was born.

Arya: Septon Utt's dead; the pedophile (or did he just kill little boys? Not clear on that) won't be missed. More interestingly. we learn that Thoros is behind Beric's multiple lives, and The Hound doesn't seem to be done with The Brotherhood yet. Seems to me that he's going to go on a quest of redemption, even if he doesn't know it yet himself.

Bran: Apparently Hodor is basically an animal and Bran can control him. Cool?

Jon: I am getting really tired of Ygritte. Every other sentence she says is "you know nothing, Jon Snow," which is just super lame. On the plus side, thanks to Summer Jon's finally free of these losers.

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Read a few more chapters.

Davos: Leeches, huh? I guess the magic's supposed to kill the three remaining kings? We'll see how that works out.

Jaime: Now this was an interesting chapter. Jaime tells a bit more of his time as a member of Aerys' Kingsguard; apparently he planned to burn the city to the ground rather than lose to Tywin. Guess that explains those wildfire stores Tyrion found! Then we have Roose Bolton, as cold and calculating as I expected. He plans to send Jaime back to Tywin to save himself, and to hand Brienne over to Hoat. Something tells me that Jaime will stop this despite how bad an idea it would be. Also, I noticed that Bolton's squire or whatever was apparently was betrothed to Arya. I didn't notice this in the last book, but I do remember her telling the kid that his princess could die for all she cared. Interesting detail there.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

King's Landing: So now Tywin's back, and he's brought the Tyrells with him. The Queen of Thorns is certainly interesting, though I don't know what her plan is now that Sansa can't marry her grandson. Tywin is a huge dick (if he doesn't give Casterly Rock to Tyrion, who's it supposed to go to?), but unlike Joffrey he's evil in such a way that you can still like him. I'm really curious as to what Tywin will do if/when he finds out about Cersei/Jaime; he's clearly a man quite fond of his reputation. On the other hand, Tywin being back in charge means that Tyrion's powers have diminished; he's going to have to build his way back up, and with a much more dangerous person than Cersei to catch his mistakes. Then there's the matter of the marriage; I don't really know what to say about that. I'm glad Tyrion didn't go through with the consummation, as I can't really imagine how awkward a scene that would be to read. Then there's Cersei's possible wedding; can't imagine Jaime will be too happy about that.

Catelyn: Okay, so Robb married Jeyne (I just recently found out that the character in the show is actually different; weird. I guess I just didn't catch her name for a while), and this has apparently pissed off the Freys. Meanwhile, Roose lost a ton of footmen sending them off to Duskendale (I don't really get this; my impression was that Bolton was supposed to be smart, if perhaps less trustworthy than he's letting on), and the Tyrells, Martells, and maybe even Arryns (if Littlefinger is successful) are joining the Lannisters. Things look bad for Robb. Meanwhile, Hoster Tully is dead, and Edmure doesn't seem like the most reliable guy. (Don't read the following unless you're done with this book:) So I've been spoiled to the main thing that's about to go down. None of the details, just the main plot point. I don't want to discuss it now, but if I am less surprised than you might expect come the next Catelyn chapter, that is why. In that light, Edmure marrying a Frey seems especially ill advised.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

RyokIes posted...

hey i'm ooooon

page 492

pretty decent book so far. kinda cool how jaime is actually a sympathetic character in this one while i hated him in the first

Oh man so close

Arya: Arya is fantastic. She is (with the possible exception of Tyrion) my favorite living character in the books at the moment, and now she is in involved with the character I was most excited to learn about in this book, Beric Dondarrion. Arya is fast becoming a dangerous character to cross; in book one we saw her accidentally kill a stable boy, and in book two we saw her progress to killing people through Jaqen (imagine how different things would have been if she had picked an important name like Tywin Lannister!) to killing a guard she had no specific hatred for at the end of the book (kinda disappointed they cut that from the show by the way). I can only imagine what she'll do in ASoS, and I wouldn't want to cross her once she grows up. The rage she felt for Sandor Clegane is palpable, and it sets up a really interesting dilemma for the reader, who can now understand and perhaps empathize with both characters (which was not true at the time Sandor killed Mycah). I really loved that scene; The Hound could beat almost any man in a fair fight, but the fire is doing psychological damage a normal weapon never could. Even though Arya can see the terror in his eyes, though, she is unrelenting; he's on the list, he killed her friend, he needs to die. Beric makes the scene though, rising from the grave to respond to Arya's "You just go to hell!": "He has."

Beric and Thoros are the other reason I am interested in the plot, as mentioned above. I confess I had already heard about Beric's ability to defy death, and I had already wanted to know of his quest since he was first sent to bring the King's Justice to The Mountain at the behest of Ned Stark. This was amplified in book two when we see from The Tickler that the Brotherhood has been a serious thorn in the side of the Lannister army. It really makes you wonder how this could be; Beric went off with not much more than 100 men, and they had reportedly been crushed by Gregor. I'm not sure what gives Dondarrion his powers, but I do know this: I want to know more. Then there's the matter of Thoros: I knew he was a red priest like Melisandre, but from the descriptions given he didn't seem particularly devout. Now we find, though, that he's apparently converted the entire Brotherhood without Banners to the religion. From what we know of Melisandre this seems like it could be a bad thing; just what's going on here?

