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Scotty_Rogers
05/24/2024
10:30 PM
#1
what's better famalam
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
03:59 PM
#2
Just saw them fam!

Both are 4/10 movies, but I liked Rise better.

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what y'all think of them

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R0b45
05/25/2024
04:00 PM
#3
Last Jedi is way better. Rise of Skywalker is to generic, safe and boring.
red_car
05/25/2024
04:02 PM
#4
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DavidZ2844
05/25/2024
04:04 PM
#5
Rise of Skywalker is much MUCH better, just for the fact its petty as hell and reverses most of the shit decisions in The Last Jedi. And its just a more entertaining movie in general.

The internet hive mind opinion that Rise is the worst movie of all time is so ridiculously wrong lol, its just a meme at this point
Hayame_Zero
05/25/2024
04:07 PM
#6
The Last Jedi. It's not good, but I still maintain it would have been better if it was the finale. If Episode 8 had built up the characters more and left most of the major events in TLJ for the last installment, it would have been fine.

But RoS was even more of a mess. They're clearly trying to flesh out the characters more because of TLJ dropping the ball, but since it's the last one, it feels too little too late.
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ToucheTurtle
05/25/2024
04:18 PM
#7
Rise Of The Skywalker for me.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
04:24 PM
#8
A New Hope 6/10
Empire Strikes Back 7/10
Return of the Jedi 5/10
Phantom Menace 3/10
Attack of the Clones 3/10
Revenge of the Sith 4/10
Force Awakens 4/10
Last Jedi 4/10
Rise of Skywalker 4/10
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Bleuets
05/25/2024
04:26 PM
#9
Empire Strikes Back is a 7?! No way.
Proto_Spark
05/25/2024
04:27 PM
#10
The Last Jedi. It took the stuff from TFA and listened to audiences who wanted a new direction. And it lead to a potentially really interesting third act.

It made some unpopular choices, but it was at least trying to do something. Rise of Skywalker threw everything away as if that would win over anyone who didn't like TLJ but then tried to wrap a trilogy up as if it had two completely unrelated previous movies.

  • New character in Rose Tico? racists online got really mad at her so lets cut her to "rebel with speaking role"
  • Kylo Ren is basically an unhinged school shooter? naw screw that now hes a sexy badboy who just needs a girl to "fix" him
and so on. Throw in some shitty nostalgia grabs and you've got a soulless star wars movie.

I think if you ignore literally everything and put Rise of Skywalker in a vaccum, you might like it more as a "who cares generic space action romp" than The Last Jedi. But it isn't. Rise of Skywalker is trying to be both a capstone to a trilogy (that its largely ignoring) as well as the culmination of a 9-movie saga (that its largely ignoring).

Even if Rise of Skywalker was worse as a movie, if it at least tried to continue on from what TLJ actually did, I think the whole trilogy would be way higher regarded.
Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
04:27 PM
#11
Bleuets posted...
Empire Strikes Back is a 7?! No way.

I have high standards. A 7 in my book is an 8 or 9 in most people's.
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red_car
05/25/2024
04:27 PM
#12
Bleuets posted...
Empire Strikes Back is a 7?! No way.

yeah it deserves a 6
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YellowSUV
05/25/2024
04:29 PM
#13
Last Jedi is a better movie but did way more damage to Star Wars.
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JaiCSC
05/25/2024
04:30 PM
#14
Rise is the worse movie but I didn't dislike it as much as I disliked Last Jedi.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
04:32 PM
#15
Proto_Spark posted...
The Last Jedi. took the stuff from TFA and listened to audiences who wanted a new direction. And it lead to a potentially really interesting third act.

I'm pretty sure no one wanted Snoke to be killed off so soon or Rey's parents to be "nobodies".

Proto_Spark posted...
New character in Rose Tico? racists online got really mad at her so lets cut her to "rebel with speaking role"

She was just a shitty character. Nothing to do with her race.

Proto_Spark posted...
Kylo Ren is basically an unhinged school shooter?

Just like Anakin.

Proto_Spark posted...
naw screw that now hes a sexy badboy who just needs a girl to "fix" him

The difference is that in the end, Anakin lost his girl and Kylo got his girl.

But touche touche, we're not comparing it to the prequel trilogy lol. Still why did anyone ever think Kylo was a good villain? He was always a wannabe Vader.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
04:32 PM
#16
red_car posted...
yeah it deserves a 6

Maybe. I don't like Star Wars very much, tbh. Yeah, I'll drop it to a 6.

