Newspapers to start deleting old crime stories. Cite 'Right to be forgotten'

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Current Events » Newspapers to start deleting old crime stories. Cite 'Right to be forgotten'
An Ohio news outlet is leading a change of tradition in American reporting which their editor-in-chief calls the right to be forgotten.

Long considered taboo to retract or erase old stories from newspaper archives, those that feature mug shots and report on residents charged with crimes can, in our search engine-powered world, continue to detract from their professional lives years after theyve paid their debt to society.

Now, in much the same way that civil rights attorneys fight to get citizens criminal and court records sealed, Chris Quinn, editor of Cleveland.com and Plain Dealer newspaper is advocating that newspapers remove old stories regarding crimes or misdemeanors that have been atoned for.

The Guardian reports that the concept has since spread to the Boston Globe, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Bangor Daily News in Maine, the Oregonian, and New Jerseys NJ.com.

Quinn explained the reasoning behind his efforts in an article on Cleveland.com, which began back in 2018 and had just finished taking 5 names and mug shots out of the archives.

One was someone who had been in the health field and stole some drugs from her employer. A judge eventually declared that she not only had completed her sentence but had completely rehabilitated herself.

She lost her license to work in her healthcare field, but as she sought to begin a new career, any Google search of her name brought up our stories about her crime, along with her mug shot. Another was a man who stole some scrap metal years ago, completed his sentence, and had his record sealed. Yet our story dogged him.

Quinn was interviewed in the Guardian and said he regularly received phone calls and emails from these people, asking for their stories to be taken down. He was tired of standing on tradition instead of just being compassionate.

I couldnt take it anymore I just got tired of telling people no, he said.

An ironic ally in the fight to be forgotten came from Google, who in 2022 paid Quinn and his team $200,000 to proactively search their own archives of 1.4 million content pieces and delete stories that may be embarrassing to citizens who have served time and or paid their debt to society, or even just those who committed embarrassing acts.

The Oregonian is also taking action to ease the burden of past misdemeanors on their perpetrators. According to editor Therese Bottomly, each request is taken very seriously and looked at individually. Some are removed, others are deindexed from Google so they dont appear in a search query but can still be found on the Oregon archives for one reason or another.

Some, however, are maintained because the subjects behavior rose to certain levels.

These folks are going to be our neighbors, our co-workers and hopefully contributing members of society someday, Bottomly told the Guardian. So should we figure out ways to at least not be an unnecessary barrier to re-entry for something truly minor and in the past, and for which somebody has paid their debt?

Full Article: https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/us-newspapers-are-deleting-old-crime-stories-offering-subjects-the-right-to-be-forgotten/

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Would you want to know if your neighbors, school teachers, co-workers, police etc commited dirty crimes in the past?

Or are rocks best left unturned?

^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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So they will delete all articles reporting accusations, charges, verdicts and sentencing against/of Trump.
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Humble_Novice posted...
Internet Archive exists for a reason.

And also always on the verge of going under
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I do love how their justification is "former convicts have a hard time getting jobs"

Here's an idea: maybe don't be a fucking criminal?*

*does not apply to one Donald J Trump
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HylianFox posted...
I do love how their justification is "former convicts have a hard time getting jobs"

Here's an idea: maybe don't be a fucking criminal?*

*does not apply to one Donald J Trump
Can't think of an attitude more guaranteed to keep people in a cycle of criminal behaviour. Which hurts everyone.
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Bad solution, but I do have to sympathize with these people. Maybe there's a better solution.
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ReturnOfDevsman posted...
I do have to sympathize with these people. Maybe there's a better solution.

Same. Not every fuck-up deserves to be a lifetime sentence to a person's reputation.
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This is not a new thing at all.
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Monolith1676 posted...
This is not a new thing at all.
It's been a right in the EU for a while.

It's not going to erase well-known or serious crimes (Someone mentioned Trump!).

All it means is that someone arrested for a minor crime doesn't have their whole life ruined by it.
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Let in the refugees, deport the racists.
The right to be forgotten should be limited to stuff that is self-published.
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If it was some kind of automated process, sure, but the idea of random individuals purging stories of their choosing across arbitrary dates because they had the time and felt bad is a terrible, terrible way to do it.

From the article:
The Oregonian is also taking action to ease the burden of past misdemeanors on their perpetrators. According to editor Therese Bottomly, each request is taken very seriously and looked at individually. Some are removed, others are deindexed from Google so they dont appear in a search query but can still be found on the Oregon archives for one reason or another.

Some, however, are maintained because the subjects behavior rose to certain levels.

These folks are going to be our neighbors, our co-workers and hopefully contributing members of society someday, Bottomly told the Guardian. So should we figure out ways to at least not be an unnecessary barrier to re-entry for something truly minor and in the past, and for which somebody has paid their debt?

If these results are preventing people from getting jobs, there needs to be public oversight into the exact criteria under which an editor has personally decided whether someone has "served their time" versus "should be maintained" when selecting purging stories from the internet.
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ai123 posted...
It's been a right in the EU for a while.

It's not going to erase well-known or serious crimes (Someone mentioned Trump!).

All it means is that someone arrested for a minor crime doesn't have their whole life ruined by it.

