What's the general consensus on Michael Jackson?

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Even though there was absolutely NO EVIDENCE of him being a p****phile, do you still view him as The King Of Pop (as I do), do you just simply listen to his music if its on the radio or have you never liked him (for some bizarre reason)?

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Love his music. Hes definitely the king of pop. Annoys me a lot when Swifties bring up him or the Beatles as if Taylor Swift is more revolutionary or popular than either.
He's all alone through the day and night.
Doesn't matter how people view him as a pedo or not, the general consensus is despite whatever he did at home, he will still be the greatest entertainer of the 20th century.
Lots and lots of classics, obviously one of the greats for most of his career, even as a kid. Dangerous was a big step down though, while still good, and I cant think of anything I like of his after that era

too much conflicting evidence for me to have an opinion on his personal life
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Why did he do weird pelvic thrusting moves throughout his videos especially that way you make me feel video, but then also go around and say he's a kid at heart and like to hang out with kids? Those 2 actions are incompatible, one is not like the other.

That's the only thing that bothered me in the 2000s that I used to wonder about.
No evidence except the testimony of the people he molested?
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There's just way too goddamned much smoke for me to ever believe he wasn't a pedophile.

His influence on music and entertainment is also undeniable.

But I do think he was a pedophile.
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Doe posted...
No evidence except the testimony of the people he molested?


This--there's plenty of evidence that he was a fucking creepy pervert.
King of Pop for sure. There will never be another one like him. Such a shame he ruined his face with all the surgeries, as I thought his black and white timeline was as close to perfection a person could get look wise. It went downhill from 1992.
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I think he was an incredible artist, but I also think his behaviors with children were very concerning, (no matter what was proven in a court), to the point where I wouldn't have at all felt comfortable leaving children alone with him. I don't turn off the radio or anything if his music comes on though.
But there was always this question floating around about whether MJ or Prince was ultimately better. Prince definitely comes out on top for me.
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Like, if his movement wasn't so weird and sexualized, I wouldn't think anything of him sharing a bed with random stranger's kids that are not his own. But it's the grabbing crotch shots that make me frown tbh when compounded on top of that.
The GOAT and he was innocent.
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He was a child molester who could sing and dance really good.
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I consider some of his music to be pretty good. Pretty eccentric guy, but that's no surprise considering it's lonely at the top, and he objectively was at the top.
He has been in awkward situations concerning minors (not just the molestation allegations but also stuff like lifting his baby child over the balcony to show off to the press), but as a rule of thumb I'll let actual judges be the literal judge of such things.
One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls.
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Definitely a weirdo at minimum but he also made three of the best albums ever in my opinion (Off the Wall, Thriller, Bad)
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Sure, he might have touched some children, but the man is a great singer! /s outhpark
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He'll always be the king of pop.

I honestly don't know what to believe when it comes to the allegations.
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His music slaps.
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This isn't TikTok. You can type the word "pedophile".
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mario2000 posted...
This isn't TikTok. You can type the word "pedophile".
Looool I thought it was a gamefaqs thing not a personal conscious choice done by the tc
alien ant farm's version of smooth criminal is better than the original + michael jackson probably molested children

that is the general consensus
@Mario2000 @Revisited I didn't think the word 'paedophile' (UK spelling) was allowed on this site.
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A lot of people assume calling him a pedophile means he raped children. And it's true, there's no evidence of that. However there is very strong evidence of him doing weird, extremely inappropriate things with kids. The question is whether he took things to the point where they were illegal. Especially in the 1980s, when laws about that thing were a lot less strict and a lot more ambiguous.

His music was great, obviously, some of the best of all time.
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I mean, he doesn't have to be a pedo to be a weirdo. That was far from the only thing he got negative attention for.

But anyway, he was one of the greatest entertainers of the 20th century, or even #1.
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Good music with pedo tendencies. Glad I can separate art from artist
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Doe posted...
No evidence except the testimony of the people he molested?
"Testimony" isn't proof; It's just one person's word against another.

Evidence?
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radical_rhino posted...
He was a child molester who could sing and dance really good.

Evidence?
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Asherlee10 posted...
It's just weird that some people believe this.

What's weird is people believing he did when there's not a SHRED of evidence.
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KanWan posted...
Wouldve been a great Mortal Kombat character tbh
He was great in ready 2 rumble
Dakimakura posted...
What is Michael Jackson's pronouns?

King
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lilORANG posted...
Good music with pedo tendencies. Glad I can separate art from artist

Evidence?

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LeighDappa posted...
Evidence?
Is this all you wanted from this topic?
Good music, likes to see little boys speak their cheeks.
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Sheiky-Baby posted...
King of Pop for sure. There will never be another one like him. Such a shame he ruined his face with all the surgeries, as I thought his black and white timeline was as close to perfection a person could get look wise. It went downhill from 1992.

He probably had a lot of trauma from his dad who abused him physically and mentally (called him fat nose). Its got to be the reason he did so much work on his face.

As for the pedo things. Im not sure. His own childhood which he didnt have much of since he was performing from a young age probably fucked him up lots and he may not have gotten the help he needed.
MICHALECOLE posted...
Is this all you wanted from this topic?

No but since people are 110% convinced he did it, I just thought I'd ask for the proof but even now as I type, NONE has been provided!

It's almost as if he didn't do what they say he did...
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I suppose he was greatest pop singer. Things I've heard aside from that career not good. Hear say is crazy but some things like the Ranch didn't help Michael's case
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LeighDappa posted...
No but since people are 110% convinced he did it, I just thought I'd ask for the proof but even now as I type, NONE has been provided!

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't proof of anything. All I need is basic common sense to know that letting little kids have unattended sleepovers with MJ was a bad fucking idea.
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LeighDappa posted...
"Testimony" isn't proof; It's just one person's word against another.

Evidence?
Testimony is evidence. It is literally the most commonly presented evidence.
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People still believe that he was a pedophile?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense.
he probably shouldn't have Lion King'd the baby like that
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LeighDappa posted...
Evidence?

wasn't he sleeping in beds with children?
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A kid literally described the vitiligo on his penis. Wtf is this MJ denialism?!
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