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TomNook7
11/15/2023
09:55 PM
#1
It's been like 8 years since I last played this and I never finished it

Going for the platinum trophy this time, and I'm gonna study as much lore as possible

I can make this a playthrough topic if people really want, but really I just wanna know missables / tips / tricks / platinum trophy help etc
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KamikazePotato
11/15/2023
09:59 PM
#2
Here's the only missable stuff I can remember that matters:

-Never send people to Iosefka's Clinic. Send them to Oedon's Chapel.
-The one exception to that rule is some asshole civilian that's clearly distrustful of you (it'll be obvious). Tell them to go to the Clinic. That'll reverse-psychology them into heading to the Chapel.
-To get the 'best' ending, find and use three 'One Third of Ubilical Cord' before confronting the final boss.
-Do the DLC. It's the best part of the game.
It's Reyn Time.
Pirateking2000
11/15/2023
10:06 PM
#3
  • Its faster paced and its better to be aggressive
  • Chalice Dungeons are required to get platinum so you may have to look shit up and there are some pain in the ass obstacles in some of em.
  • Assuming you don't cloud save there are multiple endings so you'll need to do multiple runs (otherwise y'know cloud save and redo the last parts as needed note you have to use three of the cords to trigger the final ending, having them in inventory isn't enough so you can save them if you are planning the cloud save method )
  • There are some secret areas you'll need to find and get to.


Old Hunters trophies I think are just beating the bosses and finding the weapons.

Also to add on to above notes about sending people to clinic vs chapel. Watch out for one other particular NPC and don't send that one to the chapel. It'll be pretty obvious who it is. That one you can send to the clinic unless you want to fight em.
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PeaceFrog
11/15/2023
10:14 PM
#4
What they said.

Good luck and have fun.
~Peaf~
TomNook7
11/15/2023
10:16 PM
#5
Pirateking2000 posted...
* Assuming you don't cloud save there are multiple endings so you'll need to do multiple runs (otherwise y'know cloud save and redo the last parts as needed)

lol i did this for the platinum in elden ring. At what point should i create my cloud save?
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MrSmartGuy
11/15/2023
10:21 PM
#6
KamikazePotato posted...
- To get the 'best' ending, find and use three 'One Third of Ubilical Cord' before confronting the final boss.
Before doing the first part of this. You can find, just don't use.
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Pirateking2000
11/15/2023
10:22 PM
#7
Also another thing I remembered in regards to getting a certain ending and tied to npcs. One of the cords (of which there are only a certain amount you can attain) you can get is linked to one of the npcs. There are two you can send back to the chapel, Arianna (lady in red dress) and Adella (church lady). Both of them will offer you special items that you can get from them repeatedly once used. Don't take what is offered by Arianna (or at the very least not multiple times) and stick with church lady. Otherwise you will miss out on one of the cords
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Pirateking2000
11/15/2023
10:29 PM
#8
TomNook7 posted...
lol i did this for the platinum in elden ring. At what point should i create my cloud save?

When you gain access to a certain area within the hub zone at the endgame (you'll know it when you see it) assuming you got the items you needed to get and didn't use em. Basically for the endings its:

Accept
Refuse
Refuse after using three cords

Also for story's sake I think it's best to complete the Old Hunters DLC like 3/4th through or probably prior to when you get to a certain lake. I could be wrong about timing but it affects a certain npc and I am unsure if it still happens after that point.
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TomNook7
11/17/2023
06:14 PM
#9
Thank you guys for posting all this. Im already having a blast with this game.

Some of the audio files dont seem to be working tho. Some of the boss themes and dialogue are missing. Im playing my ps4 copy, and i tried it on both ps4 and ps5, and i had the issue both ways, so i dunno. Maybe the disc is scratched and the files arent being copied properly, or maybe my smart tv is doing something dumb

Also what does insight do? I know it summons people, but doesnt it also work kinda like Eternal Darkness where trippy stuff starts happening? Do i wanna keep it as high as possible at all times or what
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Ifrit
11/17/2023
06:20 PM
#10
Tip: The first area is great for restoring your blood vials, as they become prohibitively more expensive as the game goes on. At least that's what I found when I did my playthrough topic 2 years ago.
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KamikazePotato
11/17/2023
06:25 PM
#11
Insight is generally better high than low, but don't stress over it. You'll gain more as the game progresses on and it isn't 100% vital to anything.
It's Reyn Time.
PeaceFrog
11/17/2023
07:09 PM
#12
Yeah it's not as impactful as eternal darkness, there's basically just some Easter eggs that you get to see if you have high insight. Then eventually there's also a second shop that you can buy things with insight at, and you can summon coop partners with it.
~Peaf~
TomNook7
11/17/2023
10:10 PM
#13
Im just gonna download the digital version for $10 and see if that fixes the audio problems

But man i love how good movement feels in this game. You can flow in and out of danger almost like a dance . I dont think i fully appreciated how truly good this was back then

Exploration and environmental story telling is top notch as always. Old yharnam especially. Crazy old hunter who shoots anyone who enters his territory, beasts having taken over a church and standing around worshipping some weird dead creature. Its so badass.

