Master Willem sought to reach beyond the limits of human understanding. To do so he needed eyes, eyes 'to put on the inside'. But those eyes had to be cultivated inside a seedbed. And those seedbeds became as such against their own will, the experiments turned them into 'a garden'. Yet now Willem sits alone, rich with eyes yet abandoned by his pupils and surrounded by his creations. Creations like you. You no longer resemble what you used to be and cannot even experience the world through anything but sight. But your eyes see all..
You are Garden of Eyes, PREY Watcher
Each night you can target 1 player and you see all of their visitors, name and all.
I really wish I could compile my thoughts faster.Well, this looks like someone who knew JC was scum, right? He says he is suddenly so sure JC is scum that he is willing to jump on any lynch train that is not led by JC. But then why would you be open to joining a lynch that isn't JC? Why not just kill JC? I don't see why town makes this comment. It sounds like scum Ifrit is trying to see if there is an angle where he can avoid lynching JC. But at the same time acknowledging that JC is scum so he wont follow JC's preferred candidate.
Lopen has been bugging me for a while, though. He needled Sbell about Ulti joining him on Peaf, but was totally okay with it when Ulti joined him. Recently he still had Ulti as possible scum, but then follows him on to wallz. He also had suspicion on Sbell (which he said led him to believe Peaf was town), but didn't list him as a possible fifth in post #9 (instead having Blade and IGCD). I don't think he's been as consistent as his judge judy would like.
His defense of JC here feels off too. Which makes me think Ulti is right. And JC looks opportunistic here, willing to jump on with whatever lynch as long as it's not him.
##Vote: JC
Well, this looks like someone who knew JC was scum, right?Is certainly easy to see things that way. Jc voting in self preservation mode isn't really scummy, anyway. Town players do that all the time. So his last statement is quite hollow.
Is certainly easy to see things that way. Jc voting in self preservation mode isn't really scummy, anyway. Town players do that all the time. So his last statement is quite hollow.
So scum is just Ben/Lopen/Sbell. All three trying desperately to save JC yesterday, to no avail.
Killing isquen is not only a major dick move, but also extremely surprising.I wouldn't call the kill surprising when several people were calling him confirmed or virtually confirmed town after the replace.
Well done yesterday, Ulti.
Well, this looks like someone who knew JC was scum, right? He says he is suddenly so sure JC is scum that he is willing to jump on any lynch train that is not led by JC. But then why would you be open to joining a lynch that isn't JC? Why not just kill JC? I don't see why town makes this comment. It sounds like scum Ifrit is trying to see if there is an angle where he can avoid lynching JC. But at the same time acknowledging that JC is scum so he wont follow JC's preferred candidate.
lol what? Ben was pretty damn vital in the JC lynch.
I also added a new feature to my Votals spreadsheet so I can isolate 1 player at a time. Here's Lopen D1 Votes:So pretty much exclusively people that killed JC
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7b14957e.png
So scum is just Ben/Lopen/Sbell. All three trying desperately to save JC yesterday, to no avail.Is that what you think I was doing? I was on JC originally, but I like to have some fun at EoD and see what counter trains can be baited. But if that's the logic then the 3 of us just needed to vote for someone that wasn't you and already had one vote, and then the vote would have been tied.
Lopen, care to explain why you were trying to save the Roleblocker so badly?
JC made a questionable post [T3P63]My biggest issue with Peaf is he left his vote on me, which in no way did anything but refusal committal to any train that actually mattered.
Ben was first to quote it and said "cringe"[T3P65]. Blade quoted it shortly after and remarked "is this post actually saying anything"[T3P72]. They might not have cast the very first vote on JC, but this felt like the start of his lynch.
Peaf responds to Blade "will we join forces on jc?"[T3P76]. That by itself doesn't preclude Peaf from being a JC Scummate, self preservation is a strong motivator, but RBer is a pretty key role usually so Peaf would have to be something equally vital in that scenario.
