Women banned from gym after touching a man's backside.

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Do you feel that banning them is fair? - Results (94 votes)
Yes
94.68% (89 votes)
89
No
5.32% (5 votes)
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DrizztLink posted...
Yes.

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should be arrested.
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A man does that to a woman he's arrested for sexual assault
I've seen this guy before. I like him. He feels like the anti-Andrew Tate.
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Fair 100%
if the same rules apply for men, then the same should apply for women.

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Homeless_Waifu posted...
Fair 100%
if the same rules apply for men, then the same should apply for women.

This is so straight forward yet so many just do not get it
Started from the bottom now we here
haloiscoolisbak posted...
This is so straight forward yet so many just do not get it
Right?
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Unwanted touch, what did they expect?
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Of course it's fair otherwise you're setting a double standard
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Yes, fair.
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Boombam99 posted...
A man does that to a woman he's arrested for sexual assault

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Uh.... yeah. No brainer.
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Hell yeah press charges
Just a bit of casual sexual assault. Definitely ban them.
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Joey Swoll doing the Lords work as usual.

Ban them and encourage the people who got touched to press charges.
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Sexual assault is sexual assault, yes
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totalnerdken posted...
The problem is that Joey Swoll (person in this vid) would just attack those women saying something along the lines of they're purposely targetting an innocent person (I'm paraphrasing). But that's not the case, they're targeting someone they genuinely thought was perving on them. They went about it irresponsibly, but they weren't being malicious to someone they knew was innocent or something like that. Like, there's a big distinction here.

Ehh, I'll push back a bit, here. Maybe I missed some of the earlier Joey Swoll videos, but a lot of the ones I've seen, it was women legitimately trying to make something out of nothing in order to get "clout," since... Instead of actually addressing the issue with the man or with gym personnel, they'd just post the video, going "Look at this guy staring at me!" in a video where it was, conveniently, a wide angle video, where the woman in question was blatantly not actually working out, and instead "stretching" in ways to be looked at, and then they'd more or less try to dox some guy that didn't even look at them. And, yes, Joey Swoll would call them out... But they deserved to be called out, because they were purposely aiming to get internet clout out of attacking somebody innocent.

Now, if earlier videos legitimately were attacking women who legitimately felt they were being perved on, then yes, that's wrong. I just haven't personally seen those videos. I'm mainly just speaking from seeing certain "influencers" who legitimately attempted to get famous from intentionally setting up scenarios where they were "perved on," and when they often didn't work as intended, they just attacked people who didn't even actually look at them.
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Lets be REAL honest if these two women weres uper hot instagram models with a million followers each, I bet you dude would have showed off and tried to get their number. Pluse the gym wouldn't have banned them.
totalnerdken posted...
Joey's videos in these cases would kinda lack that understanding. He would just say something like "false accusations are wrong" without talking about the trauma so many women face that can lead to this kind of situation.
Well, false accusations ARE wrong. Wrong is wrong. When dealing with anything that is potentially a criminal matter you always go where the evidence leads. Like, it's fine to have conversations about women facing trauma and how that might make them feel, but still wrong to make false accusations.
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And, to be clear, I'm not doubting some women do, legitimately, feel like somebody may be staring at them when they aren't, and mistake something due to past trauma.

I'm strictly speaking about the ones that post some random wide angle shot on Tiktok with the generic voiceover of "omg look at this guy looking at me!" and the guy like vaguely looks in her direction for half a second when talking to somebody in said direction, and it's mostly those videos that I see Joey attack.
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totalnerdken posted...
But that's not the case, they're targeting someone they genuinely thought was perving on them. They went about it irresponsibly, but they weren't being malicious to someone they knew was innocent or something like that. Like, there's a big distinction here.

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Even if you take the sexual groping out of it don't be grabbing people while they are in the middle of an exercise.
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waterjoe posted...
Lets be REAL honest if these two women weres uper hot instagram models with a million followers each, I bet you dude would have showed off and tried to get their number. Pluse the gym wouldn't have banned them.
Do you go into every discussion about a woman being sexually harassed to say she wouldn't have complained if the man who harassed her was better looking?
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totalnerdken posted...
Yes, but his fans would be relentless in attacking those women, saying stuff like they're purposely targetting innocent people. Which is inaccurate.

