I am so glad that Sephiroth didn't end up being completely broken in Ultimate

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Board 8 » I am so glad that Sephiroth didn't end up being completely broken in Ultimate
He's so rewarding to play as opposed to a lot of the DLC characters that are super braindead (sup Mythra/Pyra).

Sidenote does anyone have any advice for the Sephiroth vs Hero matchup because that is where I do BY FAR the worst. I know the general advice is don't let them sit in menus but it's hard when EVERYTHING HE FUCKING DOES knocks me off stage and then they can just sit and RNG me to death.

I hate Hero, btw.
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would you give sephiroth a blowjob
At least your mother tipped well
probably not
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At least your mother tipped well
Mythra is way more difficult than Sephiroth
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_stingers_ posted...
Mythra is way more difficult than Sephiroth

I feel like people just like to say 'Pyra gets kills at low%, super easy, blah' and pretend that Mythra doesn't exist.
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Also, Sephiroth is mostly a zoner so when fighting Hero you just need to have immaculate defense because you can't rush him down like other characters can. Slow and steady, use a lot of walking so you can always put your shield up, pressure him with side B and use those openings to punish his shielding
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_stingers_ posted...
Also, Sephiroth is mostly a zoner so when fighting Hero you just need to have immaculate defense because you can't rush him down like other characters can. Slow and steady, use a lot of walking so you can always put your shield up, pressure him with side B and use those openings to punish his shielding

Yeah my defense is not optimal. When you add in lol online it's so fucking hard for me to fight that character.

And fuck off mythra harder than Sephiroth you literally have to do zero reading you have the speed to react to anything. Get them to like above 60 and then switch to pyra and hit buttons.
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I typically find Hero's best exploited with bait & punish tactics. His best defensive option tends to be Zap, which eats through MP quickly. One-winged can bait that and Kafrizz out super easily with an extra jump, otherwise I just find trying to land with nair (or grab if it's a turtling Hero) rather than poke with bair or fair since most of Hero's spells cover that same angle, but better. Hero can't really swing and beat Sephiroth in any way, so he's gotta use specials. Theoretically, Shadow Flare would also take away their ability to properly read and make them go pure RNG, but I'm both not good enough and don't fight good enough Heroes to have any practical experience with that.
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You can shield almost all their magic. I like to just wait out spammy heros until they deplete most of their mp
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Nairo is proving this wrong spectacularly.

I can't play Sephiroth the way Nairo or Zackray do so

Most Sephiroths have to be zoners
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UltimaterializerX posted...
You are more than good enough to stab a wall to edgeguard someone.

I am very giga flare oriented when it comes to edge guarding online. I need to do the reverse scintilla more
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Nairo is proving this wrong spectacularly.
I haven't watched any of his Sephiroth, do you have any links?
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And idk I feel like sephiroth is a really flow chart style character which is why I stopped playing him as much. Mythra is a lot more open with what she can do which is why I said she was harder. But Im sure that watching a really good Seph like I'm sure Nairo's is would open my eyes a bit
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Yeah I actually get kind of annoyed at how flow charty Seph has to be because his frame data isn't good enough to do a lot of reaction combos. And most are two hitters.

But I already said I'd never play another character lol
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those were interesting clips. his edgeguarding is definitely really impressive. i've never seen anyone use the neutral B to edgeguard against the stage like that though it seems so obvious in hindsight. it doesnt really show how he plays in neutral though so idk how to analyze the whole zoning vs rushdown thing yet
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mfw I see Nairo's edge-guarding: 0____0

god help these fuckers online tonight!
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me when I lose to almost any other character: "aaaah GG"

me when I lose to Pyra/Mytha: "You fuckin carried piece of GARBAGE I HOPE YOU DIE"
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Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505
Why no, Pikachu main who I only beat coz you SD'd twice, I will not rematch you. Thanks for asking though.
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You wanna play?
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shit yeah

You still up?
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Make a room
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Hold on. Switch and PC in sep rooms
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stingers
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let me get another beer and were good to go
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im out of beer :(
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stingers is not an acceptable arena ID
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Ouch that's a tough one
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It's public. God I hate Smash's room setup. You make a room.
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6TPSJ and 6969
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lmfao

I can't enter your room without meeting Elite Smash conditions in Quickplay
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lmfao
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Hold on
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I have my like arena category set as elite only. I honestly didn't know it meant anything I thought it was another Nintendo-ism

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ggs. im getting too sleepy lol. but that was fun
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GGs dude. I was so sloppy toward the end there. If you have any advice for me I'd love to hear it. I know I'm not that great but I wanna get better.
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hmmm...idk your pretty good for what i assume your dedication level to be. you understand spacing and pacing well. i would say that you get too eager sometimes and ruin your position because you think you have the upper hand when you dont. learning the exact amount of time you have to punish things is pretty difficult, so...id say just exercise more caution when you are giving up your safety
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_stingers_ posted...
hmmm...idk your pretty good for what i assume your dedication level to be. you understand spacing and pacing well. i would say that you get too eager sometimes and ruin your position because you think you have the upper hand when you dont. learning the exact amount of time you have to punish things is pretty difficult, so...id say just exercise more caution when you are giving up your safety

My dedication level would love to be much higher. I'm so far away from any locals so playing in tournaments is like... it's tough, even without Covid. I'd like to stream too but it's a long way off. Maybe some day.

You're still really fuckin good tho.
"undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS
Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505
Also that hell's gate dunk on Hero was the highlight for me. It almost cost me the match but SO WORTH IT
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Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505
Watching some of ur old matches on YT. I didn't know you played Sheik in Smash 4
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Yeah Shiek was a lot of fun in that game. I was probably better at Diddy Kong though
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_stingers_ posted...
Yeah Shiek was a lot of fun in that game. I was probably better at Diddy Kong though

You were. Holy shit smash 4 seems slow as fuck compared to ultimate
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