A New Hope 6/10
Empire Strikes Back 6/10
Return of the Jedi 5/10
Phantom Menace 3/10
Attack of the Clones 3/10
Revenge of the Sith 4/10
Force Awakens 4/10
Last Jedi 4/10
Rise of Skywalker 4/10

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Thanatos_the_Great
05/25/2024
04:43 PM
#17
TLJ was very good, easily the best SW film since the original trilogy.

TRoS was entertaining but it could and should have been much better and seemed to be going out of its way to undo a lot of the things that made TLJ so good.
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MrDrMan
05/25/2024
04:47 PM
#18
R0b45 posted...
Last Jedi is way better. Rise of Skywalker is to generic, safe and boring.

I agree that Rise of Skywalker was safe and generic. It was still much more entertaining and had much higher highs than The Last Jedi.

I honestly cant even remember many scenes from TLJ besides the Luke projection part.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
04:50 PM
#19
The whole sequel trilogy was trash and completely unnecessary. As bad as the prequels were, there was no reason to continue the story after Return of the Jedi. The prequels were embarrassing, but at least they didn't negate the finality of Return of the Jedi's ending.
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MrDrMan
05/25/2024
04:52 PM
#20
The sequels were only pointless because they ended up repeating the exact same formula. Bringing Palpatine back and having Kylo Ren follow the Vader path was so disappointing.
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MorbidFaithless
05/25/2024
04:56 PM
#21
A truly unpopular opinion: TLJ is my fav SW. Rise of Skywalker should've had a 5-10 year time gap, with Rey training force sensitive individuals, not to be Jedi, but something else, to fight The First Order. It would have been way better.
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rick_alverado
05/25/2024
05:00 PM
#22
Main Star Wars movies ranked from my favorite to least favorite:
  1. The Last Jedi
  2. Return of the Jedi
  3. The Empire Strikes Back
  4. A New Hope
  5. The Force Awakens
  6. Revenge of the Sith
  7. The Phantom Menace
  8. Attack of the Clones
  9. The Rise of Skywalker
ClayGuida
05/25/2024
05:01 PM
#23
What is the plot of Rise of Skywalker.

Like if you had to describe it, what would it be?
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MrMolinaro
05/25/2024
05:15 PM
#24
RoS if I had to choose. Theyre both dogshit, but TLJ is boring, pointless dogshit.

I mostly blame TLJ for RoS being bad, though. Not much that could be done to polish that turd.
firedoom666
05/25/2024
05:18 PM
#25
I havn't seen Rise of Skywalker yet, but it can't be worse than the boring shit that is Last Jedi
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Justin2Krelian
05/25/2024
05:18 PM
#26
Rise, I actually consider it the best of the three.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
05/25/2024
05:23 PM
#27
Last Jedi was ass but RoS was less ass.

I believe RoS was the only SW movie I only saw once, I think I made it through TLJ twice.
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05/25/2024
03:08 PM
#28
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VRX3000
05/25/2024
05:26 PM
#29
Well TLJ is actually good. Divisive, but still structurally sound. Skywalker is just a hodgepodge of scenes that happened
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
05:28 PM
#30
Rey is a poor man's Luke and Leia
Kylo is a poor man's Vader
Snoke is a poor man's Palpatine
Poe is a poor man's Han
Finn is a poor man's Lando
BB is a poor man's R2D2
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ClayGuida
05/25/2024
05:31 PM
#31
That's pretty racist tbqh.
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Southernfatman
05/25/2024
05:33 PM
#32
TFA was a bit disappointing being a soft reboot, but I was still interested in where the story would go. TLJ pretty much killed my interest in SW. Didn't even bother with ROS.
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mehmeh1
05/25/2024
05:34 PM
#33
TLJ was more harmful to the series as a whole, and I feel it sank to lower lows, but i'll give it that it felt like a movie, with a plot and characters, something TRoS can't even accomplish
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bfslick50
05/25/2024
05:37 PM
#34
mehmeh1 posted...
TLJ was more harmful to the series as a whole, and I feel it sank to lower lows, but i'll give it that it felt like a movie, with a plot and characters, something TRoS can't even accomplish