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Bran: This storyline has been pretty boring, mostly because basically nothing has happened. The one interesting thing was the story about the tournament at Harrenhal. This is one of the things I spoiled myself on (specifically a description to actual character conversion list). For some reason I had thought the king in question actually was Harren; things were much more interesting after I saw the list. Oops.

Dany: slaves, huh. I definitely saw the plan coming as soon as Dany said she was willing to part with a dragon, though I don't know how she plans to feed an army. Jorah/Dany is pretty creepy when you consider the age difference, even if that sort of stuff is not super rare in ASoIaF. I want to know what the deal with Whitebeard is; not much else to say here though.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Right now I'm a little less than 500 pages through ASoS (I'm at the beginning of Davos's chapter on page 488 for "don't spoil things beyond this point" purposes), and I felt like summarizing a few of my thoughts on the book so far. I'm also kind of hoping that as I go along this might help me get a few small questions answered without me constantly making the mistake that is visiting the SoIaF wiki that has burned me so many times. That said, here are my thoughts on the plots so far:

The Wall: I do not like the wildlings; the only one that really seems at all likeable so far is Tormund. I also don't really like Mance so far. I guess I was expecting him to be a bit less of a dick. I am more interested in Sam's story, if only because the Others are much more interesting antagonists. I also was really not expecting that Mormont would be killed by Watch members. I'm hoping Tywin's plot to instate Janos Slynt as Lord Commander doesn't go through; he's a good super-slimy character, but I don't think he has the potential to be a solid antagonist in a position of that much authority. At the same time, I'm assuming something will come of that (Chekov's gun and all).

Jaime: This is a pretty cool storyline. As expected, Jaime Lannister is a much more complicated character than he might appear to the casual observer. Everyone reviles him as an oathbreaker for killing Aerys, while really it was probably his finest hour. I've really enjoyed his introspection (and the "flashbacks," for lack of a better term, to the days when he first joined the Kingsguard). I've also been pleasantly surprised by his protection of Brienne from the Brave Companions. While at his core Jaime just wants to be free to pursue his passions (read: Cersei), it turns out he isn't completely selfish. In fact, he even surprises himself. I was most surprised when Hoat had that random Dothraki cut off his hand though. I think I actually like this development, because it sets up Jaime as a character that will have to solve his problems through means other than brute force, which I think will aid in his character development.

Davos: Not much has happened here, beyond the main revelation that he's still alive. Makes sense though; we need a PoV character to give us insight into the world of Stannis Baratheon. I like Davos and his purpose (Melisandre is pretty clearly bad news), but I don't think he'll hit his full potential until he fully realizes that if he wants to save Stannis, he's going to have to get him to give up on being king. I don't see any way for Stannis to succeed without destroying himself.

I'll do a few more writeups to this point in a bit.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Lead Actors:
1. Maisie Williams
2. Peter Dinklage
3. Michelle Fairley
4. Alfie Allen
5. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau

Supporting Actors:
1. Charles Dance
2. Conleth Hill
3. Jack Gleeson

I am definitely unsure of a few of my decisions about whether you consider a character main or supporting cast.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

TheConductorSix posted...

2. How do you NOT believe in the Drogo/Khaleesi relationship? It's the most believable one on the show. Their passion for each other was friggin tangible after awhile. They were perfect for each other and they both knew it.

I guess I just can't really imagine a thirteen year old girl sold to a warlord would ever come to genuinely love him in a non-Stockholm sense. Like, I see this culture that rapes and slaves everything they come across, and I'm supposed to believe that their leader is this genuinely good husband? That doesn't seem very likely, so it seems a bit contrived. I'm also really not a fan of barbarian-like characters in general, so I was probably biased against the Dothraki from the get go.

Pretty much agreeing with the placements so far, by the way.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

I'm curious based on the inclusion of Matthos, who pretty much didn't do anything: what's the relevance cutoff for being included/excluded from the list?

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Speaking of Jaqen, I don't remember him mentioning that he was a Faceless Man when he gave Arya the coin in the books.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Am I the only one that never cared for Drogo? I wasn't very excited to see him again, and I think I big part of that was that I never really "bought" that whole relationship.

Also giving Syrio and Eddard as examples and then not including them in the list makes me sad :(

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

I actually didn't really like the episode. Maybe it's because I just caught up in the books to where the show is, but I didn't like a lot of the changes they made, particularly to the House of the Undying. No prophecies and no Others? Lame. I'm also really hoping it was actually Ramsay that sacked Winterfell and not the iron islanders.

