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JaiCSC
04/24/2024
02:33 PM
#1
Curious to see what people think.
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ClayGuida
04/24/2024
02:34 PM
#2
oof
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SHRlKE
04/24/2024
02:35 PM
#3
Never got the hate for the LOST ending. It was predominantly a character show so thought that ending was perfect personally.
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ClayGuida
04/24/2024
02:39 PM
#4
SHRlKE posted...
It was predominantly a character show so thought that ending was perfect personally.
Always hated this bullshit.

Nobody watched the show for Jack or Kate, they watched for the mystery of the Island.

If this show was set in New York City without any mystery, then it would have been canceled immediately.
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Baron_Ox
04/24/2024
02:40 PM
#5
SHRlKE posted...
Never got the hate for the LOST ending. It was predominantly a character show so thought that ending was perfect personally.
how I felt.

I won't say it's a GOAT show, but it's one of my favorite, and I liked the ending.
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SHRlKE
04/24/2024
02:41 PM
#6
ClayGuida posted...
Always hated this bullshit.

Nobody watched the show for Jack or Kate, they watched for the mystery of the Island.

If this show was set in New York City without any mystery, then it would have been canceled immediately.

Cant it be both?

Oh. Are you the guy that doesnt understand opinions and think your opinion is the only one that matters / is more valid than someone elses?
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UndefeatedGOAT
04/24/2024
02:42 PM
#7
ClayGuida posted...
Always hated this bullshit.

Nobody watched the show for Jack or Kate, they watched for the mystery of the Island.

If this show was set in New York City without any mystery, then it would have been canceled immediately.

oh god i actually agree with you on something

I think I need to reevaluate my whole life
ClayGuida
04/24/2024
02:42 PM
#8
SHRlKE posted...
Cant it be both?

Oh. Are you the guy that doesnt understand opinions and think your opinion is the only one that matters / is more valid than someone elses?
When people make bad statements like you did, I feel he need to shit on it, because it's nonsensical.

It wasn't predominantly a character show, because if it was, it'd just be called Party of 5. Not LOST.
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Xatrion
04/24/2024
02:43 PM
#9
Which one has copious amounts of sex and gratuitous nudity? That one.
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SHRlKE
04/24/2024
02:46 PM
#10
ClayGuida posted...
When people make bad statements like you did, I feel he need to shit on it, because it's nonsensical.

It wasn't predominantly a character show, because if it was, it'd just be called Party of 5. Not LOST.

You seem to have taken my comments personally. Im not discounting the mystery side. Thats the glue that holds everything together. But its used as a framework for the character side. Like most decent shows are tbh. Theres a reason 50% of every episode is dedicated to flashbacks etc flushing out everyones character.

The mystery is what draws you in but without the character work it wouldnt be anywhere near as successful as it was.

Just to reiterate Im not discounting the mystery side at all.
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SauI_Goodman
04/24/2024
02:47 PM
#11
Lol @ lost winning despite the writers admitting they got lost themselves and wrote themselves into a hole.
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UndefeatedGOAT
04/24/2024
02:48 PM
#12
SauI_Goodman posted...
Lol @ lost winning despite the writers admitting they got lost themselves and wrote themselves into a hole.

contemporary > fantasy
SHRlKE
04/24/2024
02:48 PM
#13
SauI_Goodman posted...
Lol @ lost winning despite the writers admitting they got lost themselves and wrote themselves into a hole.

Yes the quality definitely dipped the last few seasons when they decided to abandon the character side and go more out with the mystery side. I think it all came together in the end though. Season 3 is probably the peak.
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masterpug53
04/24/2024
03:00 PM
#14
SauI_Goodman posted...
Lol @ lost winning despite the writers admitting they got lost themselves and wrote themselves into a hole.

At least they admitted to bad writing instead of blaming it on their characters, i.e. "Dany forgot about the Iron Fleet."
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Xethuminra
04/24/2024
03:02 PM
#15
I'm a Lost fan

but I have qualms voting against GoT in this capacity. Why pit the two against each other anyway? Id suggest Lost vs Twin Peaks, but it would, well, lose

Lost vs X-Files?

Tbh, always kinda viewed GoT as a guilty pleasure. Find the fandom confusing
EndOfDiscOne
04/24/2024
03:05 PM
#16
Lost had a weak final season, but a great ending.

