The Thin Red Line is one of the most pretentious terrible war movies of all time

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Looks pretty though.

It's also unintentionally laughable. There's literally a line about darkness and light as if it's kingdom hearts.

You can tell how pretentious amateur film school the writing is when it's chock full of the narration crutch, and said narration is all about how war is terrible derp. Never woulda known zat.

I always knew I was gonna hate it whenever I saw the trailer on TV but I just learned it's by the guy behind the tree of life. Suddenly makes a lot of sense.
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Hmm...
"It's pretentious and the dialogue is terrible, but it looks beautiful" can be used for every Terrence Malick film.
...I think I'm done here...
This came out in the same year as saving private Ryan and its crazy how much better spr is especially by comparison.

This hackneyed, heavy-handed, downright hokey film about "war bad" has a bizarre 80% rt rating by audiences, did we watch the same movie
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This came out in the same year as saving private Ryan and its crazy how much better spr is especially by comparison.

This hackneyed, heavy-handed, downright hokey film about "war bad" has a bizarre 80% rt rating by audiences, did we watch the same movie
I remember when everyone used to say TRL was better
I pretty much detest all war movies. With that being said the best war movie of 1998 is When Trumpets Fade.
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archizzy posted...
I pretty much detest all war movies. With that being said the best war movie of 1998 is When Trumpets Fade.

Detest the material being depicted or the concept of war movies itself?
Dark_Arbron posted...
Detest the material being depicted or the concept of war movies itself?

Detest is an overly strong word. It's more like I generally dislike and it is just because I dislike that period of US history. I loved World History in school but hated US History. I'll take a a movie about Greece or Rome or something like that with war all day long but anything to do with WWI, WWII, or Vietnam I just generally don't find very interesting.

I have seen a lot of War movies but I generally never watch them more than once and often don't like them that much. It's the actual war part I just don't really enjoy. For instance Full Metal Jacket is one of my favorite movies when they are in boot camp. Once boot camp ends I generally stop watching the movie as I don't much care for the rest of it.

If it deals with the characters and the military itself I often like many of them. It i just the actual war part I dislike, but again only when dealing with the US military. It's hard to explain why and I'm sure it makes little sense to you or anyone else.

Ironically one of my favorite book series is Brotherhood of War by W.E.B. Griffin. An excellent book series about many different people in the army and their spouses and how their lives all intertwine over the course of their military careers and it deals with war at times.

I know I can't explain it accurately.

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archizzy posted...
Detest is an overly strong word. It's more like I generally dislike and it is just because I dislike that period of US history. I loved World History in school but hated US History. I'll take a a movie about Greece or Rome or something like that with war all day long but anything to do with WWI, WWII, or Vietnam I just generally don't find very interesting.

I have seen a lot of War movies but I generally never watch them more than once and often don't like them that much. It's the actual war part I just don't really enjoy. For instance Full Metal Jacket is one of my favorite movies when they are in boot camp. Once boot camp ends I generally stop watching the movie as I don't much care for the rest of it.

If it deals with the characters and the military itself I often like many of them. It i just the actual war part I dislike, but again only when dealing with the US military. It's hard to explain why and I'm sure it makes little sense to you or anyone else.

Ironically one of my favorite book series is Brotherhood of War by W.E.B. Griffin. An excellent book series about many different people in the army and their spouses and how their lives all intertwine over the course of their military careers and it deals with war at times.

I know I can't explain it accurately.

insanely curious to see if youd enjoy generation kill on HBO
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Zeeak4444 posted...
insanely curious to see if youd enjoy generation kill on HBO

Don't know. But I can say I have watched damn near every mini series or show HBO has put out since I was a kid and one of the only shows I never watched or had an interest in was Generation Kill and Band of Brothers. Never watched either one and I have had a ton of people absolutely rave about Band of Brothers to me.
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archizzy posted...
Don't know. But I can say I have watched damn near every mini series or show HBO has put out since I was a kid and one of the only shows I never watched or had an interest in was Generation Kill and Band of Brothers. Never watched either one and I have had a ton of people absolutely rave about Band of Brothers to me.

I suppose what I was asking was how youd feel about something like Schindlers List, which I guess isnt even really a war movie.

Dark_Arbron posted...
I suppose what I was asking was how youd feel about something like Schindlers List, which I guess isnt even really a war movie.

Yeah I have no issues with it. To me it doesn't come off like a WWII war movie. That's different.
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But back to the topic at hand, seriously for those of you who enjoy war movies When Trumpets Fade doesn't get the credit it deserves. It's actually an HBO made movie and it really deals with a much lesser known but very intense battle. I recommend it for those of you who are into movies like these.
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archizzy posted...
Yeah I have no issues with it. To me it doesn't come off like a WWII war movie. That's different.

