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Around 1:30 p.m. on New Year's Eve, police officers were in the 4800-block of West Jackson Boulevard when an 11-year-old boy waved them down.

https://abc7chicago.com/west-garfield-park-chicago-police-home-alone-jackson-boulevard/14259687/

I am shaking my head. 11 years is old enough to feed, diaper and play with an infant.

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Illinois law requires children be at least 14 years old to be left home alone.

Well, I guess breaking the law gets you arrested
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What sort of law is that?
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Um... The story says something a lot more horrifying than that. What happened to the parent?
SHRlKE posted...
What sort of law is that?

One that is there for the safety of the other children who don't have a say.

Also it was an 11 y/o "in charge" of 3 other children between 1 and 7.

The law/kids aren't wrong in this.
I think leaving an 11 year old home alone would be fine in most instances (though apparently it's illegal in that state for any child under 14 which seems both impractical and overbearing) but this wasn't just an 11 year old but several smaller children and infants and if they thought it was necessary to flag down an officer than they obviously weren't ready to be left alone.
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SHRlKE posted...
What sort of law is that?
Probably a cutoff for any teens that babysit. 14 is old enough to watch over younger kids for a short amount of time and call the police or parents for an emergency.
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I need a nap, I saw this as "11 year old mom got arrested" and was curious to what she did to her child, why is her age relevant to the story >_>
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I mean there are different parts to this.

Its one thing to leave an 11 year old alone for a few hours. They are the oldest and can watch younger kids for a bit. I assume he had a cell phone to contact his parents.

But this says they were left alone for the holidays. The exact amount of time is unclear. You don't leave an 11 year old alone in charge of younger kids alone for a day, let alone numerous days.

Its not the same thing as entrusting a teenager, let alone an actual adult who can drive if needed. They just left these kids high and dry by the sound of it.
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MrFingers07 posted...
I need a nap, I saw this as "11 year old mom got arrested" and was curious to what she did to her child, why is her age relevant to the story >_>

I did the same. I was furious before I even hit the topic because I thought a tween mom was being arrested for God knows what.

I'm glad that particular setting isn't the case.
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Dark-Summoner posted...
One that is there for the safety of the other children who don't have a say.

Also it was an 11 y/o "in charge" of 3 other children between 1 and 7.

The law/kids aren't wrong in this.

Then make that the law then.
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Yeah, this is a case of the mom getting what she deserved.
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Most 11 year old boys love their mother enough that they would cope.
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CobraGT posted...
Most 11 year old boys love their mother enough that they would cope.

You think that the kid knew he'd get his mom arrested? If he was flagging down cops, especially if it's in the neighborhood I have in mind, then he was really in trouble and needed help.
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Umm....

I wouldn't trust an 11 year old to be able to take care of a 1 year old for a whole day, let alone with two other children aged 4 and 7.

I don't care how capable you think an 11 year old is. That's a tragedy waiting to happen.

CobraGT posted...


I am shaking my head. 11 years is old enough to feed, diaper and play with an infant.
An 11 year old can not take care of three other children including an infant
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The fuck does an 11 year old become a mum?
MrFingers07 posted...
I need a nap, I saw this as "11 year old mom got arrested" and was curious to what she did to her child, why is her age relevant to the story >_>
Yeah, my brain briefly skipped over the word "gets" in the title. So for just a moment, I was horrified.

The wording of the article is a bit concerning though. The mother was charged, but it also sounds like they don't know where she is?
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The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services said they have the children and are investigating. The last contact DCFS had with the mother in the case was in December.

Sounds like there is also already some kind of history...
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CobraGT posted...
Most 11 year old boys love their mother enough that they would cope.
Are you blaming the 11 year old for this lmao
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CobraGT posted...
I am shaking my head. 11 years is old enough to feed, diaper and play with an infant.

CobraGT posted...
Most 11 year old boys love their mother enough that they would cope.
Did you bother reading the details of the article? Or any of the posts in this topic giving the relevant details?
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ehhh. My sister used to watch me when she was about that age but I was like 4 or 5. Leaving an infant with an 11-year-old is pretty irresponsible. Especially one that doesn't want that responsibility.
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People are wildly overestimating the talents of your average 11 year old in being a parental figure to an entire house full of infants that need to be fed, washed, organized, changed, put to sleep, etc. Lmao.

My nephew is 10 and still mopes when his dad doesn't give him extra screen time or dino nuggets for dessert.
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CobraGT posted...
Chicago:

Around 1:30 p.m. on New Year's Eve, police officers were in the 4800-block of West Jackson Boulevard when an 11-year-old boy waved them down.

I am shaking my head. 11 years is old enough to feed, diaper and play with an infant.

Parentification is child abuse plain and simple. An 11 year old should be allowed to be a kid.

I think watching them for a night out or something could be reasonable, depending on the child, but this definitely does not sound like that.
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SHRlKE posted...
Then make that the law then.
You can't read. It is the IL law. Child neglect is cause for removal of children and possible jail time. First you wanted to leave a 11 year old in charge of a baby for over 24 hrs and then you couldn't understand what a statute is.
name_unknown posted...
You can't read. It is the IL law. Child neglect is cause for removal of children and possible jail time. First you wanted to leave a 11 year old in charge of a baby for over 24 hrs and then you couldn't understand what a statute is.

Well Im not from Chicago how would I know. I thought it was illegal to leave 11 year old on their own. If its just you cant leave an 11 year old in charge of a baby then I agree that should be illegal.

What was the matriarch doing during this?
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Just_a_loser posted...
I mean there are different parts to this.

Its one thing to leave an 11 year old alone for a few hours. They are the oldest and can watch younger kids for a bit. I assume he had a cell phone to contact his parents.

