Lurker > Mr Lasastryke

Personally I kept facepalming at people buying into his HOPECHANGE.

There wasn't necessarily a reason to assume Obama wasn't going to implement HOPECHANGE.

To the modern America that is used to being coddled at every step of their life, yes, it does seem extreme

It's really not, though

Yes, it is. Talking to a person is a non-extreme way to teach them something. Screwing up their life is extreme.

LMAO pro-abortion people.

Excellent pro-life argument you have there.

How old is she?

I wasn't attributing it to you

Who were you attributing it to, then? Pretty sure nobody was accusing pro-lifers of cancelling Hitler's abortion.

Instead, let's teach that 14-year-old girl that life's problems can easily be abortioned away so that she can continue to make the same mistakes and never face the consequences of things until they're really severe. Mmhm.

Screwing up someone's life just to teach them that "life's problems" should be faced seems extreme.

Adoption's always viable and just as emotionally scarring as an abortion, IMO.

Pretty sure adoption is not always viable.

Also, overpopulation is already a threat.

You know how many potential lives you're wasting when you touch yourself?

Horny boys more like mass murderers

So either a 14 year old girl gets an abortion and potentially leads a normal life, or she gets a child which horribly screws up the life of both her and the child.

Clearly the latter option is superior because RESPONSIBILITY

Who did he mean?

Paerarru. He had just arrived on the board at the time and got into a huge abortion argument (naturally, he was pro-life) Shake's referring to. In literally every post he made there he would call someone a "parrot." He was pretty bad, but not memorable enough to be on a "top 3 worst users ever" list, I reckon.

Who exactly decides these universal rights that society apparently has and doesn't have?

Society has a right to determine for itself when it is necessary to change its longstanding institutions.

Society also has the right to reestablish slavery, while we're at it.

I don't dislike Muffin. I'll admit that wasn't always the case, but I've grown to like the guy a lot more. I don't care that we're never going to agree on anything politics-related ever, but what I still find annoying about him is that he seems to refuse to listen to good arguments. In debates he'll often ignore good points made against him - he claims this is because he's regularly arguing with 20 people at once and doesn't have time to respond to everything, but I'm skeptical about this. Not nearly all the Muffin arguments I've read had that many people arguing with him. He refuses to watch a 30-second Noam Chomsky clip, but expects us to watch two-hour videos from conservative theorists. That kind of thing.

SephyG isn't a poor man's Muffin. Muffin definitely believes everything he says, while Sephy just takes whatever political position seems to be the most unpopular on the board to troll people.

Also, I don't recall what was so horrible about Super Saiyan Gnome >_>

I saw it as a kid. Liked it then, no idea what I'd think about it now.

He has literally said that Muse is Radiohead without all the crap.

He meant to say Radiohead is Muse without being crap.

zing

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Glenn Beck declared that Paul "sounds a lot like Osama Bin Laden"

...are you still a "huge fan" now?

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It's fairly insulting to question someone's statement of facts. It's the same as accusing them of lying.

Not necessarily - it could also be accusing someone of misremembering.

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Expected "Montana."

Was disappointed.

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uh smurf is the one who has been and will always continue to ignore any legitimate criticism that is directed his way, that is why all of his lists have always been and will always continue to be trash

Ignoring a couple of WTF-choices like omegaman, I'm very lenient on a list like this, because, like yo said, there's always going to be bias and there simply isn't a superuser on the board who's been here since '02 and has extensive knowledge of all the subgroups that have ever been here. From what I've seen the "legitimate criticism" is basically a bunch of users saying "this isn't how I would've done this list," and their opinions aren't more valid than Smurf's. Just because half the board thinks HM should be in the top 5 doesn't mean they're more objectively right than Smurf is.

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There is the distinct possibility that you might not be going to college anywhere near your parents.

Not denying this, I was just asking for clarification.

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So you work as many hours as you can get and it barely covers rent, and use the rest of your time doing school stuff.

Couldn't you just live with your parents? Living with my parents is basically the reason I'm still able to afford a university education >_>

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I thought we where all Ulti?

No, that's Steal This Account.

(whoa cheekyboys sighting)

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For a second I thought you were talking about Black Out Band's "Video Games."

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I'm curious how non-believers-in-Ulti define "good posts" and "bad posts."

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Not believing in God isn't a choice for me, really. I couldn't believe in Him if I tried.

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I don't see "would you allow humans marrying animals as well?" as slippery slope - that's a question to understand what the position of the person precisely is. Slippery slope is "you think gay marriage is right, therefore you have to believe human-animal marriage is right."

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It's highly reasonable to think that if we allow socialism now, communism will follow later.

I don't see how that's reasonable at all. That's like saying if we allow capitalism now, anarchy will follow later.

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I guess it depends on how you define "slippery slope." If you define it as an argument that inherently lacks any credible evidence or logical reasoning, then yeah, I guess they'd all be inherently wrong. But most people don't actually seem to use it that way. Pretty much every time I post anything where I claim that X leads to Y, a bunch of trolls show up and think that yelling SLIPPERY SLOPE somehow automatically means that I'm wrong.

Yeah, that doesn't mean using slippery slope is a good way to argue, that just means the people you argue with don't know what slippery slope is. Slippery slope isn't "giving the government more power leads to the US being worse off." Slippery slope is "if you believe in socialism you must believe in communism."

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No

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Sess.

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http://www.fhm.com/imgs/631/400/0/original/Full201006071037154583339_Katy_Perry_Blue_Hair_Cleavage_Full.jpgx

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The only difference between Katy Perry and Ke$ha is that Katy Perry occasionally puts out a song that's not horrible.

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I actually can see "Sexy and I Know It" being a parody on slutty girl songs, but yeah, that doesn't stop the song from being a disgrace.

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I've never heard that Jason Derulo song, but the obsession with clubs is one of my problems with contemporary top 40 music. Do we really need 3 billion songs with "partying in da club" as the subject?

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I love "Price Tag." Who You Are is a good album, too.

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Ed did one of these to a similar amount of activity at one point.

Ed literally said he did user rankings that were "objective" or "semi-objective," though. Haven't seen anything like that from Smurf so far.

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Ryoko and Cyclo aren't much alike, really >_>

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Besides, edits might improve it.

TPM is beyond improving.

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You can't make a maplejet writeup without mentioning hipsters! But I'll forgive Smurf, since that's a more recent thing.

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I'll pick a middle ground between both sides of the HM argument. Yes, he used to be popular, but to me popularity =! influence - AT was the most popular user here at one point, and most regulars now probably don't even know who he is. And I think Ulti was the first user to do huge list topics and stuff. HM was the first one to regularly post gaming news, though, and of course he's the reason for all the Heroic alts.

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up

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yeah MYC spent hours introducing me to Frank Zappa and a few other guitarists like him

Who were the other guitarists?

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What do hipsters think about 2012?

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