The only complaint i have is some of these areas are a bit too maze-like, and i get stressed out feeling like i havent thoroughly searched everything lol
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PeaceFrog
11/17/2023
10:23 PM
#14
What weapon/s are you using?
~Peaf~
TomNook7
11/17/2023
10:43 PM
#15
Saw cleaver and hunter pistol for just right now. Ive beaten father gascoigne and cleric beast, i just got killed by blood starved beast

it really sucked fighting gascoigne in complete silence without that epic music

Anddd im still having the audio issues even with the digital version. Would someone else be willing to try playing their copy, get all the updates, and see if the sound works? It might be the latest update has broken the game or something? Just start a new game and see if theres audio in the opening cut scene
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PeaceFrog
11/17/2023
10:49 PM
#16
That's super disappointing. The music in that fight adds so much.

I might be able to test it out tomorrow evening.
~Peaf~
TomNook7
11/17/2023
11:07 PM
#17
Ah, i figured out why i couldnt beat blood starved beast. His final phase was constantly poisoning, even despite me rapidly using antidotes. Eventually i ran out of blood vials, and my health was draining rapidly, so i was like JUST GOTTA RUSH IN WITH EVERYTHING I GOT - EITHER HE DIES OR I DIE and it actually worked lol. Love this shit
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KamikazePotato
11/17/2023
11:09 PM
#18
Bloodborne does a lot to condition people to fight aggressively. Makes fights feels amazing.

Audio issues are unfortunate. Maybe play the boss themes from an extended youtube video while fighting them? I'd test it out myself but don't have my PS4 around.
It's Reyn Time.
kevwaffles
11/17/2023
11:29 PM
#19
Pirateking2000 posted...
Assuming you don't cloud save there are multiple endings so you'll need to do multiple runs (otherwise y'know cloud save and redo the last parts as needed

You can use a USB drive as well. No PS+ necessary.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
PeaceFrog
11/18/2023
04:22 PM
#20
TomNook7 posted...
it actually worked
In bloodborne, offense is the best strategy 99 times out of 100
~Peaf~
kevwaffles
11/18/2023
05:16 PM
#21
There are definitely some bosses that are easier to fight with a more "Dark Souls mindset". BSB is certainly not one of them, for sure.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
TomNook7
11/18/2023
05:30 PM
#22
Vicar Amelia down. What a beautiful fight, and its crazy I still remember the music all these years later

So yeah I found out the audio problem. I had the music turned down to 0 in the game settijgs all those years ago for whatever reason lol, and it was still set to that today. Im an idiot, but i dont mind giving Fromsoft a free $10 so whatever
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MrSmartGuy
11/18/2023
05:57 PM
#24
You were discussing audio issues and game glitches, and now that you're through the Vicar Amelia fight, I can post the time Bloodborne went even more creepypasta on me when I was replaying the game for the first time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIMjEV5E2w4
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PeaceFrog
11/18/2023
08:23 PM
#25
To this day, vicar Amelia is still one of my favorite fights ever. Nice job.
~Peaf~
Thorn
11/18/2023
08:26 PM
#26
Amelia was the first real wall I had (Bloodborne was my first Souls) and once I finally got over it I finally felt like I was getting a hang of things and my enjoyment increased a lot. So I'll always remember it for that.
May you find your book in this place.
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KamikazePotato
11/18/2023
08:39 PM
#27
TomNook7 posted...
So yeah I found out the audio problem. I had the music turned down to 0 in the game settijgs all those years ago for whatever reason lol, and it was still set to that today.
"Wait...when's the last time I checked my settings?"

Insight Gained
It's Reyn Time.
Sorozone
11/18/2023
08:44 PM
#28
I know you people exist who jump into games without ever pressing the options/settings first thing, but it's so bizarre to me as a person who it's been the first thing I've always done first for as long as I can remember.
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KamikazePotato
11/18/2023
09:40 PM
#29
When I started RE4 Remake recently I spent a solid 15 minutes configuring my settings to perfection. Makes for a much better experience.
It's Reyn Time.
Thorn
11/18/2023
10:00 PM
#30
I also always go to settings first thing when I start a game for the first time, but in the case where I'm returning to a game - even if it's been years - I might not recheck them on the assumption that I would have left them where I wanted them. So I can understand how that might pass by.
May you find your book in this place.
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TomNook7
11/18/2023
10:18 PM
#31
KamikazePotato posted...
"Wait...when's the last time I checked my settings?"