It's final season is still far better than GoT's.
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Nirvanas_Nox
04/24/2024
03:06 PM
#17
Going with Game of Thrones. The ending wasn't satisfying at all but it was still better then Lost. It was such a bullshit ending
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SHRlKE
04/24/2024
03:07 PM
#18
Nirvanas_Nox posted...
Going with Game of Thrones. The ending wasn't satisfying at all but it was still better then Lost. It was such a bullshit ending

What was so bad about the ending in your opinion?
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EndOfDiscOne
04/24/2024
03:07 PM
#19
ClayGuida posted...
Nobody watched the show for Jack or Kate, they watched for the mystery of the Island.

I watched for the mystery, but the most satisfying parts of the show in the end were Jack's and Locke's character arcs. I agree on Kate, though.
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Nirvanas_Nox
04/24/2024
03:13 PM
#20
SHRlKE posted...
What was so bad about the ending in your opinion?

Mostly that flash sideways bullshit they did. It was insanely stupid. Then the fact that everyone was already dead. Dumb. I didn't mind the show up till the season before. I felt like I wasted my time watching that last season.
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Xethuminra
04/24/2024
03:15 PM
#21
Nirvanas_Nox posted...
Mostly that flash sideways bullshit they did. It was insanely stupid. Then the fact that everyone was already dead. Dumb. I didn't mind the show up till the season before. I felt like I wasted my time watching that last season.
Doesn't it sort of leave the original mystery of the island unsolved if they were in an alternate reality/afterlife ?

hmm.
Nirvanas_Nox
04/24/2024
03:16 PM
#22
Xethuminra posted...
Doesn't it sort of leave the original mystery of the island unsolved if they were in an alternate reality/afterlife ?

hmm.

Yes and that's thr part the really bugs me. It felt unfinished and I HATE that feeling. It's like when a show ends on a cliffhanger and then it gets canceled (example of this is a lot of Netflix shows)
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vycebrand2
04/24/2024
03:19 PM
#23
SauI_Goodman posted...
Lol @ lost winning despite the writers admitting they got lost themselves and wrote themselves into a hole.
They wrote themselves into a hole the first season. Get it? Ok I'll show myself out. Remember to tip your waitresses.
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EmbraceOfDeath
04/24/2024
03:21 PM
#25
SauI_Goodman posted...
Lol @ lost winning despite the writers admitting they got lost themselves and wrote themselves into a hole.
And it still managed to be infinitely better than the garbage fire that was the Game of Thrones ending.
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04/24/2024
01:03 PM
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Xethuminra
04/24/2024
03:29 PM
#27
Nirvanas_Nox posted...
Yes and that's thr part the really bugs me. It felt unfinished and I HATE that feeling. It's like when a show ends on a cliffhanger and then it gets canceled (example of this is a lot of Netflix shows)
Maybe they intended for the fans to piece it together many years later

how interesting could the truth possibly be tho? I think there were probably numerous possible plotlines (Jack as the villain, Locke as the villain, Kate as the villain, Sawyer as the villain, etc) which more or less became more and more impossible as the show went on, from Season 1 onward actually. Sounds like great material for a documentary but I feel I'm now beginning to tread ground already thoroughly covered

A mysterious force at the center of the island

Maybe it was supposed to be a spaceship after all, with a control room, a key, all buried in the rock, reflecting the various arcs of the show as one :)
Xethuminra
04/24/2024
03:40 PM
#28
Spaceship/time machine

with the teleporter wired to do whatever weirdness it was doing, instead of simply being for beaming on/off the ship

*Shrug*
Kaldrenthebold
04/24/2024
03:41 PM
#29
Might as well throw Dexter og run in this while you're at it
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FL81
04/24/2024
03:42 PM
#30
I haven't even seen Lost, but GoT's writing was swirling the toilet bowl for most of the second half, long before the finale.
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Xethuminra
04/24/2024
03:44 PM
#31
Half-Life 1/2?
Zeeak4444
04/24/2024
03:47 PM
#32
ClayGuida posted...
Always hated this bullshit.

Nobody watched the show for Jack or Kate, they watched for the mystery of the Island.

If this show was set in New York City without any mystery, then it would have been canceled immediately.

youre objectively wrong. Also likely the reason Damon Lindelof and Jonathan Nolan went way out of their way to be as clear as possible to people that the leftovers was also a character driven show and the mystery just supplements that.
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TendoDRM
04/24/2024
03:51 PM
#33
Lost had a great finale and the show never really fell off anyway.

GoT had an atrocious final season and awful last 4 seasons.
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DarthAragorn
04/24/2024
03:52 PM
#34
Lost's plot went to complete shit by the end but the characters were still for the most part well written.

