AOC: "Antisemitism Is an Assault on Our Values!"

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, said in a livestream on Monday that the rise in antisemitism is an assault on American and progressive values, and acknowledged that there had been instances where criticism of Israel has crossed the line into the spectrum of antisemitism.

Antisemitism is an assault on our values as Americans and especially as progressives, Ocasio-Cortez said at the start of a 30-minute conversation with leading experts on antisemitism. When the Jewish community is threatened, the progressive movement is undermined.

The discussion with Amy Spitalnick, chief executive of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, and Stacy Burdett, a former senior executive at the Anti-Defamation League, was streamed live on the congresswomans YouTube and Instagram accounts, as well as on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Ocasio-Cortez, who has accused Israel of committing genocide in Gaza, said that while criticism of the Israeli government or Zionism is not inherently antisemitic, its crucial to recognize when such criticism crosses into harmful territory.

Its also important to educate ourselves about the line past which criticism of the Israeli government can slip into antisemitism, she said. Doing so protects our Jewish neighbors and protects the broader movement for a lasting piece from being discredited.

Ocasio-Cortez added that it is mutually important to recognize Jewish pain and fear in the wake of the Oct. 7 attacks and the subsequent war in Gaza while also advocating for Palestinian rights. Acknowledging that fact does not take away from fights for liberation, it actually advances them, she said. It is possible for us to hold very different perspectives about these issues that often cut to the core of our beliefs, without turning our backs on each other.

At the same time, Ocasio-Cortez lambasted bad-faith actors for weaponizing the issue and falsely accusing progressives and women of color of engaging in antisemitism.

Spitalnick called Ocasio-Cortezs statements condemning antisemitism on the left remarkable and important. She said the conversation served as a unique opportunity to explain the dire threat of antisemitism to thousands of her followers and progressives across the country. We need to be engaging wherever we can to help people understand antisemitism, Spitalnick said.
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AOC is fucking incredible.
It just baffles how some construe any comment that is pro Palestinian people (not Hamas) is somehow antisemitic
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bsp77 posted...
It just baffles how some construe any comment that is pro Palestinian people (not Hamas) is somehow antisemitic

Those people are bad-faith actors and genocide apologists.
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AOC is fucking incredible.
Yeah, she's definitely the politician we need to both unite the left and center while staving off the far right. It's rare to have someone of her caliber in a position of power. As such, voters should do what they can to support her due to the amount of good she is capable of performing for others.
bsp77 posted...
It just baffles how some construe any comment that is pro Palestinian people (not Hamas) is somehow antisemitic
Yeah there's a very nasty trick people have done where they've proclaimed that any criticism of Israel's government is antisemitic.

And it's annoying.

Especially because often the same people doing that dog whistle actual antisemitism.
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DuranOfForcena posted...
this is the kind of capacity for understanding nuance that is severely lacking in like 90% of this country's elected officials

I'd go so far as to say this is true for 90% of Americans
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DuranOfForcena posted...
you are correct of course, but that just isn't the point i was making

Fair enough
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So far, she's been able to maintain a sizeable portion of leftist supporters while garnering trust from more moderate voters who tend to be wary of the left. The only people who seem to hate AOC at the moment are the far right who've always despised her from the start and tankies who condemn her as a traitor for not going "hard enough" on their demands.
Humble_Novice posted...
Its also important to educate ourselves about the line past which criticism of the Israeli government can slip into antisemitism,

Easy: It can't.

Governments are not ethnicities.

I'm sorry but the comment is stupid. Nobody says you're bigoted for criticizing America, Russia, etc. People to stop giving Israel cover with this type of nonsense.
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Diceheist posted...
Easy: It can't.

Governments are not ethnicities.

I'm sorry but the comment is stupid. Nobody says you're bigoted for criticizing America, Russia, etc. People should stop giving Israel cover with this type of nonsense.

when someones criticism against Israel goes into insane antisemitic conspiracies, seems fair to call them antisemitic.

Thats why I suggest people criticizing Israel stick to, you know, the whole genocide thing.
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BrohammedAli posted...
when someones criticism against Israel goes into insane antisemitic conspiracies, seems fair to call them antisemitic.

I don't see how criticism of a government can "go into" hatred of a faith or ethnicity. Those are simply two different concepts.

Not for any other country have I seen people try to associate criticism of the government with bigotry.
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Strong statements indeed. We need more politicians talking nuanced about complex conflicts the way she did here.

Condemning Hamas and condemning the Israeli government is not a contradiction, neither is supporting an independent palestinian state while, at the same time, acknowledging Israel's right to exist.

Deescalation and mutual understanding is what the world desperately needs.
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DuranOfForcena posted...
you are correct of course, but that just isn't the point i was making
The people elect the politicians and the politicians pander to the people. So his point seems related and relevant.
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BrohammedAli posted...
when someones criticism against Israel goes into insane antisemitic conspiracies, seems fair to call them antisemitic.

