SE were the ones who kicked off the 70USD game bullshit, too.The price of games going up a little bit after literal decades at a consistent price is not bullshit.
Are people really complaining about game development time post-covidYes hell people keep making this poor joke too.
This is why I'm waiting for the PS7 Final Fantasy VII Complete Intergrade 2.8 Final Mix ReReRemaster Definitive Edition.
The price of games going up a little bit after literal decades at a consistent price is not bullshit.Sure it is. It only happened because game publishers overexpanded during the pandemic and didn't think there would be back swing. They laid people off en masse, failed to reign in runaway budgets, and passed the buck to the consumer when their tiny pea brains couldn't see another way out.
The price of games going up a little bit after literal decades at a consistent price is not bullshit.
It is when you consider how many more people buy games. FF7 sold 2 million units in its opening weekend and 10 million units over the next 8 years. In comparison, FF7:R sold 3.5 million units in its opening weekend and has sold 7 million units in its first 3 years.This is the key point. Publishers have been nickel and diming for decades. Its utterly ludicrous to listen to EA crying crocodile tears over games needing to cost $10 more when they make literal billions off FIFA microtransactions alone.
So FF7 at $50 made $100M it's opening weekend and FF7:R at $70 made $245M. FF7R has made $490M so far compared to 7's $500M... Nearly the same amount in 1/3 the time. So potentially the remake could end up with sales around $1.5B if it trends similarly over the next 6 years.
FF7 cost $40M to make. FF7:R cost $200M, so just on dev costs you're looking at square having $460M left over vs $1.3B. they're potentially taking home a billion more dollars after the price hike even when you factor in development costs .
And that's without consideration for dlc, micro transactions, premium currencies, battle passes, in-game advertising, product tie-ins, etc.
Reminder: IF this was Capcom we would be at the 3rd game by now, and also each and every individual game would've been better too.
Reminder: IF this was Capcom we would be at the 3rd game by now, and also each and every individual game would've been better too.
Reminder: IF this was Capcom we would be at the 3rd game by now, and also each and every individual game would've been better too.
^Ultimately, I think the biggest problem with this is the investors. Like sure, CEOs are wanting to make as much money as possible, but part of it is pleasing investors. If companies aren't growing significantly and making exhorbitant amounts of money at all times, investors panic and that means bad news for the company as a result. That's also why layoffs happen so that investors can be pleased for the short term.The problem is that publicly traded corporations are basically legally obligated to always grow by any means necessary.
It's a system that needs to either be reformed or to stop, honestly. Otherwise it's gonna cause the AAA market to crash.
The problem is that publicly traded corporations are basically legally obligated to always grow by any means necessary.Yeah...it's unfortunate.
The reason I trust Valve with my game library and not any of the others is that Valve is a private company without any shareholders to please.
The price of games going up a little bit after literal decades at a consistent price is not bullshit.Yes it is because youre getting less for your money these days than you used to. Very little QA (or pretty much none in cases like Bethesda), cut content for them to sell it back to you as day 1 on disk DLC, etc
Yes it is because youre getting less for your money these days than you used to.Im sorry, you get less for your money today than from Super Nintendo games? Thats just ridiculous.
Im sorry, you get less for your money today than from Super Nintendo games? Thats just ridiculous.Super Nintendo games that released in a complete, tested and QAed state that dont need to sell you additional DLC to get the complete experience. No, you are being outrageous
Super Nintendo games that released in a complete, tested and QAed state that dont need to sell you additional DLC to get the complete experience. No, you are being outrageousThat also describes an absolute fuck ton of games that come out today. Youre being outrageous to claim otherwise.
That also describes an absolute fuck ton of games that come out today. Youre being outrageous to claim otherwise.name them
name themFF7 Remake lmao
FF7 Remake lmaoa playtested game with a fair amount of QA released with few bugs? the dlc for it came out later after release? refer to post 116
As a Nintendo nerd, and I know I'm a minority here, I don't like the idea of wasting resources on a ground up remake of TTYD. I'm not a big fan of the game to begin with, but a remake is completely unnecessary and lazy. But at least it's the full damn game.FF7 Remake is a full game
FF7 Remake is a full game
Super Nintendo games that released in a complete, tested and QAed state that dont need to sell you additional DLC to get the complete experience. No, you are being outrageousMortal Kombat 3, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, Mortal Kombat Trilogy. Then there's the Street Fighter series. You had to buy the entire game over to get updates.
Mortal Kombat 3, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, Mortal Kombat Trilogy. Then there's the Street Fighter series. You had to buy the entire game over to get updates.Yep and there was Final Fight and you had to buy Final Fight Guy if you wanted to play Guy instead of Cody LMAO. And let's not get started with Genesis and their Sonic and Knuckles add on bullshit too.
Mortal Kombat 3, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, Mortal Kombat Trilogy. Then there's the Street Fighter series. You had to buy the entire game over to get updates.Fighting games sure but not RPGs..
Fighting games sure but not RPGs..https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/14c7ec70.jpg
Fighting games sure but not RPGs..This is actually an interesting discussion point. Its pretty inarguable that you get more time for your dollar in RPGs now, but theres an argument to be made that most of that time is pointless bullshit that isnt fun and is only there to pad the game and punish completionists.
Capcom did that alot though.
Super Nintendo games that released in a complete, tested and QAed state that dont need to sell you additional DLC to get the complete experience. No, you are being outrageous
Same people from 4-5 years ago complaining about FF7 and its development cycle.Personally I'll just wait for sales and get the entire trilogy for the price of one game, because that's what it's worth to me. The pacing is awful and the remake was full of half measures in the story, too scared to stand on its own merit, and not quite doing away with the original to pander to nostalgia so its mistakes will all be forgiven, while SE is stuck in a love affair trying to apply FFXIVs magic to single player games, missing the forest for the trees.
JFC get over it, $200 over 8 years is absolutely nothing, if its that big of a deal wait for the inevitable trilogy release for $100 or whatever.
while everyone else has enjoyed the series.
Ive never seen anyone ever try and argue the cost of buying a series of games.
Lol utter nonsense. Yall on one.
How about you stop finalizing some fantasies and start finalizing some job applications.
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FF7 Remake is a full gameThat's some hard copium
That's some hard copiumI don't see how when I see facts in front of me.
I don't see how when I see facts in front of me.Calls the game remake.
Part 1 of a trilogy does not mean it isn't a full game.
Calls the game remake.Still a 30 hour game, and it's not the same version as the original, it's an adaptation doing its own thing. The bait and switch at the end was sure to piss off some people but it's ridiculous to not call it a full game.
Gives the player an eighth of the original.