"I'm relentlessly downplaying a politicians support for genocide,
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1792694477477310782
You still gonna vote for him arent you?
Where was this done? I did not see them do this.
Yep.
Both candidates are going to murder Palestinians but only one will actually not deport minorities, revoke women's rights, and install a Christofascist autocracy.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1e4155d2.jpgAnd the main deciders in swing states are the independents, who Biden desperately needs
Polls which are increasingly inaccurate in the past decade (moreso when Republicans use aggregate polls to obfuscate the results) can only be as accurate as the people being polled are paying attention.I think if we're going into "only lonely boomers could've possibly answered this Data for Progress poll" territory, that kinda just makes the numbers more striking in this particular instance.
Which at this point is around three percent of the voting population.
Yea I just dont care anymore about what you guys think about me. Zero fucks.
People not voting in November are slime.
I think if we're going into "only lonely boomers could've possibly answered this Data for Progress poll" territory, that kinda just makes the numbers more striking in this particular instance.It really doesnt. These are garbage numbers that no one relies on other than to scary other less informed voters into voting.
According to the ICC, who's charged Netanyahu, his defense minister, and 3 leaders of Hamas, it's not genocide.
Idk if this is a hot take but I thought that report and warrant was spineless as fuck. Should have issued the warrant for hamas on Oct 8 and/or should have just issued one for Netanyahu and the idf chief separately.October 7th wasnt a genocide though.
It smells like the ICC head wanted to give himself an out. There is zero chance the hamas leaders are going to get turned in and then Israel has that as an excuse to not turn over their guys.
According to the ICC, who's charged Netanyahu, his defense minister, and 3 leaders of Hamas, it's not genocide.Where in the ICC statement did it say it's not genocide? There's a difference between not charging with genocide at this time versus declaring the office affirmatively believes genocide is NOT occurring.
Notwithstanding any military goals they may have, the means Israel chose to achieve them in Gaza namely, intentionally causing death, starvation, great suffering, and serious injury to body or health of the civilian population are criminal.
October 7th wasnt a genocide though.
Otherwise though Im pretty sure any known member of Hamas is going to have some additional screening if they try to travel. If you know what I mean.
0 chance Reagan does that if oct 7 happens and American hostages are taken. He'd have troops in Gaza on Oct 8. I dont know why people think this is a good point to bring up.
If Biden put economic sanctions on Israel, he would lose this election. Point blank.
Really because it seems like he knows exactly who actually votes.
I mean they cited the oct 7 attack for the warrant they put out on hamas leaders. I read through it pretty quickly so maybe I misunderstood.They're charging Haniyeh and Netanyahu with (among other things) Extermination, which is similar to the charge of genocide but does not seek to prove intent to destroy a national/ethnic/religous identity.
They're charging Netanyahu and Haniyeh with (among other things) Extermination, which is similar to the charge of genocide but does not seek to prove intent to destroy a national/ethnic/religous identity.
It's been wiped off the map under Biden though. All the housing, schools, hospitals, infrastructure is gone. Israel has openly proclaimed that they'll never allow Palestinian sovereignty or freedom. They've openly stated that they want all Palestinians to no longer be there through "voluntary migration" or death. All of this under Biden.And as has been exhaustively pointed out time and TIME again, all of those things will absolutely continue under Trump, as well as 1) the situation in Gaza actively being made worse , and 2) All the added people in america who would suffer under him as well, mainly minorities, LGBTQ, women, and democrats.
You've gotta grapple with this reality to see why people are struggling with voting for Biden. Anything less is not going to get them back.
And as has been exhaustively pointed out time and TIME again, all of those things will absolutely continue under Trump, as well as 1) the situation in Gaza actively being made worse , and 2) All the added people in america who would suffer under him as well, mainly minorities, LGBTQ, women, and democrats.
If you want things to improve for America as well as abroad, there is literally only one choice for president this November, and it ain't Donald Trump .
You have to understand how these people actually think
" I'm relentlessly downplaying a politicians support for genocide , but that's okay, I'm the good guy because the other guy was unfamiliar with a particular abbreviation."
and you have to explain how voting FOR Biden will make it stop.
What I can say is that they should trust the Biden admin more than the trump admin to push through some type of better humanitarian deal
HE lied about seeing dead babies and help to personally defend some of the only aid going there.He may very well have. Israel is not above manufacturing evidence.
