Do You Think Trump Will Successfully Overturn Democracy?

ITT: People bash Joe Biden while calling Trump a nazi. Then you come in here mockingly calling people who believe biden is the lesser evil as loving him like a messiah (which trumpers do view trump as quite literally.) Do you know how we know you're full of it?

It's a common understanding here in America that those who support trump typically believe the left is as fervent towards biden as they are of trump. Since they worship the ground trump walks on it breaks their minds over how someone can vote for a man they despise over a candidate they genuinely love. The same confusion you are displaying in here.

Kanye west has literally zero support and his bid for "presidency" hardly even made headlines yet here you are pointing to it. Not only this but you support his presidential bid and who is kanye? A man who brought a literal nazi to dine with Trump who pushes anti-semetic conspiracies against the Jewish people.

You have no idea how transparent you are but let's assume for a moment you really aren't from the U.S. let's go with that for a moment. You claim because you don't follow American politics you can't be democrat or republican. There are plenty (in some cases literal) republican parties outside of the u.s. and if not republican there are conservative and even fascist parties. You absolutely can support those while wringing your hands and salivating over a facist take over of America.

A common tactic by the right especially as election comes closer and closer. He was explained in detail why voting third party doesn't work.

We effectively have a two party system and I am not going to go into the math or reasoning why not only is that the case but why it isn't changing anytime soon. It has zero to do with biden or party worship.

Not to mention mathmatically the republicans get more mileage out of people voting third party/not voting at all than vice versa. So a common tactic conservatives use is to discourage people from voting at all.

I am yawning now.

I noticed you also ignored that he literally pointed to Kanye as an example of a third party candidate people could vote for. You know.. a guy who is literally best friends with nick fuentes. It isn't at all lost on me the connection here.

Wait, do you actually unironically believe that the democrat party is "left"? Like actually?

As he clarified he is saying that if literally everyone voted third party then it would work. That is technically true.

Sure, and if my grandma had wheels shed be a bicycle.

Honestly, your politics are largely a source of entertainment for the rest of the world. Still on with the "you are a Trump Nazi facist!" nonsense, you would think you people would lay off on that shit. You aren't going to gain allies by declaring any and all people that challange your political fanaticism as "one of the Trump Nazi's". Do better.

Honestly, your politics are largely a source of entertainment for the rest of the world. Still on with the "you are a Trump Nazi facist!" nonsense, you would think you people would lay off on that shit. You aren't going to gain allies by declaring any and all people that challange your political fanaticism as "one of the Trump Nazi's". Do better.

At least one of the headlines flashing in the video appears to be text copied verbatim from a Wikipedia entry on World War I: German industrial strength and production had significantly increased after 1871, driven by the creation of a unified Reich.

In one image, the headlines Border Is Closed and 15 Million Illegal Aliens Deported appear above smaller text with the start and end dates of World War I.

Trump previously used rhetoric echoing Adolf Hitler when he said immigrants entering the U.S. illegally are poisoning the blood of our country, and called his opponents vermin.

The former president has also drawn wide backlash for having dined with a Holocaust-denying white nationalist in 2022 and for downplaying the 2017 rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white nationalists chanted Jews will not replace us!

Honestly, your politics are largely a source of entertainment for the rest of the world. Still on with the "you are a Trump Nazi facist!" nonsense, you would think you people would lay off on that shit. You aren't going to gain allies by declaring any and all people that challange your political fanaticism as "one of the Trump Nazi's". Do better.

You seem hurt, offended and upset. Perhaps if you were more accurate in your misguided notions you wouldn't feel so bad. Misinformation is truly harmful.

Yeah that's the main reason I interjected, I just don't think the behavior of that first guy was very productive, nor is giving him a pass by criticizing you for defending yourself.

I am American and Biden policies significantly improved my life, while Trump is likely to be hostile to my interests. I'm far more vulnerable than the mostly wealthy and secure Dem. defense force you see here. And for that reason I'm cautious that people are behaving in a way that doesn't gain votes and risks turning them off. It's much better to handle debates in a civil manner and actually try to convince people, or otherwise just not engage.

The former President and current canidate for the republican party tried to overthrow the government in 2021.

Shut the hell up.