Another thing: why was like half the episode from the beginning of book 3? They're already splitting it into two seasons, so I don't really see the need to do that...

I did love the Jaqen/Arya scene though.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Was I the only one that didn't really care for Buffy's mom? Like, she was always pretty annoying. The episode was still kind of sad, but more in an "I'm sad for the living characters" way than an "I actually care that she's dead" kind of way.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

(3)Arrested Development, "Afternoon Delight"
(2)The Simpsons, "You Only Move Twice"

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

CycloRaptor posted...

i don't mind ads if i am, for example, watching a show on hulu or something so that the creators of that show are getting ad revenue.

but if i am watching a random youtube clip, i am not sitting through a goddamn ad.

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

52 is the best

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Toddnesssssssss posted...

In addition the Lantern will now emit light of all the colors of the rainbow.

I bet you think you're joking

little do you know

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

They chose the Green Lantern with kids to turn gay?

Should have picked Guy Gardner tbqh

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Finished Clash of Kings (and just in time!)

F***ing Boltons. Wonder how they're going to deal with that in the show? Both of those things (Roose taking Harrenhal and Ramsay sacking Winterfell) seem pretty important. I guess they could still do them, but without "Reek" or Vargo Hoat to set them up I can't see them doing it in a non-contrived manner.

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

It's a Homestuck reference

Doesn't really work without the context

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

(1)Community, "Modern Warfare"

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Okay yeah that's pretty stupid

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

5000 pages!!!
(Well technically not but close enough)

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

The edges aren't flat?

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

9.5
9.4
10

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

(6)24, "Day 3: 6:00 A.M.-7:00 A.M."
(2)Lost, "The Constant"

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

RX7InfinitiIII posted...

To be serious, though, I will not be voting in the presidential election, because I happen to be one of 600,000 American citizens, all living within 5 miles of the president, who legally may not vote on who that president should be.

I'm a little bitter about it.


RX7

DC counts for the presidential election, they just don't get real Congresspeople

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I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Robb Stark

King in the North, baby

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Oh yah go my Dante

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

House's Head

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Some info's come out about characters to be added in season 3 (just names and brief descriptions, but I guess it still may be spoilers):

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-throne-season-3-cast/

Glad the Tullys and Reeds were finally added. I'm also super excited to learn more about Dondarrion.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Oh yeah go my Hawk

Being angry and hawkish is totally grounds for an interesting superhero right

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

NewerShadow posted...

From: LordoftheMorons | Posted: 5/29/2012 12:35:16 AM | #245

Oh man Erza setting up a 100 point lead

Unless they have more weird challenges like that, doesn't that ensure FT victory? Though I guess we're going to be interrupted by Arcadios at some point so it WON'T MATTER ANYWAY

Depending on how points are awarded to the rest of the teams, they could be as high as second since the winner of the challenge should only get 10 points. Still 14 behind Raven Tail! Personally I don't think the Fire Emblem plot will get in the way until the very last day, but yeah, the results aren't going to matter anyway.

Oh I was reading it as FT actually getting 100 points on the scoreboard, not the points only determining the order, but I guess that would make more sense.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Oh man Erza setting up a 100 point lead

Unless they have more weird challenges like that, doesn't that ensure FT victory? Though I guess we're going to be interrupted by Arcadios at some point so it WON'T MATTER ANYWAY

I should really catch up on one piece anime at some point, I think I'm like 15-20 episodes behind (and probably 3-4 on FT). Along with finishing A Clash of Kings, it's looking like a busy week ahead before I have to start my summer research!

Btw ctes you should definitely watch FMA Brotherhood, it's pretty awesome. I never could really get into Cowboy Bebop myself (though I only watched like 3 episodes so I probably didn't give it a fair chance), but everyone else seems to think it's pretty excellent so that may be a good plan as well.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Obama

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

*abstain*
Game of Thrones, "Baelor"

Can't remember early-mid House well enough to vote in the first match.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Holllllly s***

Why did Ser Meryn (or was it Boros?) attack Tyrion? Did I miss something?

Wasn't expecting to see Loras there; guess his number one priority is avenging Renly, regardless of who he has to help. With Tywin in King's Landing as well, this seems like a prime opportunity for Robb to strike.

The Hound scenes were excellent. We've seen his character slowly reveal itself over the course of the past two seasons; apparently being asked to walk through the fire (so to speak) is what finally causes him to cease putting up with Joffrey's s*** and do what he must.

Also that Rains of Castamere... haunting, especially at the end.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Don't know about religion, but I can't remember ever feeling a political topic was particularly constructive.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Don't know, aren't lordships typically inherited? I'm not sure why I picked this name, and I kind of regret it now. I think it had something to do with Lord of the Rings.

Why no Batman in the pull?

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

Oh hey a discussion topic

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

I find Ayuyu pretty entertaining, but in a "I'm sure glad I'm not this guy" kind of way.

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE

I imagine it being silvery-white

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No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga
I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE