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ImAMarvel posted...
Why is it so fucking hard for governments to get on board with fighting climate change?
Same reason they won't fix the homeless problem: because there's no money to be made solving it.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
We've been flirting with midnight on the doomsday clock for its entire existence. It's just a fearmongering tool.

As long as there are people out there to sew in room for reasonable skepticism, we're going to have a major problem with young people choosing to believe a more comforting alternative reality until it runs its inevitable course.
Yeah, however bad the current world state is, once biodiversity collapse kicks in, people living through that will look back on us now as if society at large is basically hitler with the amount of long term damage we are causing
ImAMarvel posted...
Why is it so fucking hard for governments to get on board with fighting climate change?
Oil companies that have proven this will all happen want money now as we'll be dead when the worst happens so fuck the rest of us.
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TraurigAberWahr posted...
Is this a serious post
Let me guess, you're a plastic straw user? Sure don't appear to care about the planet much. You probably don't even use your leftover pasta water for your coffee.

Oh, what's that? The megafactory behind me pumping more waste into the world every six minutes than you will in your entire lifetime? That's uh... I uh... Uhhhhhh... Wow, did you see this tiktok about Jake Paul and Mike Tyson????????
There's a time and place for everything... but not now.
Hold up, Taylor Swift just took a private jet flight to grab some food and is now back home.

That one act has just defeated my three years of not using AC whatsoever.
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-ZIO- posted...
Hold up, Taylor Swift just took a private jet flight to grab some food and is now back home.

That one act has just defeated my three years of not using AC whatsoever.

We also have to remember that since there are phonies out there like Leo and Bono who aren't living up to practicing what they're preaching, we have very telling evidence that it must be a big hoax...

Don't get me wrong though, Taylor Swift, and Leo for all kinds of reasons, shouldn't be immune from criticism.
EPR-radar posted...
No. The incompatibility is between the excesses of endgame capitalism and doing something real about climate change.

Since the capitalists rule the world, and are too stupid/evil to see the need for change, this oncoming disaster is inevitable.
Excess caused by demand. Which would still exist even if you killed every single one of those evil capitalist ruling the world.

This win win scenario of reversing climate change while maintaining humanitys current CoL isnt possible.
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s0nicfan posted...
The world's biggest polluter, by far, is China. In the same 2030 timeline where major nations are trying to halve their emissions, China has only promised to reduce the rate at which their emissions are increasing to 0. Plenty of governments are on board, and their contributions are effectively a drop in the ocean. So realistically the options are either everyone cuts ties completely with China until they fix their shit, or the world goes to war and forces them to. That's the harsh reality of climate change if things are actually as dire as people say.

Now some Wumao is going to eventually come in and say that "actually it's the US's fault because they buy the most stuff from China", because apparently China isn't actually a sovereign nation that can set their own policy. In reality, China will literally let the rest of the world burn if it means they continue to grow, so they have no incentive to actually improve their standards and become more expensive (and thus less attractive as a manufacturing hub).
Isn't China in the process of building more nuclear power plants?
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LoZguy709 posted...
We also have to remember that since there are phonies out there like Leo and Bono who aren't living up to practicing what they're preaching, we have very telling evidence that it must be a big hoax...
We really don't.
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Board_hunter567 posted...
Isn't China in the process of building more nuclear power plants?

They may be, but their commitments at climate summits has always been aggressively lukewarm and if things are as dire as climate scientists are being told we really can't afford for China to start to seriously reduce their emissions until 2050, which I believe is their current plan (stop getting worse by 2030 -> reduce emissions by 2050). Every country in the EU could go climate neutral tomorrow and that would have like a 5% impact on global emissions. We need China (and to a lesser extent India) to start taking this as seriously as western countries are, but they're both intentionally slow-rolling it because the harder the rest of the world aims for sustainable emissions the more valuable their cheap manufacturing becomes. And that's the crux of the problem: a nation that sees itself as the next new world power is intentionally fucking it up because it benefits them, and no amount of random people using paper straws or recyclable bags changes that calculation.

Which is one of the biggest challenges with addressing climate change. The countries that need to make the biggest changes have the least incentive and unless the rest of the world literally forces them to play along all our own actions are almost meaningless.
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The problem with the "let's fight climate change!" Thing is that it's perpetually framed as "okay the common person needs paper straws and to bike to work" and _not_ "okay this celebrity needs to not private jet every three hours" or "maybe we should limit the experimental space rocket launches to things that actually matter instead of just because we can"

I get that rich folks get different rules and all but the maths are pretty absolute I think.
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Which is one of the biggest challenges with addressing climate change. The countries that need to make the biggest changes have the least incentive and unless the rest of the world literally forces them to play along all our own actions are almost meaningless.

The only way anything is going to be saved is for some pepole to be forced to give up there luxuries, the only question is going to be who has to give up what first.
Accolon posted...
Governments won't act
Marked for spoilers! /s
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DrizztLink posted...
We really don't.

Shitty sarcasm on my part there.
LoZguy709 posted...
Nothing will happen until us younger generations quit treating it as just another political issue. It is THE issue that WILL affect our lifestyles MAJORLY if we don't prioritize it above all other issues. This and the threat of nuclear war are why we are flirting with midnight on the doomsday clock.

Young people need to quit being pushovers or we really are fucking ourselves over by trusting that the rest of society will take care of us. We've found out the hard way that there are not nearly enough benevolent older people out there to put society's welfare before their own short-term comfort.

Tell that to people like these
runewalshPSiv posted...
This. The earth has been way hotter and way colder numerous times throughout its history. People act like this is something new but it's just what the earth does.

Prismsblade posted...
Human prosperity and environmentalism are completely incompatible. And if you try and affect the former in any meaningful capacity enough to actually reverse climate change would make most of humanitys lives miserable.

Miserable enough to wise up and kill any and all overseeing and enforcing it.


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