The last half of Game of Thrones had neither good plot nor well written characters.
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EndOfDiscOne
04/24/2024
04:10 PM
#35
Xethuminra posted...
Doesn't it sort of leave the original mystery of the island unsolved if they were in an alternate reality/afterlife ?

hmm.
No? It was only the flash sideways that was the afterlife. Everything on the island was "real life."
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Xethuminra
04/24/2024
04:15 PM
#36
EndOfDiscOne posted...
No? It was only the flash sideways that was the afterlife. Everything on the island was "real life."
Exactly

Which ended in the cave, right? It still leaves the story unsolved, no? The characters' arcs are closed, but not the island's?
UndefeatedGOAT
04/24/2024
04:17 PM
#37
Xethuminra posted...
Exactly

Which ended in the cave, right? It still leaves the story unsolved, no? The characters' arcs are closed, but not the island's?


the island isnt an afterlife?
Xethuminra
04/24/2024
04:19 PM
#38
UndefeatedGOAT posted...
the island isnt an afterlife?
Like Silent Hill?
EndOfDiscOne
04/24/2024
04:22 PM
#39
Xethuminra posted...
Exactly

Which ended in the cave, right? It still leaves the story unsolved, no? The characters' arcs are closed, but not the island's?

What was left open? Jack sacrificed himself to defeat MiB and put the plug in the hole to keep the electromagnetism and darkness from escaping. Hurley took over as the new protector of the island.
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EndOfDiscOne
04/24/2024
04:22 PM
#40
UndefeatedGOAT posted...
the island isnt an afterlife?
No.
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Deegs
04/24/2024
04:24 PM
#41
I maintain that the plot points GoT wanted to hit on were fine but they were rushed. The showrunners said that George RR Martin had given them the bullet points of what he intended to do with the books and it really felt like that is what happened with Season 7/8. The showrunners had bullet points but didn't have the creative ability, or interest because they had a Star Wars Movie Trilogy at the time waiting for them, to put together the proper connective tissue to get there. The last 3 episodes of GoT felt like it should have been an entire 10 episode season by itself.
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ClayGuida
04/24/2024
04:26 PM
#42
Zeeak4444 posted...
youre objectively wrong. Also likely the reason Damon Lindelof and Jonathan Nolan went way out of their way to be as clear as possible to people that the leftovers was also a character driven show and the mystery just supplements that.
No I'm right.

Not a single person tuned into the premier to see character plots. They tuned it because the marketing pinned it as an Island Mystery.

As I said, they could have put all these same characters in a pub in NYC and not a single person would have watched it.

As for the Leftovers, you understood from the start that it was never about why anything happened, but what happened because of it. I believe there's even narration in the Pilot that explicitly states this.
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Xethuminra
04/24/2024
04:27 PM
#43
EndOfDiscOne posted...
What was left open? Jack sacrificed himself to defeat MiB and put the plug in the hole to keep the electromagnetism and darkness from escaping. Hurley took over as the new protector of the island.
Imma think on it

Might have to rewatch the show. Not sure you *quite* addressed what I said tho :)
UndefeatedGOAT
04/24/2024
04:28 PM
#44
Xethuminra posted...
Like Silent Hill?

idk silent hill
bigblu89
04/24/2024
04:39 PM
#45
ClayGuida posted...
No I'm right.

Not a single person tuned into the premier to see character plots. They tuned it because the marketing pinned it as an Island Mystery.

How a show/movie is marketed and what it ends up being are not always the same thing.

YOU wanted the show to be the mystery of the island and consider it a "bad" show becasue it didn't turn out to be what YOU wanted.
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apocalyptic_4
04/24/2024
04:41 PM
#46
The last few seasons of GOT have ruined the show as a whole.

LOST however has at least maintained its quality throughout its run and on re watches the show gets better especially the ending.

LOST is top 5 of all time for great television, GOT is unwatchable after season 5.
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thronedfire2
04/24/2024
04:44 PM
#47
eh, about the same. Lost had a good finale, but it had worse sections early on in the show while GoT was basically perfect.

also some of the dialogue in Lost is just really bad rewatching it recently

I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen...
garan
04/24/2024
04:49 PM
#48
I hated the last season of Lost, but the finale was passable. Everything about season 8 of GoT was terrible, especially the finale.
Xethuminra
04/24/2024
04:53 PM
#49
8 day old article on the ending to Lost

https://www.themarysue.com/lost-ending-explained/

Might be trending as a topic?

Does it make sense for them to be in an afterlife? Does each season represent a symbol and then reincarnated?
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