i don't see what SS has to do with FFVII, but yeah it was also playtested, obviously. I was actually part of the public playtest.So you were party to a public beta, doesn't mean you contribute anything of worth. Or if you did, thanks for the turd of a game that came out (I'm being sarcastic I know you really didn't have any say in the game dev.)
like what, placing a random ladder in the environment like that other guy suggested? magic ladder going up the cliff to exactly where you need to go, hw is that any better or worse than some yellow paint?
any solution you can come up with will just be another way to guide the player that is no different from yellow paint.
I doubt they hide load times given they often take much longer than any of the actual loading screensIt's actually a very common loading trick that is used to maintain continuity instead of cutting to a loading screen
*party sees faintly glowing ledges*That seems more of a stupid line of reasons given the nature of Mako
Cloud: "Aerith, do you know what that is?"
Aerith: "That's Mako."
Cloud: "Why is it here?"
Aerith: "Maybe it's guiding us?"
Problem solved. In game life accurate and sense making reason why the edges could be highlighted.
That's at least one thing FF16 does better.Yeah, I would take a UI marker over that eyesore honestly.
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Yeah, I would take a UI marker over that eyesore honestly.How dare the color yellow exist?
How dare the color yellow exist?I like yellow.
I like yellow.Really not
The idea that there are painted cliff ledges that clash with everything else is just fucking idiotic though.
That seems more of a stupid line of reasons given the nature of MakoYou mean the knowledge of all the people who have previously lived, who are trying to stop Sephiroth, guiding someone who can actively commune with them? What's dumb about that? Besides, mako springs from the ground all the time.
I had a thought. I dunno if there are other painted ledges in Rebirth, but perhaps they actually are painted that way in-lore because it's supposed to be a directed path through Mt. Nibel up to the reactor.Doubtful since they get washed off the main path halfway up the mountain and have to find a new way up. Otherwise that would work.
If painted ledges remain in other places then that shoots down that idea.
You mean the knowledge of all the people who have previously lived, who are trying to stop Sephiroth, guiding someone who can actively commune with them? What's dumb about that? Besides, mako springs from the ground all the time.
Can't be dumber than some mysterious force spraypainting seemingly random ledges around the world. Ones that just happen to be exactly where the party needs to go.
You mean the knowledge of all the people who have previously lived, who are trying to stop Sephiroth, guiding someone who can actively commune with them? What's dumb about that? Besides, mako springs from the ground all the time.I mean having the life blood of the planet just randomly seeping out to guide them is really stupid yes. Also rock formations arent all browns and greys you know?
Can't be dumber than some mysterious force spraypainting seemingly random ledges around the world. Ones that just happen to be exactly where the party needs to go.
They could have also used something like moss, or plant life, or small creatures scrambling up the rock face. Yellow paint works in industrial settings where you can show a bucket that's tipped over, but as you said you can absolutely have a visual indicator in the environment that works within the context of the environment without having to rely on yellow paint.Exactly, the Mako idea was just in case they felt like needed some sort of highlight on them. Instead of ugly yellow paint they could just faintly glow and still fit in with the lore and environment of the game, and could easily be explained away with a simple comment like I posted above.
Really notAlright, give me an explanation to any time you've seen a painted cliff in the world in a non decorative or non warning fashion.
Alright, give me an explanation to any time you've seen a painted cliff in the world in a non decorative or non warning fashion.Apparently, there's a species of lichen that often grows on rocks that looks remarkably like the "yellow paint" in the game, so maybe it's supposed to be that?
Or give me a plausible reason for it to exist in the game world.
If it's NOT stupid, should be easy to do.
I mean having the life blood of the planet just randomly seeping out to guide them is really stupid yes. Also rock formations arent all browns and greys you know?I didn't mention the color of the rocks, but I did mention having various different natural indicators based on the environment. Like vines in a forest, moss of cliffs, rust and pipes for industrial settings.
Apparently, there's a species of lichen that often grows on rocks that looks remarkably like the "yellow paint" in the game, so maybe it's supposed to be that?I have seen that, it has a pretty distinct texture even from a ways off. Also climbing on to a rather wet looking lichen covered cliff ledge is a good way to end up with your brains on the outside of your head, so that would be a poorly thought reason, but I'll give on that one. Solid possibility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthoria_parietina
Alright, give me an explanation to any time you've seen a painted cliff in the world in a non decorative or non warning fashion.Cant provide it, doesnt mean its not stupid to have some sort of indication. You never know in that world how many people have traversed the land and left markers for trails. Complaining about a non issue is the silliest thing gamers do.
Or give me a plausible reason for it to exist in the game world.
If it's NOT stupid, should be easy to do.
Apparently, there's a species of lichen that often grows on rocks that looks remarkably like the "yellow paint" in the game, so maybe it's supposed to be that?Cloud: "Aeris, why is maritime Lichen growing in the middle of a city surrounded by barren wastes?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthoria_parietina
Cant provide it, doesnt mean its not stupid to have some sort of indication. You never know in that world how many people have traversed the land and left markers for trails. Complaining about a non issue is the silliest thing gamers do.I've explored quite a bit and never seen a painted cliff ledge. I can't think of many people that would be hiking or climbing and carrying paint either unless for an art piece.
I've explored quite a bit and never seen a painted cliff ledge. I can't think of many people that would be hiking or climbing and carrying paint either unless for an art piece.Probably because in the real world its likely frowned upon to deface natural formations regardless of existing for rock climbing or not.
Didn't say they couldn't have an indicator, just saying the way they did it was exceptionally bad.
That's at least one thing FF16 does better.
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Alright, give me an explanation to any time you've seen a painted cliff in the world in a non decorative or non warning fashion.
Or give me a plausible reason for it to exist in the game world.
If it's NOT stupid, should be easy to do.
I can understand not thinking the paint is a big deal, but I dont get simping for the paint. Its just so ugly.No one is simping for paint its just that no one gives two shits about it to cause that much outrage over what is basically a design choice to help players.
It's actually a very common loading trick that is used to maintain continuity instead of cutting to a loading screenAgain, they often take longer than a loading screen anyway. I'd rather the screen.
Its a shame that this discourse is focusing on the paint and not the fact that games should just get rid of these useless climbing sections in general.That's what I was thinking.
*party sees faintly glowing ledges*
Cloud: "Aerith, do you know what that is?"
Aerith: "That's Mako."
Cloud: "Why is it here?"
Aerith: "Maybe it's guiding us?"
Problem solved. In game life accurate and sense making reason why the edges could be highlighted.
I think there is a 'Follow the mako' button mechanic for the open world sectionOh, I didn't know that. So it's not even as much if a stretch as I thought. There's really no reason they couldn't have just don't that then.
Oh, I didn't know that. So it's not even as much if a stretch as I thought. There's really no reason they couldn't have just don't that then.Yeah let's Nano Machine up this game.
Isn't the game quasi open world in certain sections? A random assortment of glowing ledges probably wouldn't look great.They could only start once you get close. Unlike the glaring ugly splashes of yellow flung around on everything as it is.
They could only start once you get close. Unlike the glaring ugly splashes of yellow flung around on everything as it is.
That's at least one thing FF16 does better.
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do the bodies disappear