Will Goku eventually surpass the angels and Zeno in power level?

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Is it possible?
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That's when they reveal that there's actually another level of god or gods above that one.
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i remember the first time when goku met god and it was just some green dude who quickly got powercrept by aliens
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Prototypic posted...
That's when they reveal that there's actually another level of god or gods above that one.
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If you take the ethos of saiyans at face value, theoretically yes. The whole point is that they grow in combat, and the ceiling only exists to break through it. First it was the ape transformation, then it became Super Saiyan, then it became SSJ2, Then 3, then God (canonically) then SSGSS, then there's even more than that. Being Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego.

I think it's possible for a Saiyan to eventually usurp Zeno but it won't happen in the main story.
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He literally surpasses everyone
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Surpass how? Zeno can wipe out the entire multiverse in the blink of an eye. I don't see Goku ever being that strong.

Kid Goku can barely push a boulder. No way he defeats someone who can casually wipe out every living being on the planet in a matter of seconds because he's tired of waiting to fight.
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Not going to happen now that super was canceled and the new thing once again pretends everything after Buus defeat never happened.
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He's not even stronger than Beerus.
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like Kamehameha or the Nimbus cloud
Doesn't look like he's ever even surpassing Beerus so nope
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Not Zeno. I dont see how you go anywhere higher than absolute god of the Multiverse.

I could see him and Vegeta replacing Beerus and Whis but I dont understand enough about the Super Lore to know if thats possible
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s0nicfan posted...
Kid Goku can barely push a boulder. No way he defeats someone who can casually wipe out every living being on the planet in a matter of seconds because he's tired of waiting to fight.
That could happen back in the Saiyan arc. Vegata could planet bust even back then.
Sooner or later Goku surpasses everyone in strength.
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Xerun posted...
Not Zeno. I dont see how you go anywhere higher than absolute god of the Multiverse.

I could see him and Vegeta replacing Beerus and Whis but I dont understand enough about the Super Lore to know if thats possible
I don't recall them ever saying it was possible for a mortal to become a angel, but it is possible for a mortal to become a god of destruction. One of the fighters in the ToP was in training to become a god of destruction and they teased the possibility of Vegeta becoming one to.
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I'm gonna be real, I'm not even super convinced that Goku is going to remain the protagonist once Super catches up to End of Z.
The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist.
He hasn't even been allowed to pass Beerus yet, despite being probably dozens of times stronger than Battle of Gods and presumably surpassing "stronger than a GoD" ToP Jiren at this point. They could handwave it away just by offhandedly stating that Beerus has been training behind the scenes to keep his heavy lead, but who knows how they'll continue with things at this point.
Aressar posted...
Sooner or later Goku surpasses everyone in strength.
Except Popeye.
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
Not going to happen now that super was canceled
They cancelled DBS? Source pls
He just has to master Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Zeno and he'll be strong enough to destroy every universe by just blinking.
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Except Popeye.
Take away his spinach and he's an easy pushover.

Strider102 posted...
He just has to master Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Zeno and he'll be strong enough to destroy every universe by just blinking.
That's what I'm thinking, if the Dragon Ball franchise continues indefinitely (which probably will). Eventually Goku will get strong enough, that he can blink Zeno out of existence, if he chooses.
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ShaneMcComez posted...
Take away his spinach and he's an easy pushover.

He can literally summon spinach from nothing.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Prototypic posted...
That's when they reveal that there's actually another level of god or gods above that one.
Zeno is the weakest of seven siblings, and they all got their own multiverses with stronger population and angels.
And above that is the most powerful being of them all, The Father.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
He can literally summon spinach from nothing.
Goku wins if he gathers up the dragon balls and wishes spinach out of existence. Take that Popeye!
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Foppe posted...
Zeno is the weakest of seven siblings, and they all got their own multiverses with stronger population and angels.
And above that is the most powerful being of them all, The Father.
Goku: Hold my beer.
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ShaneMcComez posted...
Take away his spinach and he's an easy pushover.
Popeye once survived his whole universe getting erased.
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ShaneMcComez posted...
Goku wins if he gathers up the dragon balls and wishes spinach out of existence. Take that Popeye!

It literally doesn't matter he gets spinach anyway.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Prototypic posted...
That's when they reveal that there's actually another level of god or gods above that one.
Probably. They did that already in the buu saga
JustMyOpinion posted...
Surpass how? Zeno can wipe out the entire multiverse in the blink of an eye.

So all they need to do is make Goku powerful enough to no-sell Zeno's ability to erase the multiverse.

Zeno: *Wipes out the multiverse in an instant, his blank expression turning to shock as he sees Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blurple 7 Goku still standing there*

Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blurple 7 Goku: *Glances around at the void* Is that really all you've got?

JustaSandwich posted...
So all they need to do is make Goku powerful enough to no-sell Zeno's ability to erase the multiverse.

Zeno: *Wipes out the multiverse in an instant, his blank expression turning to shock as he sees Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blurple 7 Goku still standing there*

Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blurple 7 Goku: *Glances around at the void* Is that really all you've got?
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ShaneMcComez posted...
Take away his spinach and he's an easy pushover.
There is no way Goku would do that. In fact he'd happily hand Popeye a can of it to fight him at his best.

Then he'd lose.
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Foppe posted...
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I love that. Maybe I should start reading Popeye comics.
Not Zeno but definitely the angels. Zeno doesn't even fight, he just snaps people out of existence
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
Not going to happen now that super was canceled and the new thing once again pretends everything after Buus defeat never happened.

Daima is a seperate story. It's not going to replace Super. Just like Heroes, the Xeno story lines, GT etc
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He won't surpass Beerus, because that's the joke.

Beerus isn't a character, he's a punchline.
If something is hard, you weren't meant to do it.
thisworld posted...
They cancelled DBS? Source pls
Akira Toriyama died and he never sold ownership of dragon ball. So legally they can't keep making more. Daima was already contracted out before his death. So unless they find a legal loop hole, don't expect anymore dragon ball.
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if they want the show to keep going, nope
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
Akira Toriyama died and he never sold ownership of dragon ball. So legally they can't keep making more. Daima was already contracted out before his death. So unless they find a legal loop hole, don't expect anymore dragon ball.
There are a few entities vying for control over it, so I believe that is incorrect.
That Big Guy is a chump compared to the OP stuff in Medaka Box. They could just make it so that the switch was for his own existence without him knowing lol.
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Based on current rules in the series he absolutely could be stronger than beerus but wouldn't come close to the angels. Then there is the unknown that is zenos body guards and where they rank.
Tsukasa1891 posted...
Akira Toriyama died and he never sold ownership of dragon ball. So legally they can't keep making more. Daima was already contracted out before his death. So unless they find a legal loop hole, don't expect anymore dragon ball.
Toriyamas family can easily sell the rights or contract someone. Which they will.
He's all alone through the day and night.
Popeye is also canonically genderqueer.
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