HE lied about seeing dead babies and help to personally defend some of the only aid going there.What exactly was the whole beheaded baby story anyway? Was it that there were babies that had missing heads, but none that were specifically "beheaded?" I'm legit asking.
What I can say is that they should trust the Biden admin more than the trump admin to push through some type of better humanitarian deal
What exactly was the whole beheaded baby story anyway? Was it that there were babies that had missing heads, but none that were specifically "beheaded?" I'm legit asking.
I may actually exercise my right to vote by not voting this time around.
Where in the ICC statement did it say it's not genocide? There's a difference between not charging with genocide at this time versus declaring the office affirmatively believes genocide is NOT occurring.
If you're resorting to "the ICC did not think it had a case at this time to meet the strict legal standard of genocide its body recognizes" as the defense for Israel, I mean, that's a pretty terrible defense on its face. When it did say
Not voting is the exact opposite of exercising your right to vote.
https://x.com/amanpour/status/1792627247485989279https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/ampr/date/2024-05-20/segment/01
Somewhere in the first 10 minutes, he explains why he doesn't believe there's a genocide happening.
AMANPOUR: I'm going to get into starvation as a weapon of war in a moment, but first, I want to ask you, the word genocide has been used by both sides, and many believe that genocide is being committed, but you do not, you're not using that word.This is exactly what I described. They have not at this time brought the charge of genocide but specify that they have been prevented from collecting evidence by Israel, and that it remains an active investigation.
KHAN: Well, this is an active investigation, and we have criminal charges that we can use, genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. In relation to this current stage of investigations, the charges that we have put forward to the judges do not include genocide. But we are continuing to investigate.
It's a very complex situation. We've not been allowed access into Gaza by the Israeli authorities. We're also continuing our investigations in relation to the Hamas attacks and if and when the evidence points us in a particular direction, we will not hesitate to act. So, it's still an active investigation, but yes, today we haven't.
AMANPOUR: What is extermination?
KHAN: It's mass killing.
AMANPOUR: Different than genocide?
KHAN: Yes. Genocide is defined by a specific intent. Not only killing, but an intention to destroy the group in whole or in part. So, it's a specific intent to destroy the group in whole or in part. So, we're not -- we have not included in our application today a request for warrants for the crime of genocide.
specify that they have been prevented from collecting evidence by IsraelI wonder why.
Who are these people? I assume you are not speaking for yourself cause you said you would vote Biden? Why are you the expert of how they think then?
Because a lot of my friends are those people. I just went to a party last weekend where half the people there got arrested at encampments. A lot of them are involved with groups like JVP or trying to get their unions to express solidarity with Palestine. Because I basically agree with them on everything, except the conclusion specifically related to Biden.
In his campaign speeches, the former president has pledged to dramatically expand ideological screening, use federal law to deny entry to all communists and Marxists, and to revoke the visas of radical anti-American and antisemitic foreigners enrolled at US colleges and universities.
Yep. People wanting Biden to actually end all aid and protection to Israel do not realize they it would kill his re-election. There are large amounts of people who seriously think Biden is too leftist on Israel. I don't mean maga voters, I mean legit independent/moderates.
New York was under siege last night, Trump told supporters at a campaign rally in Wisconsin, praising the police officers for arresting about 300 protesters at Columbia and City College of New York whom he referred to as raging lunatics and Hamas sympathizers.
I say remove the encampments immediately, vanquish the radicals and take back our campuses for all of the normal students who want a safe place from which to learn, Trump said.
The radical extremists and far-left agitators are terrorizing college campuses , as you possibly noticed, Trump said. And Bidens nowhere to be found. He hasnt said anything.
Those people aren't voting for Trump. They're either not voting or voting third party.
I will but I'm gonna complain the whole timeThat's all anybody does anymore. They're too fat and hypnotized to do something that matters anyways.
There is a disturbing possibility that Bidens stance will be enough to cause a very low turnout of voters due to disgust and we'll be stuck with four years of Trump again.Hell be able to point to how were providing aid to Gaza via our pier. While simultaneously not being seen as an impediment to Israels pursuit of Hamas.
No I think those legit independent/moderate voters would realize that they should put aside their qualms with how a foreign policy issue is being handled because the rights of minorities, LGBTQ, women, etc. in the US are at stake under a second Trump term.
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