Thats why I suggest people criticizing Israel stick to, you know, the whole genocide thing.
There are more things to criticize Israel for than just genocide unfortunately.

That's why it gets weird because criticizing a country shouldn't be seen as anti anything at face value.
What's sad is that people will still say she's antisemitic even though she calls out antisemitic shit that happens

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https://x.com/SxarletRed/status/1800612522636066982

Sorry, not a fan of her anymore after this

This was something worth protesting
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#AOC2024

literally the perfect woman

did you mean 2028?
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Kain_Highwind posted...
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Sorry, not a fan of her anymore after this

This was something worth protesting

I don't really get the first point. It just seems unwise to protest an event for hostages of 10/7. I just really don't get the "it's propaganda" point.
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Wow, some people are accusing AOC of being a centrist now.
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Humble_Novice posted...
Wow, some people are accusing AOC of being a centrist now.
Twitter. Most people can't be taken seriously there. Too many people with biased/extreme opinions and no common sense.
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People are taking these comments out of context to make it seem she is falling in line with the current American government narrative. That's not the case and she clearly states that.
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Humble_Novice posted...
Wow, some people are accusing AOC of being a centrist now

Not a centrist but acting like criticism of a government can be bigoted is definitely pulling some both sides'er style nonsense.
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Diceheist posted...
Not a centrist but acting like criticism of a government can be bigoted is definitely pulling some both sides'er style nonsense.

Do you think it's possible for criticism of a country to cross into racism?

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emblem-man posted...


Do you think it's possible for criticism of a country to cross into racism?


Country yes, government no.

And notice how barely anyone's talking about Islamophobia regarding critics of Palestine. When a talking point is nigh exclusively used in defense of an apartheid government that's a good sign that it's bullshit.
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Hmm, by govt do you mean a party within the govt. Or like specific policies?

Diceheist posted...
And notice how barely anyone's talking about Islamophobia regarding critics of Palestine. When a talking point is nigh exclusively used in defense of an apartheid government that's a good sign that it's bullshit.
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Humble_Novice posted...
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This person is a fucking joke. Corbyn never engaged in anti-semitism, the accusations all came from the right and were embraced by the right of labor because it was politically convenient, and it was used solely as a character assassination. As a result, trans rights and many other issues are dead in the water now in labor politics because it was Corbyn's camp that was the only one who was for protecting them rather than being conservative-lite.

Progressives have a problem, and it is allowing right wingers to use their values against them in bad faith.
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emblem-man posted...
Do you think it's possible for criticism of a country to cross into racism?

Criticism of a country can certainly be informed by racism, but bad actors try to use this to attack principled arguments against ethnostates and apartheid states, which are inherently racist forms of government.
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CoyoteTheGreat posted...
Criticism of a country can certainly be informed by racism, but bad actors try to use this to attack principled arguments against ethnostates and apartheid states, which are inherently racist forms of government.

I agree. That's essentially what AOC says.

That you should be aware of when criticism turns into antisemitism and also

At the same time, Ocasio-Cortez lambasted bad-faith actors for weaponizing the issue and falsely accusing progressives and women of color of engaging in antisemitism

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emblem-man posted...
Do you think it's possible for criticism of a country to cross into racism?
Definitely.
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Humble_Novice posted...
Wow, some people are accusing AOC of being a centrist now.
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To be fair, AOC would be considered centre left in Western Europe

"Hey we shouldn't spend more than everyone spends per head for signifcantly worse standards of healthcare" is only considered a "raidcal far left socialist stance" in the US.
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Diceheist posted...
I don't see how criticism of a government can "go into" hatred of a faith or ethnicity. Those are simply two different concepts.

Not for any other country have I seen people try to associate criticism of the government with bigotry.

Putin's government does it. Any criticism of them is Russophobia, don'tchaknow.
Great for speaking out, but damn she could be putting her own well being on the line.
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Fuck X needs to be removed from the internet. It's a bunch of people who probably agree with each other calling each other dumb centrists

Every opinion now has to be extreme and vicious in its delivery
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Humble_Novice posted...
So far, she's been able to maintain a sizeable portion of leftist supporters while garnering trust from more moderate voters who tend to be wary of the left.
She keeps lefties happy by actually being a lefty on a lot of policy and stands just enough ground to not be a phony.

She keeps the wary centrist libs happy by being a white passing poc girl boss that plays just nice enough with party leadership for them to not press the instruct libs to hate this progressive button.

Not sustainable for a presidential run though. Party leadership will slam that button unless she agrees to turn heel Fetterman style.
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foreverzero212 posted...
She keeps lefties happy by actually being a lefty on a lot of policy and stands just enough ground to not be a phony.

She keeps the wary centrist libs happy by being a white passing poc girl boss that plays just nice enough with party leadership for them to not press the instruct libs to hate this progressive button.

Not sustainable for a presidential run though. Party leadership will slam that button unless she agrees to turn heel Fetterman style.

I actually think the incels on the right would like her more if she was a little less pretty. She reminds them of the unattainable girl they've always wanted
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