At this point do you differentiate between a Trump voter and Trump enabler?

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Current Events » At this point do you differentiate between a Trump voter and Trump enabler?
Enabler being someone aware of the issues but choosing to vote 3rd party or not at all because they disagree with something.
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A cultist is brainwashed.

An enabler is letting perfection be the enemy of good.
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less.
If you haven't done anything to get the laws changed so he can't run, you're an enabler too.
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There's barely a difference at this point.

Either you're complicit in fascism or you're a proponent of it. Culpable either way.
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K181 posted...
A cultist is brainwashed.

An enabler is letting perfection be the enemy of good.

After Roe vs Wade got overturned I didn't see a reason to differentiate going forward.
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K181 posted...
A cultist is brainwashed.

An enabler is letting perfection be the enemy of good.
Yeah, this about sums it up right here.
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Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
all those countries with 1-party systems sure are doing stellar right now aren't they
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mystic_belmont posted...
In the end, the results are the same.

Came to say this.
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To the extent that I don't think Trump's non-voting enablers are actively trying to kill people, while his voters are increasingly proving to be dangerous psychopaths who shouldn't be trusted with a bowl of Jell-O (to say nothing of their gigantic gun hoards or their disproportionately-high amount of political power), yes.

But "not voting for wannabe-Hitler" isn't exactly a high bar to clear, and nobody should get a medal for not tripping and falling on that bar.
SpawnShadow posted...
To the extent that I don't think Trump's non-voting enablers are actively trying to kill people, while his voters are increasingly proving to be dangerous psychopaths who shouldn't be trusted with a bowl of Jell-O (to say nothing of their gigantic gun hoards or their disproportionately-high amount of political power), yes.

But "not voting for wannabe-Hitler" isn't exactly a high bar to clear, and nobody should get a medal for not tripping and falling on that bar.

But it's not a deal breaker either
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Naysaspace posted...
all those countries with 1-party systems sure are doing stellar right now aren't they
And what is your response to the republican party following those one party nation's "How to" books to the letter?

Just kidding, I already know you support it.
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Anyone who seriously is still undecided is probably more out of touch than one of Trumps MAGA people.
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Naysaspace posted...
all those countries with 1-party systems sure are doing stellar right now aren't they
Not really a good argument when one of the two parties tried to overturn a fair election and end democracy.
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Naysaspace posted...
all those countries with 1-party systems sure are doing stellar right now aren't they

"people shit talk the US but it's still better than those dictatorships in South America and Africa!"
Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
Dark_Arbron posted...
"people shit talk the US but it's still better than those dictatorships in South America and Africa!"
Brazil managed to legally bar Bolsonaro from running for public office so theyve got that on America.
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divot1338 posted...
Brazil managed to legally bar Bolsonaro from running for public office so theyve got that on America.

Touche.
Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
Outside of the internet I dont really inquire about others voting habits.

So I guess Im not really putting anyone into categories as youve described
Naysaspace posted...
all those countries with 1-party systems sure are doing stellar right now aren't they
This is kind of short sighted because some of them legitimately are.

Vietnam, Singapore, Seychelles etc.
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Will_VIII posted...
But it's not a deal breaker either
Nope, it's not. But it does mean they're not the immediate, existential threat to American society and human lives that the Republicans are.
A "Trump voter" just voted for him in 2016.

A "Trump Supporter/Enabler" has continued to support and vote for him ever since 2016 to the present.
The end result is identical, so not much point in distinguishing.

If you want to not be tied to the crazies, don't vote for the fascist.

Full stop.
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DrizztLink posted...
The end result is identical, so not much point in distinguishing.

If you want to not be tied to the crazies, don't vote for the fascist.

Full stop.

Only thing to really add is that people who vote third party at state and national levels are usually idiots. Why are they aiming for the top when they can win at the local levels, make more meaningful changes there, and build their party? Sure, you get a few wins, but they are so far and few in between that trying to win mayor of major cities might be better.

Only way to avoid being called an enable isn't to not vote for Dumbfuck and goons but to vote for the people who can and will win.

Now, if I'm wrong, fine. But someone please educate me.
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Fuck no. A Trump voter is explicitly voting for GOP scapegoats to be murdered, and a Trump enabler is doing fuck all to try to stop GOP scapegoats from being murdered.