He absolutely should call out people who are engaging in false accusations. But it would be a lot better if he at least showed the understanding as well as made clear that when he's saying "false accusations", he's not referring to them purposely going after someone they know is innocent.

I think there's a bit of a disconnect, here, since in today's day and age, if somebody purposely posts a video on like, TikTok, it legitimately does feel like they're seeking attention, which comes off as malicious, and I think that's what Joey attacks. It feels like if somebody legitimately felt like they were being perved on, their first instinct wouldn't be to... Make a TikTok video out of it?

Obviously, this doesn't apply across the board, but I do get the feeling of... If somebody's first reaction was to make a TikTok video out of something that feels like an incredibly suspect accusation, to begin with... Yeah, it does feel kinda malicious.
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waterjoe posted...
Lets be REAL honest if these two women weres uper hot instagram models with a million followers each, I bet you dude would have showed off and tried to get their number. Pluse the gym wouldn't have banned them.

This is a dumb post, and you should feel dumb.
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totalnerdken posted...
This might be a different way of thinking. You could be right, but I just don't feel like that's enough evidence to conclude the women were purposely trying to get people to look for the purpose of calling them out. People stretch at the gym. It's normal. I've seen most of his vids and I'd say in none that I remember, did I feel like I had enough evidence to say they're purposely doing anything malicious.

Well, yeah. I agree there's not enough evidence in either direction.

I'm just saying a lot of the ones I remember him calling out would be ones who basically had Tiktok accounts full of videos that were "omg look at this guy looking at me at the gym!" and the guy like, doesn't actually even look at her. In cases like that, it's a bit tougher to believe they legitimately feel they were being stared at, when their Tiktok account has like, 30 videos of such "encounters."
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waterjoe posted...
Lets be REAL honest if these two women weres uper hot instagram models with a million followers each, I bet you dude would have showed off and tried to get their number. Pluse the gym wouldn't have banned them.
I mean the same thing happens the other way around, I'm sure there's some women out there that wouldn't mind getting their asses slapped in the gym especially if the guy who did was hot and rich... but that doesn't mean a damn thing. Those instances are incredibly rare and doesn't justify slapping someone who really doesn't want to be a part of sexual assault. Please stop the nonsense man. Be better
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Bad apples spoil the bunch. People get suspicious of these videos because every once in awhile you hear about somebody intentionally causing problems. A year ago or so there was an influencer who tried to call out a guy for staring at her, and she only posted half the video. Well the guy in question ended up posting the whole video soon after, and it was a security video, because he was an actual employee at the gym, and he had only looked her way because she had made a loud fuss before she started recording. He revealed she had been kicked out of the gym for being confrontational and causing problems. That one actually made the news, and since the false accusations often do make the news, it poisons the well.
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totalnerdken posted...
I remember one of his more recent vids, like maybe last 3-4 months, where the woman's account was something along the lines of this. Where like every other post is her calling out random dudes. That one definitely felt sus. But overwhelmingly, from what I've observed at least, this doesn't seem to be the norm.

Fair enough. I don't watch Joey Swoll often, his stuff sometimes comes up in my Shorts list, so maybe I only see the more egregious ones. Dudebusters probably has it right about poisoning the well, in this case.

EDIT: And, to be fair, half the time the Shorts of his that come up are calling out guys, too, so maybe I've grown to thinking he's more unbiased than he may actually be.
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Homeless_Waifu posted...
Fair 100%
if the same rules apply for men, then the same should apply for women.

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totalnerdken posted...
Yeah, it feels like we're like 95% on the same page. Just different views on Joey himself or something like that.

And yeah, it just takes 1 or 2 examples of malicious behaviour to ruin everything for people who aren't malicious.

Yeah, we're not really disagreeing. Point taken that calling him the "Anti-Andrew Tate" was probably a bit far.
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totalnerdken posted...
You know, I totally lost the plot in that post and forgot why I didn't agree with that.

It feels to me like his most aggressive and rabid fans will also likely be Andrew Tate fans. That was the point I was getting too then totally forgot lol.

You're probably not wrong, but also I feel like that's not necessarily his fault. Fans of Andrew Tate are going to take his videos a certain way no matter what his actual intentions are.
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