The reason why I think Democrats would actually win Civil War II

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Other nations like China, Canada and Mexico would aid the Democrats side, plus Democrats are a little smarter
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Amocat posted...
Other nations like China, Canada and Mexico would aid the Democrats side, plus Democrats are a little smarter
China?

I dont know, the right has a bit more guns, especially bigger guns I believe
They may have more guns but they have significantly less intelligence. Strategy is very important in battle too
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Kanaya413 posted...
They may have more guns but they have significantly less intelligence. Strategy is very important in battle too

There's also the money and port factor. California has a good chunk of the nation's ports.
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Other countries are not getting involved if you guys get in a civil war, barring maybe some Russia/China influence that will only be done to prolong it and fuck you over even harder. The rest of us just want to stay out of your shit, minimize the consequences we have to suffer from you guys going full stupid and hopefully be in a good position to negotiate once you settle things.
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Amocat posted...
Other nations like China, Canada and Mexico would aid the Democrats side, plus Democrats are a little smarter

As a Canadian I wouldn't support sending a single cent of our money to the US in the event of a civil war. You guys saw the train coming at you, you were warned by both sides about what would happen, you let it happen and continue to let it happen. America needs to sort its shit out on its own.
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VincentVega posted...
As a Canadian I wouldn't support sending a single cent of our money to the US in the event of a civil war. You guys saw the train coming at you, you were warned by both sides about what would happen, you let it happen and continue to let it happen. America needs to sort its shit out on its own.
This. No other country in the world would be stupid enough to put boots on the ground or expend any significant funding on a US civil war 2.0.

All the US would get from overseas in that event is online ratfucking from Russia et al.
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1. There won't be a civil war lol
2. If there was a civil war no one would get involved lol
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I don't think they have the weapon advantage on us, I'm pretty sure at this point everyone on both sides is loaded up

Could just be me living in the south though
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This country is despised by it's enemies and has alienated all of it's allies, if we go into civil war other nations are gonna close their doors to us entirely
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Im not sure what assistants Canada or Mexico can provide. But China has every incentive to simply fund both sides and keep the conflict going for as long as possible.

Because..why not?
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VincentVega posted...
As a Canadian I wouldn't support sending a single cent of our money to the US in the event of a civil war. You guys saw the train coming at you, you were warned by both sides about what would happen, you let it happen and continue to let it happen. America needs to sort its shit out on its own.

EPR-radar posted...
This. No other country in the world would be stupid enough to put boots on the ground or expend any significant funding on a US civil war 2.0.

All the US would get from overseas in that event is online ratfucking from Russia et al.


then you guys are messed up for turning your back on us, we would defend Canada 100% Democrats did not vote or support this shit (see No Kings protests), thankfully I know many Canadians will come help the democrats true good Canadians we love ya
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Despised posted...
I don't think they have the weapon advantage on us, I'm pretty sure at this point everyone on both sides is loaded up

Could just be me living in the south though
this. Its a total myth Democrats dont have enough guns
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Amocat posted...
then you guys are messed up for turning your back on us, we would defend Canada 100% Democrats did not vote or support this shit (see No Kings protests), thankfully I know many Canadians will come help the democrats true good Canadians we love ya
Also it is in Canada's interest to aid the Democrat side in the war. The last thing Canada wants is a fascist dictatorship right across the border
dhampire1 posted...
I dont know, the right has a bit more guns, especially bigger guns I believe
personal gun ownership wouldn't even factor into a civil war.

VincentVega posted...
As a Canadian I wouldn't support sending a single cent of our money to the US in the event of a civil war. You guys saw the train coming at you, you were warned by both sides about what would happen, you let it happen and continue to let it happen. America needs to sort its shit out on its own.
depending on the winner your country would be next.
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Amocat posted...
then you guys are messed up for turning your back on us, we would defend Canada 100% Democrats did not vote or support this shit (see No Kings protests), thankfully I know many Canadians will come help the democrats true good Canadians we love ya
No, no they really won't America is the enemy of the world regardless of whose in power given that our main export is selling weapons, disfranchising smaller countries by installing puppets and undermining our own allies by lying to get them into a war for 20 years then insulting and barating them as ungrateful cowards when they started withdrawing not wanting their own people to die for American's billionaire class to keep making bank off them I still remember how fucking pissed people in America were at France for wanting to drop out of the Iraq war and the whole Freedom Fries debacle
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Amocat posted...
then you guys are messed up for turning your back on us, we would defend Canada 100% Democrats did not vote or support this shit (see No Kings protests), thankfully I know many Canadians will come help the democrats true good Canadians we love ya

