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https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-praises-trumps-job-on-securing-border-10933460

Senator Bernie Sanders acknowledged in a recent podcast interview that President Donald Trump performed better than former President Joe Biden in securing the U.S.-Mexico border.
"If you dont have any borders, you dont have a nation," Sanders, a Vermont independent who caucuses with the Democratic Party, said on The Tim Dillon Show on Wednesday. "Trump did a better job. I dont like Trump, but we should have a secure border. It aint that hard to do. Biden didn't do it."

I don't think praising Trump policies is a good look.
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Hexenherz posted...
Man this whole Platner being a weird piece of shit thing got Sanders twisted six different ways

Not really Bernie always had some iffy opinions that were overlooked by his supporters due to his economic beliefs.
Okay, Im done with Sanders. He was already like illegals are taking american jobs, now this seems like a mask-off/tacit approval of ice. What the fuck has trump done to secure borders? Illegal immigration was already down under biden iirc.

this plus the platner thing makes me not trust him anymore.

this hits close to home cuz i live in a border town
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Biden didn't do it because Republicans blocked the legislation he was trying to pass that would do it you dumbass.
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Bernie has always been a pretty strict immigration guy tbh
Trump is pursuing a chaotic far-right overthrow of existing US government norms and checks and balances, trying to destroy our way of life.
Being anti-immigration is bad enough, but perpetuating the complete BS that Democrats don't secure the border and Republicans do is fucking inexcusable. So glad he's not the only prominent progressive anymore.
Things are not black and white. Theres a few things of Trump's policies that are not bad, main problem is the execution of them.

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emblem-man posted...
Bernie has always been a pretty strict immigration guy tbh

Okay, but why is he praising the man who sabotaged his own party's border security bill?
His policies are bad. I think you mean the issues he tried to address are real.
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What is he doing?
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darkace77450 posted...
Okay, but why is he praising the man who sabotaged his own party's border security bill?
Once in a while its important to remind everyone that Bernie is technically an independent
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Theres a few things of Trump's policies that are not bad, main problem is the execution of them.

If the execution of a policy is bad, then it's a bad policy.
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Once in a while its important to remind everyone that Bernie is technically an independent

I'm talking about Trump. Sen. Lankford, a Republican, was the architect of a border security bill conservative pundit Brit Hume called the strongest he'd seen in his more than 50 years of covering politics. But it was voted down at the insistence of Trump because he wanted to campaign on Biden's "open border policy".
Hexenherz posted...
Man this whole Platner being a weird piece of shit thing got Sanders twisted six different ways

the man has been like this on immigration his entire career.

Bernie believes things like racism are the result of economic dissatisfaction and Trumps voters are disaffected victims whose primary abuser is the Democratic Party. He doesnt think Trump is as big a problem
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darkace77450 posted...
Okay, but why is he praising the man who sabotaged his own party's border security bill?


Because regardless, Bernie supports a strict immigration policy.

He's praising trump for being able to get it done. You and I would agree that the way Trump is doing it is horrid. I don't know, I guess Bernie is trying to gain ground in that demographic
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LightSnake posted...
the man has been like this on immigration his entire career.

Bernie believes things like racism are the result of economic dissatisfaction and Trumps voters are disaffected victims whose primary abuser is the Democratic Party. He doesnt think Trump is as big a problem
Hell, strict immigration enforcement is a pretty basic part of the Nordic countries with high social welfare system isn't it?

I specifically remember Bernie having a strict immigration stance back in 2016, which was something I didn't like about him back then.
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emblem-man posted...
Hell, strict immigration enforcement is a pretty basic part of the Nordic countries with high social welfare system isn't it?

I specifically remember Bernie having a strict immigration stance back in 2016, which was something I didn't like about him back then.

Same. My region of america had a lot of warren support for this reason. I thought she was great
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reminder when bernie was also trying to praise musk early on

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Jagus posted...
His policies are bad. I think you mean the issues he tried to address are real.


Got me. Yea, thats what I meant.
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emblem-man posted...
Hell, strict immigration enforcement is a pretty basic part of the Nordic countries with high social welfare system isn't it?