Ulti is the first to react to JC's fake claim and he does it very loudly, as he does most things. I'm not convinced of Ulti's innocence based on this, I would not put it past him to pounce on a scummate for making a misstep (a combination of poor posts and a badly selected flavor/role combination). But it's a step in the "town" direction for ulti. Incidentally I gave corrik's day 1 play bonus points as he had locked JC into team "no move" which combined with the claimed vanilla flavor had a lot to do with his death.
With 3 minutes to go Corrik says "Jc real claim?" (T3P317) Feels like it could be a hail mary to give JC a chance to recant and squeeze someone else in at the deadline. Corrik had swapped his vote to red at that point, he swapped it to a JC vote with 57 seconds to EoD and then swapped it to NO vote 18 seconds later. At the time it was still 5/4 and it wasn't until Ben swapped from Ifrit to JC that it put things comfortable out of reach. Combined with his 'cringe' comment earlier I can't help but like Ben's involvement in JC's lynch, regardless of my feelings about his earlier play.
So Ben, Blade and Ulti all look better. Peaf mayyybe looks better? Corrik looks both better and worse.
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On a different note I did not appreciate Ben chastizing me for "not providing" the Move / No Move list as though I'm the only person capable of tracking information. For one this was Corriks thing and he had already posted a fairly updated last the prior topic. For another I was at work and not at home with my spreadsheets. For another another I hadn't even updated my spreadsheet with any of the information yet because other than move/no move we basically didn't have anything.
But now that I had time here's what I have so far:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c52c33d6.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/76104c3c.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c408c251.png
So pretty much exclusively people that killed JC
Were we paying attention to the same lynch? He was fighting that tooth and nail until the end.
Mind meld with Ben here he made the argument I was gonna make to start the dayI notice JC took till the last minute to put his vote on anyone to save himself. That definitely puts anyone who was a big lynch candidate near EoD (besides Blade, who JC was pushing) in a very scummy light. Wallz was one of them IIRC
##Vote: Ifrit
Really think wallz ifrit JC were all scum. If any flip town you guys can get on me for stanning for JC then
STOP
stop
STOP
Most beasts and hunters seek the blood, but you seek something far more valuable: Insight. Insight is the true currency of Yharnam. Each time a lesser creature received a revelation from above, they gain insight: whether they consume knowledge left behind by madmen or get a glimpse of a whole new reality. And the power to steal insight has been stitched into your own brain literally, transforming you into a creature neither man nor beast. You can trap your prey with psychic powers or your own thin claws and suck the brains right out of them...
If only there was something you could do with your knowledge, if only you cared about anything beyond the brainsucking itself.
You are the Brainsucker, PREY Vanilla
You have no powers but your vote. You win when all threats to the prey have been eliminated.
You confirmed yourself town but you killed my strongest town read.SBell was also one of my top townreads.
I respect the balls to go for it but dammit, man. I would have video taped myself eating a shoe if sbell was scum this game.
In to dayvig SBell, as is From Soft mafia tradition
As I said in the signup topicI swear if MZero rolled Mafia Dayvig and just pulled the greatest trolling act of the century all I can do is laugh
My work here is done
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Im not worried about being mislynched today. But this feels more like wrong town sbell instead of scum sbell so far.
Dayvigs are not confirmed town.I would have thought that scum dayvig, outside of "oops all dayvigs", would be as banned as insane psychic.
ClownUlti, enough.
I would have thought that scum dayvig, outside of "oops all dayvigs", would be as banned as insane psychic.We've seen a scum dayvig a couple of times. I believe it was Pj who won as scum dayvig by immediately dayvigging a scumbuddy and then coasting the rest of the game without getting a vote.
Are we gonna mass today, Ulti?
Why did you not kill him first post of the game?
Why did you not kill him first post of the game?
You confirmed yourself town but you killed my strongest town read.Excuse my hair
I respect the balls to go for it but dammit, man. I would have video taped myself eating a shoe if sbell was scum this game.