So now that Drake is 1-2 in major rap beef where the highest you rank him ?

He doesn't rank all time at all.

this.

anyone who puts drake in the top 100 needs their head checked.

drake basically has a table of writers trying to decipher and put into words the shit kdot is saying so his slow ass has a rebuttal.

drake is 0-XX. no matter how many times he drops diss tracks, kdot always wins.

Drake doesn't even break the top 100

TCs entire defense is literally just "no, I'm right" without ever addressing anything else in the entire topic

Honestly I've never liked Drake's music and never had much respect for him as an artist, but these diss tracks moved him up in my book. He still got fucking washed, but he's a better rapper than I ever gave him credit for

TCs entire defense is literally just "no, I'm right" without ever addressing anything else in the entire topic

i only started saying that once yall started saying ridiculous stuff like comparing Nelly to him as a technical rapper. While also admitting you guys havent heard enough of us music.

like you guys havent heard come back season or room to improvement.

nor are you guys actually aware of his stylistic change around 09, cause multiple people have been like he wouldnt survive in the early/mid 00s when he had a bidding war for rapping in a more serious manner at that exact time.

Bro, you were the one that brought up Nelly in the first place. A few people commented that if you think Drake is so high but Nelly is not, that's dumb, because they were actually pretty similar. They both were basically the top "pop rapper" of their time.

Neither were especially good technical rappers, but just good at making really catchy songs.

But you keep sticking the to the "Nelly narrative" and ignoring all of the other rappers that are vastly superior to Drake that have been mentioned in this topic.

It seems your only argument for Drake is "he's a commercial success" when that doesn't mean shit at all.

old drake was a fine, even pretty good rapper

but you're trying to thread some needle about popularity and skills or whatever, and drake was not popular from those old mixtape tracks.

he is not a top 20 "rapper" because he spit harder back in the day. there are still lots and lots of rappers that rap way better than what drake was doing back then

you're trying to say that because he has a certain level of skill he used to rap at, and also because he got popular for making pop rap songs, he should be considered one of the greatest rappers, which imo is bogus

elite skill

What elite skill? Like actually qualify that statement. What skill does Drake have that is elite? Just so we know what your baseline is.

Because it seems like all your saying is commercial success = better rapper which obviously is untrue no matter how many times you say it.

I brought up Nelly as an example of a top 30ish rapper all time and yall simultaneously said theres similar artist and Drake isnt top 50 at all.

I havent ignored any rapper, most of the guys youre mentioning either dont have the body of work or commercial success for an all encompassing greatest rappers list

im looking at his entire career where hes shown but the elite skill and the huge success, granted rarely at the same time. I ever docked him points for rarely doing both.

I would honestly rather listen to her loss than anything Kendrick has put out in the last 6 years.

People who hate on Drake are kids trying to act cool by hating him even though dude put out banger after banger

Hes extremely witty

The only joke in here is your fucking ranking.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e74db76b.png

Soooooo uuuuuuuhhhh

If you don't have him in a top FIFTY your objectivity has left the building.

So now that Drake is 1-2 in major rap beef where the highest you rank him?

Not even in my top 500. Same goes for KDot, and JCole.

I don't listen to any of them.

Yes, by sales numbers, but does anyone really view "greatest musician" like that if you ask them their top 10/25/50/100?

Are Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran two of the greatest pop artists of all time?

Are the Eagles a top 5 all time rock band?

Yes, by sales numbers, but does anyone really view "greatest musician" like that if you ask them their top 10/25/50/100?

Should Survivor be in every conversation as the greatest TV show of all time? Dumb, vapid, annoying shit gets crazy popular all the time.

Not even in my top 500. Same goes for KDot, and JCole.

I don't listen to any of them.

You listen to 500 rappers that arent drake, J cole or Kendrick

is that right

But Drake used to rap like Joe Budden which proves he's an amazing rapper (budden is more known for his storytelling than lyrical ability, something he himself admits)

VD doesn't listen to rap.

GKMC is from 2012

Youre saying Tyler the creator disappeared after 2012?? Dudes image shift cemented him as a mainstream success.

i confused it with damn lol, still not 2000s

i would say after 2015 is when he disappeared.

lmao he's never been mainstream, do you know what mainstream is? his record sales aren't anywhere near high enough and he barely has actual hit singles. drake is mainstream, post malone is mainstream, jack harlow is mainstream, etc

tyler and earl have always been more niche

Stankonia
SB/TLB
Madvillainy
Mm..Food
The Cold Vein
Food & Liquor
Supreme Clientele
Be

VD doesn't listen to rap.

@NoMeLx22x Can you not read? I literally included SB/TLB in what you quoted.

i could throw in stankonia but you seem like a biased hip hop/rap fan when you're including so many albums, believe it or not, there isn't any a single genre loaded with amazing albums

why did you even mention a lupe album lol

Bro said Tyler the Creator isn't mainstream and y'all are still responding to him.

Bro said Tyler the Creator isn't mainstream and y'all are still responding to him.

Tyler has 2 number one charting albums and both of them are after 2015 what the actual fuck are you talking about

Tyler the Creator just headlined coachella

You listen to 500 rappers that arent drake, J cole or Kendrick

is that right

Please post their SoundClouds so I can show my support.

So he came into a topic about ranking rappers and doesnt listen to rap

interesting

IDK about that. He seems like the type that would listen to Tom McDonald.

the streaming era changed the rules, making it easier for songs and albums to chart high

https://www.grammy.com/news/billboard-announces-streaming-chart-consideration-change

pre 2017 tyler never had any high charting albums or songs lol. i'll admit though that 2015 is when i largely fell out of the loop with music but tyler has never been a mainstream success. two number one albums doesn't make him gigantic or anything like that

Bro said Tyler the Creator isn't mainstream and y'all are still responding to him.

lil nas x is a mainstream rapper

you can't put him in the same sentence as a backpack rapper like tyler lol

Literal proof that Scotty doesnt know what starting in 2018 means while talking about an album released in july 2017