I specifically remember Bernie having a strict immigration stance back in 2016, which was something I didn't like about him back then.

extremely so. Even for people witj Scandinavian parents, immigration is strict AF. Denmark had like really nasty refugee camps for a while

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Yeah, Bernie can shutup and go away, now. It's one thing to be strict on immigration, it's entirely another thing to be dishonest about how it was under Biden to apparently score points with the Trump base.
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myusernameislame posted...
Being anti-immigration is bad enough, but perpetuating the complete BS that Democrats don't secure the border and Republicans do is fucking inexcusable. So glad he's not the only prominent progressive anymore.
He said Biden.. at least in the OP.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Biden didn't do it because Republicans blocked the legislation he was trying to pass that would do it you dumbass.
Has there been any legislation passed since then?
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SockoressKnight posted...
Has there been any legislation passed since then?

Yeah they gut 900 million from Medicaid to fund ICE & concentration camps.
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Arcanine2009 posted...
He said Biden.. at least in the OP.

And what party is Biden. Do you think literally anyone who falls for the constant propaganda about Democrats being weak on border security is going to read that and interpret it as him as singling out Biden?
Not a shocker when it comes to Bernie.
HashtagSEP posted...
It's one thing to be strict on immigration, it's entirely another thing to be dishonest about how it was under Biden to apparently score points with the Trump base.
This, although I don't think he's doing it for point scoring. Having such a view on border policy is one thing, but praising Trump for doing the thing that he actively prevented Biden from doing is insanity, especially when it's not actually changed the situation on the border in the first place.
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I really thought Bernie would be above the whole "the left wants no borders" strawman. Super disappointing
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reincarnator07 posted...
This, although I don't think he's doing it for point scoring. Having such a view on border policy is one thing, but praising Trump for doing the thing that he actively prevented Biden from doing is insanity, especially when it's not actually changed the situation on the border in the first place.

I don't really know what Bernie's goal is here. He's praised Elon before and this isn't the first time he's praised Trump. Bernie's most successful legislation he passed was to rename a post office.

Bernie simply likes to talk, but it doesn't ever translate into action.
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Okay, Ive never been a Bernie fan, but at least I previously thought he was principled. Fuck him now.
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less.
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K181 posted...
Okay, Ive never been a Bernie fan, but at least I previously thought he was principled. Fuck him now.

He is principled. This is not a good principle, but
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myusernameislame posted...
Being anti-immigration is bad enough, but perpetuating the complete BS that Democrats don't secure the border and Republicans do is fucking inexcusable.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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No Bernie, ICE's cruel security theater relating to immigration enforcement is not "doing better than Biden".

It is categorically worse no matter what the fucking numbers are because it is deliberately cruel, capricious and oppressive.

Sanders being blind to this is appalling. It's literally like someone praising Nazis for doing better than the Weimar Republic at getting reported street crime down.
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EPR-radar posted...
No Bernie, ICE's cruel security theater relating to immigration enforcement is not "doing better than Biden".

It is categorically worse no matter what the fucking numbers are because it is deliberately cruel, capricious and oppressive.

Sanders being blind to this is appalling. It's literally like someone praising Nazis for doing better than the Weimar Republic at getting reported street crime down.

Funny you bring up praising Nazis...

Bernie's been choosing some real bad hills to die on lately
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ssk9716757 posted...
I really thought Bernie would be above the whole "the left wants no borders" strawman. Super disappointing

It's 100% fair to criticize Biden on border security, just as it's 100% fair to criticize him on Gaza. But there's a time and a place, and you certainly shouldn't be making either criticism while praising Donald Trump on either issue.
Jagus posted...
I like Ilhan Omar and that Momdani guy too

The odds Mamdani has higher office beyond New York is small. He's unusually unpopular for a major candidate in NYC and he's winning because Cuomo is so odious.

And he can never be President
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LightSnake posted...
The odds Mamdani has higher office beyond New York is small. He's unusually unpopular for a major candidate in NYC and he's winning because Cuomo is so odious.

And he can never be President

For now. Either way, I like him, whether he goes big or stays small.
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He was always shit on immigration. I remember this being one of the key issues that would bring out the "Bernie was the compromise candidate" by the electorally-abstinent far left who were harangued when they couldn't find even him palatable enough.

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