Ah, so were talking the Murica! style of WW2 movie. Its the last war where the US could unequivocally be considered the good guys so it tends to be glorified. Video games are obsessed with it too.
Dark_Arbron posted...
Ah, so were talking the Murica! style of WW2 movie. Its the last war where the US could unequivocally be considered the good guys so it tends to be glorified. Video games are obsessed with it too.

I think for me it just boils down to watching guns, grenades, and modern military weapons doesn't do much for me. I'm not big on action movies with heavy gun usage like battles with the Cartel either. But if you show me some sword and shield fighting I dig it.

And when you watch WWI, WWII, and Vietnam, or even a modern movie dealing with Iraq or something it tends to be that type of warm fighting I don't like. Automatic weapons, air strikes, grenades, mortars, not really my thing. Just never liked it.

So typically I will only watch something like that once, where as fights like on Braveheart or Troy I have watched 100 times. That should probably make more sense.

The only time I ever ever truly enjoyed a WWII movie with fighting was Enemy at the Gates where it was this cat and mouse game between two snipers. That I enjoyed.
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Its definitely a weird fucking movie

i didnt like the inner dialogue bullshit

yeah it was pretty cringy, didnt even make sense at times

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trivialbeing posted...
I remember when everyone used to say TRL was better

anyone who says that is just trying to be a hipster and thinks they are the smartest person in the room wherever they go
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It insists upon itself.
Hornswoggled posted...
It insists upon itself.
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yemmy posted...
anyone who says that is just trying to be a hipster and thinks they are the smartest person in the room wherever they go

or they just like it better
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archizzy posted...
I pretty much detest all war movies. With that being said the best war movie of 1998 is When Trumpets Fade.
Patton still holds up
When Trumpets Fade is amazing. I saw it during the original HBO broadcast, and I still think about it.
What about Black Hawk Down?
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The silly reverse snobbery bullshit of 'anyone who prefers this is a pretentious hipster' . . .

I don't care for war films, but Malick's Days of Heaven is one of the best movies ever made.
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Delirious_Beard posted...
or they just like it better

yeah people who like that cringe fest better than SPR fit into that category.

I say that as an arthouse movie freak myself. Movie/TV hipsters are the fucking worst though. The subreddits to any arthouse film or tv show is proof most people dont even understand the themes movies like this even try to explore they just see a movie that insists upon itself(lol) and say oh what a smart, thought provoking movie and then go sniffing their own farts like they understood some high art that someone else didnt, when in fact it is usually the opposite.
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archizzy posted...
I think for me it just boils down to watching guns, grenades, and modern military weapons doesn't do much for me. I'm not big on action movies with heavy gun usage like battles with the Cartel either. But if you show me some sword and shield fighting I dig it.

And when you watch WWI, WWII, and Vietnam, or even a modern movie dealing with Iraq or something it tends to be that type of warm fighting I don't like. Automatic weapons, air strikes, grenades, mortars, not really my thing. Just never liked it.

So typically I will only watch something like that once, where as fights like on Braveheart or Troy I have watched 100 times. That should probably make more sense.

The only time I ever ever truly enjoyed a WWII movie with fighting was Enemy at the Gates where it was this cat and mouse game between two snipers. That I enjoyed.
I think what you like is a war movie without fighting. I've seen a few. There was this movie few years ago about 2 brothers in England. The younger brother went off to war the other well you will have to watch the movie. There was another one in WW1 about soldier who didn't want to fight and how badly he was treated because of that
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Hayame_Zero posted...
"It's pretentious and the dialogue is terrible, but it looks beautiful" can be used for every Terrence Malick film.
This explains so much
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This came out in the same year as saving private Ryan and its crazy how much better spr is especially by comparison.

This hackneyed, heavy-handed, downright hokey film about "war bad" has a bizarre 80% rt rating by audiences, did we watch the same movie

Man it's 26 years later and moviebros are STILL literally mad that they went to the theater expecting a hoo-rah big boy war movie like Saving Private Ryan, and instead got a Terrence Malick film.
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This came out in the same year as saving private Ryan and its crazy how much better spr is especially by comparison.

You one of those people who defend Armageddon over Deep Impact , too?
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archizzy posted...
I have seen a lot of War movies but I generally never watch them more than once and often don't like them that much.

Mister Roberts is one of the better (definitely not the best) war movies I've seen that no one seems to know or talk about.

It's worth at least the one watch you give most war movies.
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ear movies

"Tether even a roasted chicken."
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Fixed.
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So someone else here just made a topic about Shakespeare in love, which came out the same year as this and spr, and was infamous for being the biggest Oscar upset in history.

Well I'd rather watch Shakespeare in love, with Gwenyth Paltrow, than even stomach this movie.

Woodie Harrelson blowing his dick off with a grenade like it's a scene from super troopers was funny though, so that's something.
Some of the dialogue is pretty decent. Woody Harrelson, Nick Nolte and the lawyer dude who stands up to him are all on their A game.

The conversations between the lawyer Sargent and Nick Nolte are really well done
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