I mean, TROS turned it from the Skywalker saga to the Palpatine saga and TFA single handedly undid every accomplishment of the Original Trilogy. In terms of series harm, TLJ is more self-contained mistakes.
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lilORANG
05/25/2024
05:38 PM
#35
Both are terrible. Both terrible for different reasons. I think TLJ is more egregiously terrible bc it fails to even tell a coherent story with a beginning, middle and end. TROS at least involves a journey, even if it felt like it was put together by first graders.
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SaikyoStyle
05/25/2024
05:39 PM
#36
Last. Rise was some Book of Revelations bullshit.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
05:57 PM
#37
It was weird how Kylo saw the light

His mom dying was all it took, really? He already killed his dad.
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Thanatos_the_Great
05/25/2024
06:01 PM
#38
Scotty_Rogers posted...
Rey is a poor man's Luke and Leia
Kylo is a poor man's Vader
Snoke is a poor man's Palpatine
Poe is a poor man's Han
Finn is a poor man's Lando
BB is a poor man's R2D2

Only the third and sixth of these are true. And in the case of Snoke, that's exactly the point.
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MrToothHasYou
05/25/2024
06:06 PM
#39
Rise of Skywalker is the worst Star Wars movie ever made, unless you count stuff like the Holiday Special
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Gobstoppers12
05/25/2024
06:09 PM
#40
Loved TLJ, tolerated ROS.
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RetuenOfDevsman
05/25/2024
06:10 PM
#41
Last Jedi at least had some cool highlights. Luke's big Force power moment was one of the coolest things in the whole series ( as long as you ignore the details of why Leia didn't notice he wasn't real ) and I liked that scene where Kylo hesitates to fire, as well as what they did with the helmet. But of course that's pretty much everything I liked about it.

Rise of Skywalker, though, was just dumb. The one time it almost did something interesting ( Rey killing Chewy ), it didn't even sit on that moment before the "just kidding" reveal. Just dumb. They did exactly the wrong thing with the staff in terms of symbolism. Just dumb. Oh look AAAAAAALLLLLLLLL the star destroyers are now planet killers ! Dumb. Dumb dumb dumb. It was just a dumb movie.
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Gobstoppers12
05/25/2024
06:10 PM
#42
Scotty_Rogers posted...
His mom dying was all it took, really? He already killed his dad.
And it tore him apart. Why do you think his dad is the one he saw before throwing away his saber? Killing Han was the beginning of his path to redemption, even though it seemed like it was the final step in his descent into the dark side.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
06:13 PM
#43
Thanatos_the_Great posted...
that's exactly the point

This is not a defense.

And literally everything I said in that post was true lol
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bfslick50
05/25/2024
06:21 PM
#44
Thanatos_the_Great posted...
And in the case of Snoke, that's exactly the point.

That's a retcon. All press conferences around TFA assured us Snoke was totally a brand new element having nothing to do with Sith and Palpatine.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
06:21 PM
#45
Kylo is absolutely a poor man's Vader.

I'm surprised he didn't say "that's the point" for that lol literally everyone was telling me that when I criticized him back in 2015
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bfslick50
05/25/2024
06:22 PM
#46
Scotty_Rogers posted...
And literally everything I said in that post was true lol

I'd say Finn is the poor man's Han, especially in TFA. Poe is the poor man's Wedge. That dude that betrayed them in TLJ is the poor man's Lando. TLJ Luke is the poor's man Yoda. That officer guy that squabbles with Kylo is the poor man's Tarkin.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
06:24 PM
#47
RetuenOfDevsman posted...
Rey killing Chewy

Interesting, this? Lol I was ready to bash the film for killing Chewy off like that; I actually had to stop the movie and look up Wikipedia just to make sure he wasn't actually dead and I was relieved to read that he was still alive because that would have been trash
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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
06:27 PM
#48
bfslick50 posted...
I'd say Finn is the poor man's Han, especially in TFA.

Poe's personality is closer to Han's but I see what you mean

That dude that betrayed them in TLJ is the poor man's Lando.

He's too insignficant to count IMO lol. Waste of a character btw, he should have died in that spaceship explosion when Finn and Rose were about to get wasted

TLJ Luke is the poor's man Yoda.

This is true. I was just talking about the new characters, though.

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Scotty_Rogers
05/25/2024
06:28 PM
#49
It should have been hinted at the end of TLJ that Rey didn't actually come from a family of nobodies. I guess during Kylo and Luke's final fight would have been the best point; Luke says to Kylo, "You didn't actually tell her the truth about her parents, did you?" or "You don't know the truth about her parents, do you?"
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Payzmaykr
05/25/2024
06:28 PM
#50
Ive seen all of them but Episode IX, which going to see tonight.
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