Your country threatened to annex my country numerous times and is currently waging a tariff war with us for no reason. You guys are on your own.
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Amocat posted...
then you guys are messed up for turning your back on us, we would defend Canada 100% Democrats did not vote or support this shit (see No Kings protests), thankfully I know many Canadians will come help the democrats true good Canadians we love ya
I'm an American, and it's beyond foolish to expect foreign countries to fix the US for us.
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It is unfortunate how many innocents are involved but I dont blame any country for not wanting to help USA right now
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VincentVega posted...
Your country threatened to annex my country numerous times and is currently waging a tariff war with us for no reason. You guys are on your own.
"Our country" is not Trump.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
"Our country" is not Trump.
Our country voted for Trump. Many American CEmen were all gung-ho about abandoning democrats.
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You cant help a country that doesnt want to help itself
As a Canadian I roll my eyes when some people online directly lecture Americans as if Trump voters and non-voters are the ones they're engaging with. This even happens in response to Americans making apology posts. Almost everyone I've seen on CE vehemently supported Kamala.
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Our country voted for Trump.
Today I learned about 33% of the vote is enough for the entire population of the country to be in lockstep with Trump and deserve whatever suffering he brings down on us.
Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts.
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Today I learned about 33% of the vote is enough for the entire population of the country to be in lockstep with Trump and deserve whatever suffering he brings down on us.
If you choose not to vote, youre certainly not opposed to trump
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
"Our country" is not Trump.
Your country in this regard is your government and all of the different parts of your government are under Republican control. Which makes Trump your country. Just like Russia in this regard is Putin and so forth.
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VincentVega posted...
Your country threatened to annex my country numerous times and is currently waging a tariff war with us for no reason. You guys are on your own.
and you arent interested in assisting whatever sane americans are left in defeating the fascists that are threatening you before they try to invade?
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Today I learned about 33% of the vote is enough for the entire population of the country to be in lockstep with Trump and deserve whatever suffering he brings down on us.
If you can't judge a nation based on who they choose to place into power then what can you judge them on?
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Maybe I'm too cynical, but if America ever degenerates into a "hot" civil war, then other countries absolutely are going to get involved, and it's going to be a terrible, bloody, stupid clusterfuck.

The idea that a US civil war today would somehow be relegated to only the continental US and everyone else will be able to comfortably sip their drink and wait for it to be over is hopelessly naive.
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A_Good_Boy posted...
If you can't judge a nation based on who they choose to place into power then what can you judge them on?
You can, but also the people you interact with, the diverse culture, the history, the food, the landmarks. Lots of things.

As an Iranian it tees me off when people judge Iran based on the government. Yes, way too many people supported the 1979 revolution, but it's narrow-minded to not acknowledge everyone and everything else.
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Pow_Pow_Punishment posted...
You can, but also the people you interact with, the diverse culture, the history, the food, the landmarks. Lots of things.

As an Iranian it tees me off when people judge Iran based on the government. Yes, way too many people supported the 1979 revolution, but it's narrow-minded to not acknowledge everyone and everything else.
Yeah but in this hypothetical we're talking about war. So unless this is a giant food fight we're talking about then I don't see how food or landmarks are more relevant to the conversation than politics, politicians, and what the people support with their votes or lack thereof.
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tremain07 posted...
No, no they really won't America is the enemy of the world regardless of whose in power given that our main export is selling weapons, disfranchising smaller countries by installing puppets and undermining our own allies by lying to get them into a war for 20 years then insulting and barating them as ungrateful cowards when they started withdrawing not wanting their own people to die for American's billionaire class to keep making bank off them I still remember how fucking pissed people in America were at France for wanting to drop out of the Iraq war and the whole Freedom Fries debacle
you just described literally every major power now and in the past...
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Our main export is oil actually.
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Pow_Pow_Punishment posted...
You can, but also the people you interact with, the diverse culture, the history, the food, the landmarks. Lots of things.