Insight Gained

lmao
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TomNook7
11/19/2023
02:03 AM
#32
Witch of Hemwick down. I tried to rush and focus solely on the witches, but the mobs kept clusterfucking me. Found it easier to just deal with the mobs one at a time and slowly work on the witches

also found the dlc area, but everything curb stomps me
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KamikazePotato
11/19/2023
02:13 AM
#33
You can save the DLC until later, yeah. It's best played around 3/4 of the way through the game or after.
It's Reyn Time.
PeaceFrog
11/19/2023
08:34 AM
#34
I think they open it up that early so if you want to suicide run (or know exactly what it is you're looking for) then you can get most of the dlc weapons then and have them for most of the play through.

But yeah i think saving it for after you get to a big lake in the main game will make you less curb stomped and still have a good challenge to it.
~Peaf~
MariaTaylor
11/19/2023
09:11 AM
#35
  1. Reading through the thread slowly, I was actually going to suggest checking to see if you had turned the music down to 0, but I was a bit sad to see that you figured it out already on your own. I missed my chance to be a hero...
  2. Low insight is actually better than high insight. I don't know if KP made a typo or was just providing incorrect info, but I figured I would mention it. Low Insight gives higher Frenzy resistance, which will make certain areas of the game MUCH less frustrating. Low insight also gives higher Beasthood, which will increase the damage from your Beastblood Pellet buff, and make the meter longer, so that it doesn't run out as quickly. High insight.... gives you nothing in particular. It makes more enemies and more dangerous enemies appear in a very, very small number of areas.
  3. Get some Blood Gems from the Chalice Dungeons and put them into your weapon as soon as you upgrade it. Also, prioritize upgrading your weapon. The best source of damage is going to be blood gems and weapon upgrades. You don't need to spend ridiculous hours grinding for the best blood gems. Just +15% damage or even as little as +11% damage gems will make a HUGE difference. Without those gems, it will start to feel like it takes forever to kill enemies, which makes everything in the mid-to-late game feel much harder.


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TomNook7
11/19/2023
10:18 AM
#36
MariaTaylor posted...
2Low Insight gives higher Frenzy resistance, which will make certain areas of the game MUCH less frustrating. Low insight also gives higher Beasthood, which will increase the damage from your Beastblood Pellet buff, and make the meter longer, so that it doesn't run out as quickly.


good to know actually. I actually did start to feel like the pellets werent as effective as they were in the beginning. And i also noticed the white mask dudes around the cathedral are changing. Their lamps have eyes now, which is such a cool touch. Im guessing thats cause of my high insight, and its such a cool touch / game mechanic

How do you get rid of insight? Summon and npc and die over and over?
I'm the original TomNook7 from the old days. The other guy is just TomNook. Know your TomNooks.
PeaceFrog
11/19/2023
11:53 AM
#37
Or go to the insight shop, yeah
~Peaf~
kevwaffles
11/19/2023
08:09 PM
#38
Insight Shop is a better use.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
KamikazePotato
11/19/2023
08:16 PM
#39
See I think high Insight is better cause it adds more stuff to the game. New tough enemies is a good thing!
It's Reyn Time.
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Xiahou_Shake
11/19/2023
10:25 PM
#41
Yeah I also prefer keeping Insight as high as possible since it makes the game more interesting and fun.
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_Blur_
11/20/2023
01:43 AM
#42
Whoa I never realized you got new enemies with high insight. I generally kept it high fortunately. But uhhh once you get to a certain area I highly recommend nuking it because frenzy is a bitch there. You'll know when you get there.

Anyway, I just recently played this for the first time too! Think everyone has covered the points I would. I would just add that the missable areas are so very easily missable, but none are permanently missable. So look up a guide before new game plus if you don't find them. They're pretty cool.

Also also play the DLC because it's amazing and upgrade your whirlygig saw (pizza cutter!) asap when you find it in the DLC. Best weapon for the insanely hard final boss with its OP stagger. And it's just ridiculously fun

Also also also some of the highest level Caryll Runes can only be found in the highest difficulty chalice dungeons. But you can also check the Bloodborne wiki for passcodes to enter for those chalice dungeons so you don't have to stumble upon them randomly. But you do have to have a root chalice for that type of dungeon to be able to search its glyph code

Okay one last thing. If you ever want to farm, Lecture Building 1st floor is the perfect place to do so when you get there. Can get a ridiculous amount of Blood Echoes real fast. Even if you don't like farming, still a useful tip if you want to just farm to buy blood vials. You will probably have to buy some for some of the bosses.

