Doom Eternal starts off a little confusing...

I just beat Doom 2016 and I have no clue what happened between that game and Eternal.

Also, it's way harder. I feel like paper and run out of ammo a lot. I suppose I'm supposed to be using the chainsaw a lot more, then. I love how fast and fluid I feel, almost like I need to move by instinct and pulling off some really killer moves feels so satisfying.

yeah, it definitely takes a hard tone veer and skips a fuckload of context

re the gameplay, once u get used to chainsawing folks youre gonna love it. i think the story/world/tone is much worse in eternal, but Eternal is absolute peak FPS-play. rivaled only by Bulletstorm

What are your thoughts on the platforming?

I honestly have no idea why they started the game the way they did. Where did Slayer end up at the end of 2016? How did he end up having a spaceship base? How much time has actually passed? Maybe there was some kind of prologue comic or something but I don't remember.

Super fun game though, regardless.

Yeah, Eternal is much harder than 2016, but once you get good at it, it's so much fun it's crazy. Absolutely peak game, even if the story is... less than ideal lol.

BakonBitz posted...

Maybe there was some kind of prologue comic

The game director talked about wanting to do exactly that, but it never ended up happening.

Azardea posted...

The game director talked about wanting to do exactly that, but it never ended up happening.

Ah, that's a shame.

BakonBitz posted...

Where did Slayer end up at the end of 2016? How did he end up having a spaceship base? How much time has actually passed?

13 years... Which is an insane amount of time to not have anything accounted for...

Maybe they'll make an in-between game to show us what Doomguy was doing and where he found the ship since they made a prequel already

All I remember from 2016 was some robot scientist guy. Now eternal is some shrimp guys and a giant robot shrimp lady whining at me before I go shoot stuff.

Who cares about the story in Doom? Whenever I picked up logs in Doom Eternal, I just closed them without reading. I just wanted to get back to killing.

Combat is absolutely phenomenal once you get most of your toolset and figure it out.

Its been awhile since I played Eternal but IIRC they wanted you to be frequently swapping weapons in every encounter. I think they leaned more into the "each enemy type is more susceptible to a particular weapon, so use the right weapon for the right enemy" strategy. So prioritizing key enemies, with the right weapons, should help you get through fights without running out of ammo. And also closing in for the chainsaw melees is vital too, to help you sustain ammo.

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Dungeater posted...

yeah, it definitely takes a hard tone veer and skips a fuckload of context

re the gameplay, once u get used to chainsawing folks youre gonna love it. i think the story/world/tone is much worse in eternal, but Eternal is absolute peak FPS-play. rivaled only by Bulletstorm

I keep hearing people dislike the story, which is weird because my best friend loves the story. Maybe I'll love it too, but I did like 2016's story. We'll see.

Killmonger posted...

What are your thoughts on the platforming?

I like it. I remember playing 2016 and there was some platforming there and I enjoyed that too. It had me jumping everywhere. I like the climbing aspect except I need to get used to it. When I jump to a wall, I almost forget to click R3 and I almost drop down lol.

BakonBitz posted...

I honestly have no idea why they started the game the way they did. Where did Slayer end up at the end of 2016? How did he end up having a spaceship base? How much time has actually passed? Maybe there was some kind of prologue comic or something but I don't remember.

Super fun game though, regardless.

Yeah, I started it immediately after finishing 2016 thinking that it'll start you where Sam sent you. I thought I'd wake up in hell and have to fight my way out but it didn't turn out that way at all.

Trelve posted...

Who cares about the story in Doom? Whenever I picked up logs in Doom Eternal, I just closed them without reading. I just wanted to get back to killing.

I tend to play games for their story so I'm looking forward to it. Although, I don't have too much of an idea of what's going on yet except something about priests.

fan357 posted...

Combat is absolutely phenomenal once you get most of your toolset and figure it out.

Yeah, it's great, I just felt like I was almost dying a lot. Maybe I'll get used to it and when I get upgrades, it'll be a lot easier.

jcmason posted...

Its been awhile since I played Eternal but IIRC they wanted you to be frequently swapping weapons in every encounter. I think they leaned more into the "each enemy type is more susceptible to a particular weapon, so use the right weapon for the right enemy" strategy. So prioritizing key enemies, with the right weapons, should help you get through fights without running out of ammo. And also closing in for the chainsaw melees is vital too, to help you sustain ammo.

Yeah, that is very apparent with Cacao(I think I'm saying that right) demons and the sticky grenades. I love being able to land one on those turrets of the skull-brain, Olivia looking demons too. It feels so satisfying. I had to stop playing last night because I was getting sleepy but more importantly, I couldn't turn my music up and it felt like a complete waste to not have my speakers up. If it wasn't for my neighbors, I'd have turned it up to max cuz damn that soundtrack is killer.

dameon_reaper posted...

I keep hearing people dislike the story, which is weird because my best friend loves the story. Maybe I'll love it too, but I did like 2016's story. We'll see.

I feel like a lot of people have gripes with the gameplay of the new Doom games and use the story as a scapegoat because that was something traditional Doom lacked but was just fine without. I think the developers are so focused on including a story because they figure it's a good way to keep a wider audience more engaged. People tend to like lore snippets and constructed universes and all that, so those kinds of things tend to get included in games more nowadays.

I think the story in the new game adds onto the experience. You come and stay for the gameplay, but it's not like having a narrative takes away from that at all.

I liked what they with the story in 2016, but I had no idea what Eternal was talking about. Some ancient alien gods BS idk

I never played the DLC though so maybe that explains more

dameon_reaper posted...

I keep hearing people dislike the story, which is weird because my best friend loves the story. Maybe I'll love it too, but I did like 2016's story. We'll see

2016 story is peak

That gap in plot is absurdly stupid. It's like Eternal is Act 3 of a 3 act play but you went into a coma for Act 2 and they don't explain shit.

It's one of my biggest issues with Eternal. They went hard on lore and story but that is absolutely not what I wanted in a Doom game and it was all very stupid. Game was fun but a big step down from 2016.

Dark Ages is good but the story is also pretty stupid. Not sure why they thought more macguffin story was worthwhile.

The space castle felt like something from 40k