If you cant afford to pay your employees a living wage then dont start a business.This, only rich people should be starting businesses. Stay in your lane, poor people.
Funny because i wonder if all the people who didnt tip or didnt tip "enough" did not go eat, would the restaurants even make it.
It should be a law at this pointIf you can't pay the rent on your premises, you go out of business.
If you can't pay the rent on your premises, you go out of business.
If you can't pay your suppliers, you go out of business.
If you refuse to pay your employees. Hey, get the customer to do that so they don't feel like poor scum! Make it a law!
I always tip the customary amount, but I will never have anything but contempt for people who think the system isn't exploitative capitalism at its near-worst.
Bring on the 'no way to prevent this' defences.
I agree that the tipping business model is unethical and helps to artificially prop up restaurants that would fail if they didn't have the crutch of underpaid/overworked staff. I agree that it should be done away with and everyone should get a liveable wage, regardless of their work.
That said, we (America) currently live in a country with tipping culture, and until that changes I absolutely agree with TC. It's not the employee's fault that they're underpaid and overworked, and the employee should not be the target of the disgruntled consumer's righteous indignation. Either tip your god damn server or stay home.
When someone says "well the restaurant should pay their workers instead of relying on me to pay them" while eating at the restaurant, that isn't telling the restaurant anything - it's only being a dick to the employees and feeding the machine that lets you act like a classist pos because your server (the one who actually has a right to their righteous indignation) didn't fill your water enough times.
And just to make it clear my argument isn't secretly about me or whatever: I'm fortunate enough to have never had to work a food service job.
To be clear, nothing said on Gamefaqs in the year 2024 actually matters or makes even the tiniest bit of difference in the world.Yes, but we are yelling about real world happenings and ideas, and we all need a chance to vent now and then while we sit at home eating our limited edition chocolate strawberry Cheerios.
We are all just yelling into an empty void.
If you're sad I'm not tipping your bottom of the barrel service, you should try quitting your jobshit post. somebody has to work these jobs otherwise we don't have food service. and they should be paid.
It should be a law at this pointNo. It should be a law that tipping is banned
I agree that the tipping business model is unethical and helps to artificially prop up restaurants that would fail if they didn't have the crutch of underpaid/overworked staff. I agree that it should be done away with and everyone should get a liveable wage, regardless of their work.
That said, we (America) currently live in a country with tipping culture, and until that changes I absolutely agree with TC. It's not the employee's fault that they're underpaid and overworked, and the employee should not be the target of the disgruntled consumer's righteous indignation. Either tip your god damn server or stay home.
When someone says "well the restaurant should pay their workers instead of relying on me to pay them" while eating at the restaurant, that isn't telling the restaurant anything - it's only being a dick to the employees and feeding the machine that lets you act like a classist pos because your server (the one who actually has a right to their righteous indignation) didn't fill your water enough times.
And just to make it clear my argument isn't secretly about me or whatever: I'm fortunate enough to have never had to work a food service job.
I don't mind tipping but it's also kind of ridiculous that 10 to 15% used to be the standard good tip and now 20% is the standard good tip, and I'm sure that'll eventually move up to servers throwing tantrums whenever someone doesn't tip 25% or more.Their "tantrums" happen because inflation continues while the restaurant lobby keeps minimum wage low. The financial means to live a worthwhile life have to come from somewhere.
As someone in a developed country with a living wage, the fact tipping is an "issue" strikes me as fascinating.
Kinda like gun violence, unaffordable healthcare, gerrymandering and voter suppression, the cult-like pledge of allegiance and flag worship.
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I love how tipping topics here are guaranteed going to get a lot of posts. Anyhow I probably said it before but if I go to a sit down restaurant which is rare now I'll tip unless the service is just all time bad.Same. But I don't care about percentages. I tip 10-20 bucks, and maybe the person I'm with tips too, and if it ain't good enough, oh well
If I am going to a fast food place or picking up an order I am not throwing money in your damn tip cup. I'll tip when I get my head shaved though.
((Sorry I didn't have a funny response. My first post I seem to play it straight/honest and then as a topic progresses and I am still interested I tend to adjust how I post depending on the mood))
This, only rich people should be starting businesses. Stay in your lane, poor people.
No. It should be a law that tipping is banned
Expecting tipping is stupid. At that point, its not a tip, its just that your prices are a lie.Servers don't set the prices.