E: Also high insight does increase one thing: beasthood resistance
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WazzupGenius00
11/20/2023
02:46 AM
#43
if you get to the point where you have to grind for blood vials, look up the code for the "cum chalice" chalice dungeon and just spend all the echoes you get on vials so you never have to worry about it anymore
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kevwaffles
11/20/2023
08:16 AM
#44
WazzupGenius00 posted...
if you get to the point where you have to grind for blood vials, look up the code for the "cum chalice" chalice dungeon and just spend all the echoes you get on vials so you never have to worry about it anymore

Okay yeah that's real but you don't actually have to put that in your search history to find it. "Farming Chalice" will be fine.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
KamikazePotato
11/20/2023
08:24 AM
#45
kevwaffles posted...
Okay yeah that's real but you don't actually have to put that in your search history to find it.
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It's Reyn Time.
MariaTaylor
11/20/2023
06:07 PM
#46
_Blur_ posted...
E: Also high insight does increase one thing: beasthood resistance

increasing your beasthood resistance lowers the amount of meter you get from using a beast blood pellet. this is a negative thing, not a positive thing. beasthood is not a negative status effect that enemies can inflict on you.

kevwaffles posted...
Insight Shop is a better use.

specifically the best thing to buy are Blood Rocks because they are the one weapon upgrade material that is a PAIN to get otherwise. even for being as expensive as they are in the Insight Bath, they are still worth that price in my opinion. especially since, when they become available to buy, you'll be wanting to keep your insight near 0 all the time anyway.

_Blur_ posted...
Whoa I never realized you got new enemies with high insight.

in Hemwick Charnel Lane, it will spawn those shadow monsters with scythes in various spots throughout the level. if your Insight is very low, you won't see these guys. they'll only appear inside of the Witches of Hemwick boss room.

interestingly, if you lower your Insight to 0, the Witches will be unable to summon any shadow dudes. since you gain 1 Insight when you enter the boss room, you have to intentionally die or warp out, spend all of your Insight, and then come back with 0. that's why it's probably not well known.

as for the Charnel Lane thing, most people likely only played the game once and then saved scummed to get all three endings. so they either saw the shadow monsters or didn't see the shadow monsters in Carnel Lane, and never knew there were two different "versions" of the level.

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MariaTaylor
11/20/2023
06:13 PM
#47
Xiahou_Shake posted...
Yeah I also prefer keeping Insight as high as possible since it makes the game more interesting and fun.

this is a bizarre take because the main thing it changes is making Nightmare of Mensis and Nightmare Frontier more difficult. the two areas that I see people complaining about THE MOST when discussing Bloodborne. well, if you find the idea of making the most hated areas in the game more annoying/difficult as more fun, I won't judge you for that.

WazzupGenius00 posted...
and just spend all the echoes you get on vials so you never have to worry about it anymore

personally I prefer to spend all of my echoes at the start of the game on blood vials, when vials are cheap, and levels are less impactful. this prevents me from ever needing to grind during the run. but this is coming from the point of view of someone who has beaten the game many times, so I'm sure other people feel differently. I definitely noticed that new players are incredibly resistant to the idea of buying blood vials in this game until they are absolutely backed into a corner and have 0 vials left, and then complain about the grinding. I guess the +1 damage they got from leveling up, increasing their damage from 250 to 251, was really important.

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_Blur_
11/21/2023
02:05 AM
#48
MariaTaylor posted...
increasing your beasthood resistance lowers the amount of meter you get from using a beast blood pellet. this is a negative thing, not a positive thing. beasthood is not a negative status effect that enemies can inflict on you.

oh damn, thanks for the correction!

specifically the best thing to buy are Blood Rocks because they are the one weapon upgrade material that is a PAIN to get otherwise. even for being as expensive as they are in the Insight Bath, they are still worth that price in my opinion. especially since, when they become available to buy, you'll be wanting to keep your insight near 0 all the time anyway.

just to add on to this: yeah, there's literally only one Blood Rock in the whole game otherwise, sans lucking out and getting some in the highest level chalice dungeons
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TomNook7
11/21/2023
06:24 AM
#49
MariaTaylor posted...
I guess the +1 damage they got from leveling up, increasing their damage from 250 to 251, was really important.

lmao. Yeah i dont grind in these games. If i hit a wall, i move on to another area and come back later. Darkbeast paarl is my wall right now, but i havent fought him in a while, and i did find a bolt resistant item, so i might be ready

Last night i beat Shadows of Yharnam and Vacuous Rom. I spend a lot of time just being lost and not knowing where to go. Or tracking down npc quests that have seemingly vanished forever. The hardest part about this game is figuring out what to do next lol
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htaeD
11/21/2023
06:45 AM
#50
Doesnt beating Rom teleport you to where you need to go?
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