Unfortunately, reasonable people in this day and age are hard to come by. Being told by these cultists that I must be "working for the other side" is honestly kinda pathetic. The part I find the most funny is that the one cultist even referred to his own party leader as "evil", which is something I didn't even do, while chastising me on not supporting him.

Unfortunately, reasonable people in this day and age are hard to come by. Being told by these cultists that I must be "working for the other side" is honestly kinda pathetic. The part I find the most funny is that the one cultist even referred to his own party leader as "evil", which is something I didn't even do, while chastising me on not supporting him.

I just don't think the behavior of that first guy was very productive

It's boring that the only trumpers that are left are doing this whole "I'm not really a trumper I'm just not for the left." and arguing plausible deniability while they use right wing talking points, sea lioning, and tactics.

There it is again. You tell people to vote for someone you consider to be evil, and then have the nerve to chastise others for wanting better? Oh, just roll over and keep voting for "evil" because that's just the way it is? No, you need to do better. You need to hold them accountable. The two party system is so stupid, and you are here fighting to keep people complacent in it instead of rising up for something better.

Lmao the wealthy and secure dem defense force

you tell on yourself with shit like this

And his whole "other posters on this board's paranoia" crap. Like yeah dude I got my opinion on Trump from posters on CE and not the literal hours of video and audio of him being one of the slimiest grossest human beings ever.

@Mad_Cow46 just in case you didn't see the message.

cool story bro

You ignored an entire outline of how this country is improving. You also cannot vote for someone better. You literally quoted a post that includes the words "Voter suppression" and "gerrymandering". You also literally suggested a jew hating nazi as an alternative. The only way we can have more than a two party system is to make sure the conservative party loses over and over again, and we have found out via statistics the next generation conservatives aren't even as extreme as the current ones. Only by causing the republican party to fragment into smaller parties can we turn our attention to the left and push that party into fragmenting into smaller parties as well. As it stands now, Biden is by far the lesser of two evils. If trump wins, there's a good chance we don't have the ability to even have a fair election moving forward. This is why "Hold them accountable" doesn't work. We are on the cusp of falling into fascism. That isn't hyperbole. Project 2025 is something the conservatives are bold enough to put out there and something that has it's very own web page. Their goal, is literally, the destruction of democracy.

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Yeah that's the main reason I interjected, I just don't think the behavior of that first guy was very productive, nor is giving him a pass by criticizing you for defending yourself.

I am American and Biden policies significantly improved my life, while Trump is likely to be hostile to my interests. I'm far more vulnerable than the mostly wealthy and secure Dem. defense force you see here. And for that reason I'm cautious that people are behaving in a way that doesn't gain votes and risks turning them off. It's much better to handle debates in a civil manner and actually try to convince people, or otherwise just not engage.

I'm referring to the ones who have literally posted that they're doing fine, they're not the ones who will suffer the most under Trump, etc. I'm not making an assumption, it's what plenty have admitted to.

Are YOU financially secure? If not, then that properly challenges my point, and I apologize for not considering you. If so, though... well it explains why you went for a personal attack rather than trying to rebuke the claim.

The reason I focus on security is because it's hard to think people who aren't secure would behave as carelessly as some of you do. The only possible shift to be made in insulting a non-voter is provoking them into voting for the guy you don't want out of pure spite. Nobody has an epihany and realizes they should join the team of the people who've been insulting and smearing them all political season.

(unless they're NeverTrumpers in the GOP lol. But proper independents have more pride than that)

Welp.

Im also not wealthy or incredibly financially secure, but my biggest reasons for needing trump to lose are not financially motivated even though hed probably fuck up the economy too

Again* he'd probably fuck up the economy again*

cool story bro

It's kinda funny how many people are pro fascism, but only if it's their fascist.

You've blessed me with knowledge this day.

You just described fascism.

Same, borrowing meatspace as well

Mmhm. Keep batting for the guy who knows that Kanye West is a "Candidate" but doesn't know his views and isn't sure he's a rapper.

And the obvious chud's obvious chudposting (and your pointless defense thereof) is what, extremely productive?

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It's kinda funny how many people are pro fascism, but only if it's their fascist. If Biden did all the shit they want Trump to do, they'd be screaming non stop. In fact they accuse Biden of doing all the shit Trump has said he wants to do.