Yeah, I know, pretty flimsy but I'll roll with it since it's basically what happens in the original.If it's like the original then that makes sense, it doesn't need to be bulletproof. I figured a lot of this was new to set up the multiverse stuff but I guess not.
I do think the Aerith at the end is very much in the lifestream. You could call her dead, or a ghost, but she can hop between dimensions so she's definitely still around.
https://streamable.com/fxiul1
(first thing i thought of with all the eclipse talk lately, lol)
I was on vacation for a couple of weeks, resumed the quest for platinum (and 100% playlog just because) on returning home. put off trying Rulers of the Outer Worlds as long as I could and finally got around to it and did it, after many hours spent... pure cheese strats helping to breeze through the first four fights, couldn't get through 5th until seeing a video that was just showing a straightforward -aga stunlock and worked like a charm. What a relief that's over with.
....still have some painful solo challenges and the legendary challenges to go (and Chapter 14 hard mode) but the end is in sight.
Also agreed, though where I'm a little stumped is whether it's just your consciousness that can move between worlds or your whole physical body. Like, we saw Cloud and Aerith take over the comatose ones in the Zack-verse. My impression of Biggs re-telling his story sounded like a similar deal for him.
However, while I was assuming the Zack and Aerith fights w/ Cloud at "edge of creation" were fights in his mind w/ their respective consciousnesses teaming up with him, Zack's whole body and not just his consciousness was being sent to and fro in that final battle sequence & in the ending?? I also thought maybe only Cloud could see Aerith because her consciousness was still residing with him after the final battle but the fact Red XIII could sense her is like, yeah... lifestream ghost? Maybe without a body to consciousness-shift into, the other Aerith is just a ghost in our world that only Cloud can see due to the fate-breaching event?
Also means there are two different Aeriths right now, technically? "our" Aerith who died and is in the lifestream, and "other" Aerith who's in the world where she survived, popped over to help Cloud in his final battle, and goes back to her "second home" in the other world at the game's end?
Also agreed, though where I'm a little stumped is whether it's just your consciousness that can move between worlds or your whole physical bodyIt seems pretty clear that it's consciousness only. We've never seen more than 1 body in one place at the same time, and Cloud & Aerith needed their comatose bodies to jump into. Also in the original Japanese, Aerith refers to the lifestream as containing the Cetra's consciousnesses. So it's more that consciousness is physical and the lifestream is a physical place that consciousnesses can go. They can only enter the world through an existing body though.
Also means there are two different Aeriths right now, technically? "our" Aerith who died and is in the lifestream, and "other" Aerith who's in the world where she survived, popped over to help Cloud in his final battle, and goes back to her "second home" in the other world at the game's end?To me it seems like there's only "our" Aerith who is the main one and who is in the lifestream and who fought with Cloud. The one who survived is from an alternate timeline, and you can imagine infinite of those. But the alternate timeline isn't real/canon. They just showed it to confuse the players, and then switched back to showing the main timeline. Same as Zack choosing to save Cloud vs Biggs. They flipped between both confusingly, but none of those are really canon. The only canon Zack is the one who died and is now in the lifestream and who fought with Cloud.
It's the same with Zack too, but a bit trickier because Seph apparently was able to cut part of Zack's lifestream consciousness away? It seemed like Zack ended up in the real world after that and couldn't go back.
Yeah it is tricky because on one hand you're saying it's consciousness only that can shift but like, we watched Sephiroth cut a hole in reality and send Zack, body and all, tumbling through it? That's a lot more than just his mind/consciousness??? Actually come to think of it we saw Aerith do the same thing with Cloud in the church too. Or is it, like... the "reality hole" is just something the mind perceives, so the consciousness goes tumbling through it while the body stays behind? really I just need to stop thinking about this, lol.I think it was just consciousness in both cases. Represented as body. But when they wake up, they do so from consciousness only.
Are they just anti energy and growth in general?
I really believe Aerith in the final cutscene is just Cloud being manipulated. Could be just bad directing, but I didn't feel like she was behaving like real Aerith at all. Also mentioned Meteor out of nowhere.Yeah Max has me pretty convinced lol. Her mentioning Meteor is the biggest flag imo.
Red sensing Aerith is too intentional for me to think it's ALL in Cloud's headOne more theory that would explain this. We've only seen a few people sensitive to the lifestream. Aerith and Seph seem to be able to manipulate it and jump around on demand. Cloud and Zack can traverse it but can't control it. Red can just sense it.
I think you were supposed to have all characters fully decked out in materia all game long, right?
I think it's the combination of actually strategizing for six characters in conjunction with like an hour of final boss phases that's really keeping me from jumping in.
Can you put the HP <-> MP Swap on someone you're not using anyway and then have basically unlimited MP outside of battle? In that case that gets up there as well.
Soundtrack is out and boy I am excited to listen to it BUT already facing disappointment. The 2nd thing I checked (after the array of final battle songs) is the chill jazzy Turks theme when you've got your bench opportunity between the Abzu and Turks fights and that song's NOT on the OST, at least where it should be between those fights. Fingers crossed it's some random other spot on the OST for some reason, or on the "bonus" 8th disc which iirc was just going to contain minigame music so wouldn't make sense to put it there. Otherwise will need to wait for the Rebirth Plus album, damn.Is it only 175 songs? I thought the full OST was over 400 songs.
Couldn't include that but had to include 11 Loveless tracks...
Revival materia is in this game?? Wow I never found a single one, and I thought I did basically everything on my normal playthrough, besides endgame stuff. Although I did notice I had Revival Materia Earrings in my bag near the end, don't even remember getting those.
Is it only 175 songs? I thought the full OST was over 400 songs.
Revival materia is in this game?? Wow I never found a single one, and I thought I did basically everything on my normal playthrough, besides endgame stuff.
Where's Salmon's theme? The piano/strings version of the Cosmo Canyon theme? The version of Yuffie's theme when climbing Corel? Gah.
vending machines????? omg I scrolled through every vending machine, can't believe I never noticed Revival... the heck is wrong with me.
I actually thought it was a really interesting design choice to not give us Revive at all, and to barely have any Magnify (I only found 2). Makes you adapt in different ways, then maybe they bring them back for part 3 and you're all like "wow I missed these"...
I have a very defensive strategy in this game, so I hardly ever had a character faint anyways. Used maybe 10 phoenix downs all game long...