It's a textbook distinction without a difference.
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I had a dude accuse me of being an enabler of Trump. I didnt appreciate his rambling so hes on a charitable organizations mailing list complete with donation in his name for helping to save Afghan ally lives.

Its like Ben Franklin said, we all hang together or well hang separately.
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DandyQuackShot posted...
I had a dude accuse me of being an enabler of Trump. I didnt appreciate his rambling so hes on a charitable organizations mailing list complete with donation in his name for helping to save Afghan ally lives.

Its like Ben Franklin said, we all hang together or well hang separately.
Huh??
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Frankly, voting third party or not voting just enables Trump at this point so, no.
In a perfect world, third parties (or a non-fascist GOP) would be viable options, but unfortunately this is reality, and the reality is as ineffective as democrats tend to be anymore, they're at least not actively trying to end democracy and turn the country into a hellscape.
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You are not morally obligated to vote for a genocidaire. You are in fact morally obligated to not do that. You do not need to pick between the lesser of two genocides, you refuse the question. The inaction of not endorsing genocide is always morally superior to the action of endorsing a genocide. If genocide is inevitable then at the very least do not stain your own soul by giving it your stamp of approval. Refusal to vote is a common form of protest in demonstrating lack of support for the actions of a government you believe to be acting against your beliefs, and browbeating people to vote blue no matter who is not a winning long term strategy.

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AND THIS. IS TO POST. EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!!!!!!!
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The only difference these days is that one only votes for Trump and the other will vote for any republican. Because besides that they are the same.
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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX posted...
You are not morally obligated to vote for a genocidaire. You are in fact morally obligated to not do that. You do not need to pick between the lesser of two genocides, you refuse the question. The inaction of not endorsing genocide is always morally superior to the action of endorsing a genocide. If genocide is inevitable then at the very least do not stain your own soul by giving it your stamp of approval. Refusal to vote is a common form of protest in demonstrating lack of support for the actions of a government you believe to be acting against your beliefs, and browbeating people to vote blue no matter who is not a winning long term strategy.

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See this stupid shit right here is how we even got Trump the first time around. That quote from android 16 to Gohan in DBZA is you guys in a nutshell
you think you're better than everyone else, but there you stand: the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs and your rigid pacifism crumbles into bloodstained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns. You were a coward to your last whimper.
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Cynyn posted...
See this stupid shit right here is how we even got Trump the first time around. That quote from android 16 to Gohan in DBZA is you guys in a nutshell
Brilliant
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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX posted...
You are not morally obligated to vote for a genocidaire. You are in fact morally obligated to not do that. You do not need to pick between the lesser of two genocides, you refuse the question. The inaction of not endorsing genocide is always morally superior to the action of endorsing a genocide. If genocide is inevitable then at the very least do not stain your own soul by giving it your stamp of approval. Refusal to vote is a common form of protest in demonstrating lack of support for the actions of a government you believe to be acting against your beliefs, and browbeating people to vote blue no matter who is not a winning long term strategy.

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And the election of Nixon began the right-wing MAGA-diseased shitfest that we're in now, not to mention it opening the door for Reagan to fuck up everything he could get his hands on.

So thank you for proving our point?
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Cynyn posted...
See this stupid shit right here is how we even got Trump the first time around.

We got trump the first round because the dems chose to throw all their weight and power behind nominating geriatric and unlikable shitlibs that swing states didnt like and because electoral politics meant only a few states really mattered like always. Good thing they learned their lesson and that won't happen again! Christ, imagine following the trump presidency and there even being a question of being re-elected. It's going to be really funny if that happens and at least dems can maybe go back to pretending to be an opposition party for a few years until they get in office again.
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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX posted...
dems can maybe go back to pretending to be an opposition party
Can you clarify this
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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX posted...
We got trump the first round because the dems chose to throw all their weight and power behind nominating geriatric and unlikable shitlibs that swing states didnt like and because electoral politics meant only a few states really mattered like always. Good thing they learned their lesson and that won't happen again! Christ, imagine following the trump presidency and there even being a question of being re-elected. It's going to be really funny if that happens and at least dems can maybe go back to pretending to be an opposition party for a few years until they get in office again.
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Someone will equate non-voters to Trump voters but then complain about Biden being compared to Trump.
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I technically do, but I still see them as brainwashed.
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