Other news stories as well. I can't begin to count how many old local news stories from the mid 2000s no longer are online.
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Yazarogi posted...
What the fuck is happening?
Old news stories are being erased
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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Don't like it. Rehabilitated excons should be able to get jobs, of course, but this reeks of political coverup.
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I think that if the crime is old and minor enough to be concealed in most cases (...which I'm going to guess is not a thing in America, though, or maybe it's a state-by-state deal?), then this is fair. Basically - if you no longer have to disclose it in a typical (job application etc) criminal record check, you can get it taken down. Although at the same time, I would also say that outlets shouldn't be required to take the whole story down, just remove the names / photos.
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Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Public records of criminal activity do nothing but make re-integration into society more difficult for ex-cons. That makes them more likely to re-offend, not less.

If someone's debt to society is paid, it's paid - they shouldn't continue to face punishment after their sentence is served. The only exception I would make to that is if the prison/legal system itself determines that they are a high-risk release that is likely to re-offend and chooses to warn the area they are moving in and/or make such warnings a condition of their release.
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Really this is just the way things were before the Internet.

Yall are acting a little crazy.
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Foppe posted...
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.
Bit much innit?
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Bit much innit?
You start with something small, then you lower the requirement bar and suddenly you are back at the Soviet era where persons were erased.
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You know GOP would love that shit.
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Ideally this is where regulation would come in and provide guidelines on the 5 Ws for when this is authorized, but you also don't want the government in control of whose crimes get forgotten.
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Foppe posted...
You start with something small, then you lower the requirement bar and suddenly you are back at the Soviet era where persons were erased.
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You know GOP would love that shit.
Youre acting like the circumstances that make this an issue have always been around.
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divot1338 posted...
Youre acting like the circumstances that make this an issue have always been around.
You telling me that the history books are not being written by the winners and that dictators don't use censorship?
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Foppe posted...
You telling me that the history books are not being written by the winners and that dictators don't use censorship?
This is about everyone being able to google anyone they want and pull up things that would have faded from memory before the year 2000.
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HylianFox posted...
I do love how their justification is "former convicts have a hard time getting jobs"

Here's an idea: maybe don't be a fucking criminal?*

*does not apply to one Donald J Trump
Keep in mind all the false and/or stupid convictions. A person shouldn't be marred for life because they were caught smoking weed, or falsely accused of raping someone. That said, history should not be deleted, ever.
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GeminiDeus posted...
Keep in mind all the false and/or stupid convictions. A person shouldn't be marred for life because they were caught smoking weed, or falsely accused of raping someone. That said, history should not be deleted, ever.
So add a searchable after 20 years? box on each page being served by a web server?

The number of ways this very new problem could be addressed is pretty large. Without deleting history or other histrionics.

Not doing anything to update our laws in the face of technological advancement is how the US government got in such a messed up place.
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In 10 years they'll have deleted any mention of Eternal God Emperor Trump and his Regent Musk of ever having committed any wrongdoings.
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CobraGT posted...
So they will delete all articles reporting accusations, charges, verdicts and sentencing against/of Trump.

divot1338 posted...
This is about everyone being able to google anyone they want and pull up things that would have faded from memory before the year 2000.
You think GOP will leave Internet uncensored?
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People are losing their minds because . . . I dunno. They enjoy it, I guess.

No, a regional newspaper giving a right to be forgotten does not end up with Trump's crimes airbrushed from history. That's the Mount Everest of slippery slopes.

It's been a thing in Europe for a while now. Major and/or serious crimes are not erased. People who got caught with an eighth, or shoplifted a beer, or tagged a bus shelter . . . they get to move on with their lives.
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Kinda amusing how the board is split between hooray people cant google that my friend was pinched for pot back when it was illegal to oh no people are going to forget Trump was a criminal! and cant really decide if this thing thats been happening for years is a good thing or a bad thing
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bigblu89 posted...
Kinda amusing how the board is split between hooray people cant google that my friend was pinched for pot back when it was illegal to oh no people are going to forget Trump was a criminal! and cant really decide if this thing thats been happening for years is a good thing or a bad thing
The idea that this would be used to scrub evidence of Trump's crimes somehow is ridiculous anyway. Why would they go through the effort of hiding stuff like that when even a successful conviction doesn't lead to any consequences?
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Gwynevere posted...
The idea that this would be used to scrub evidence of Trump's crimes somehow is ridiculous anyway. Why would they go through the effort of hiding stuff like that when even a successful conviction doesn't lead to any consequences?

Because they can.
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CobraGT posted...
So they will delete all articles reporting accusations, charges, verdicts and sentencing against/of Trump.

This is absolutely the plan.
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randy_123r posted...
Hmm this seems like a tough one. Imma ask some lawyer friends what they think
As someone pointed out theres already a working model of this in Europe.
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Gwynevere posted...
The idea that this would be used to scrub evidence of Trump's crimes somehow is ridiculous anyway. Why would they go through the effort of hiding stuff like that when even a successful conviction doesn't lead to any consequences?
You're trying to apply logic to Republicans
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mobilebloechel posted...
Dell Dude arrested for pot!
I still think there was something more to that. It made no sense how he got blacklisted for weed.
Thanks for reading!
mobilebloechel posted...
Dell Dude arrested for pot!
Citation needed
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bigblu89 posted...
Kinda amusing how the board is split between hooray people cant google that my friend was pinched for pot back when it was illegal to oh no people are going to forget Trump was a criminal! and cant really decide if this thing thats been happening for years is a good thing or a bad thing
It's almost like communities aren't monoliths with singular opinions.
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