As an Iranian it tees me off when people judge Iran based on the government. Yes, way too many people supported the 1979 revolution, but it's narrow-minded to not acknowledge everyone and everything else.
Iran has a rich artistic culture
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China would help Republicans. Our decline is their gain.
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I would think China would stay out of it for the most part.

Also democrats states have most of the ports, so if it a long war, then the republicans would run out of supplies.
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Yeah, no one's helping us. We've pissed off all of our allies, and there's a few others who would benefit from us no longer existing/no longer being in power. A second civil war can only be two things imo. Either a hard reset of the country....

Or the fall of it.
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creativerealms posted...
China would help Republicans. Our decline is their gain.

All China and Russia care about is weakening the US, which is why they have helped the GOP so much recently.
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The rest of the world are hypocritical opportunists. They would wait until the US is weak enough, then come strong arm the winner.
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Pow_Pow_Punishment posted...
You can, but also the people you interact with, the diverse culture, the history, the food, the landmarks. Lots of things.

As an Iranian it tees me off when people judge Iran based on the government. Yes, way too many people supported the 1979 revolution, but it's narrow-minded to not acknowledge everyone and everything else.
it's important to remember that the state itself is not the people, even if (in a democracy) it's supposed to represent them as a whole. regimes come and go but the population remains.

it's tempting to just give up or condemn authoritarian states and let them fester. the problem is, these ideological conflicts aren't confined to borders, and their leaders usually aren't content with whatever patch of dirt they own. we let russia fester after the collapse of the USSR and now they're invading ukraine and their psyops are driving people mad. some americans in blue states talk about seceding, but even if we could, i don't think letting the red states go unchecked is a good idea (besides, we would be abandoning a lot of innocent people).

america was already a hegemonic bully, but mask-off fascist america is a global nightmare. only authoritarians and imperialists have anything to gain from this.
A_Good_Boy posted...
Yeah but in this hypothetical we're talking about war. So unless this is a giant food fight we're talking about then I don't see how food or landmarks are more relevant to the conversation than politics, politicians, and what the people support with their votes or lack thereof.
You asked "what else" there is to judge a country about which is a broad question. But I also led with non-Trump voters to stay on-topic.
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Again, not wanting to help the resistance in America is very foolish. If you are Canadian, and you oppose Trump but refuse to aid the Americans who also oppose him, then really you are not opposing Trump at all. Just like Americans who didn't vote. A Canada that refuses to help the American left is indirectly aiding Trump
If it was an actual war no other country will help openly, because that opens them up to retaliation. And you just know Trump would
love to nuke someone.
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Zikten posted...
Again, not wanting to help the resistance in America is very foolish. If you are Canadian, and you oppose Trump but refuse to aid the Americans who also oppose him, then really you are not opposing Trump at all. Just like Americans who didn't vote. A Canada that refuses to help the American left is indirectly aiding Trump
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
If youre not with us, youre against us
I didnt say that. I'm saying we would then possibly lose and get wiped out. Then all that is left next door to Canada is fascists who plan to attack Canada next
Godnorgosh posted...
I mean if MAGA were to win the civil war, guess what would happen to your country
Not to mention he is blaming Democrats for what Trump did. Trump and the Republicans threatened to invade. Democrats never did. Democrats want peace. Republicans want war. Don't blame everyone in America when half the country is innocent
If the US had a full blown civil war, Canada would ignore you and use the distraction to build a nuke.

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Zikten posted...
Not to mention he is blaming Democrats for what Trump did. Trump and the Republicans threatened to invade. Democrats never did. Democrats want peace. Republicans want war. Don't blame everyone in America when half the country is innocent
That is, unless their plan is to take America for themselves. Even if the Republicans won, they would be too weak from the war to fight them off. Plus I'm sure Mexico wouldn't mind getting California and Texas back.
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Other countries will just sit back and watch America fight itself. Besides it would make our enemies job alot easier if they wanted to attack us because the war will weaken us and they will come cash in on the prize.
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