But this says they were left alone for the holidays. The exact amount of time is unclear. You don't leave an 11 year old alone in charge of younger kids alone for a day, let alone numerous days.

Its not the same thing as entrusting a teenager, let alone an actual adult who can drive if needed. They just left these kids high and dry by the sound of it.

Yeah when my brother hit 11 my mom would leave us home alone while she worked but that was it.

This was before cell phones where common but we had her work number.
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Poor mom was probably out working a 3rd job just to keep a roof over those kids heads and this is what she gets?
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Well Im not from Chicago how would I know. I thought it was illegal to leave 11 year old on their own. If its just you cant leave an 11 year old in charge of a baby then I agree that should be illegal.

What was the matriarch doing during this?

The statute is underage of 14. Just leaving the 11 year old can get child services involved. so you do believe 11 year olds should be left alone for days. This specific occurrence isn't after school alone till dinner. Days on end no 11 year old should be left alone and services should remove children from neglectful environments.
ArkhamOrigins posted...
Poor mom was probably out working a 3rd job just to keep a roof over those kids heads and this is what she gets?
The fact it says 'for the holidays' in the article suggests that the children were left alone for multiple days. You do not leave an 11 year old by themselves with a baby for one day never mind several days. Whilst the parent is at an 8 hour job? Maybe , but not if the kid is ill equipped.
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ArkhamOrigins posted...
Poor mom was probably out working a 3rd job just to keep a roof over those kids heads and this is what she gets?

Stop having kids then. Also a 1 year old is a lot of work for an 11 year old. Even a 4 year old is a bit much. If it was 11 and 7 year olds then yeah id understand. Theyd just hangout and watch tv or something
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alfred_ashford posted...
Stop having kids then.

come on man

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__starsnostars posted...
I think leaving an 11 year old home alone would be fine in most instances

Wow, really? I would have to have a super mature 11 year old to be comfortable with leaving then home alone.
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My parents did that sometimes starting from when I was 9 or 10. I dont get why its a big deal.
kage_53 posted...
My parents did that sometimes starting from when I was 9 or 10. I dont get why its a big deal.

Dod you have to look after a 1 year old, a 4 year old and a 7 year old for several days on your own?
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kage_53 posted...
My parents did that sometimes starting from when I was 9 or 10. I dont get why its a big deal.
Again multiple days left alone not the hours between after school or the like. Leave 11 home alone for 72 or more hours you shouldn't be a parent.
ItsNotA2Mer posted...
Wow, really? I would have to have a super mature 11 year old to be comfortable with leaving then home alone.

Not necessarily mature. For me all I'd do is eat junk food and play video games. And I've never had a large appetite so it wouldn't be like I'd eat every bit of junk food.

But as said it was never more than half a day I'd be home alone. With my brother there as well. He was the one who would wipe food out when left unattended. But my mom learned to hide the stuff he wanted to eat. He was too lazy to dig all the way into the back of a packed fridge or freezer. She'd put just a little where he could find it.
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A 1 year old is a shit ton of work for my wife and I. We live nowhere near family and shes frustrated and burnt out a lot while Im at work full time. Its hard but rewarding work. And OP is mad that an 11 year old cant do it and take of another kid too? Has the police hate gone so mad these days
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kage_53 posted...
My parents did that sometimes starting from when I was 9 or 10. I dont get why its a big deal.

I was the second oldest. The oldest was responsible for our 2 younger brothers and I had chores.
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Dod you have to look after a 1 year old, a 4 year old and a 7 year old for several days on your own?

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name_unknown posted...
The statute is underage of 14. Just leaving the 11 year old can get child services involved. so you do believe 11 year olds should be left alone for days. This specific occurrence isn't after school alone till dinner. Days on end no 11 year old should be left alone and services should remove children from neglectful environments.

Depends how often it happens. If its a one off the kids will suffer a lot more being taken from their parents. My wife works in a school that has a lot of kids from broken homes and social services will only take them away from their parents if they absolutely have to because the stats show kids taken from their parents suffer a lot. Its a sad state of affairs but the institutions these kids can be placed into can be worse than a bad home life in a lot of circumstances so they weight this up as well.

I think whatever we disagree on we should at least agree kids should only be taken from their parents as a last resort. It shouldnt be thrown around Willy Nilly or as a punishment to the parent. The kids safety and development comes first.

No kid should be responsible for looking after a baby for a prolonged period of time. That should be the main concern here and I completely agree that unless there are extenuating circumstances this needs to be investigated. But suggesting a blanket law you cant leave a 13 and a half year on their own is madness. I can see why its only in a number of states and not enforced across the entire country. In the UK the law is essentially you cant leave them at home alone if there is a risk. I feel this is fair. I was left at home when I was 12/13 because I was responsible. My older brother wasnt even though he was two years older he was a shit.
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Article says the Department of Children and Family services visited them in December so this lady already is on the radar for being an unfit mother.
Cuticrusader09 posted...
Article says the Department of Children and Family services visited them in December so this lady already is on the radar for being an unfit mother.

Ah if there is a pattern here it definitely needs a deeper dive. I imagine her being arrested is as much to do with it potentially being a repeat offence as much as anything.
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Cuticrusader09 posted...
Article says the Department of Children and Family services visited them in December so this lady already is on the radar for being an unfit mother.
Right, and the fact that she was last contacted on December makes me wonder what the hell is going on. It's not even that she left them for a short bit. It's the fact that she seemingly vanished.
mariolover2 posted...
mother is insane for not finding someone to babysit on NYE. The kids know theyre not at a party..when theres fireworks down the block.
Thats assuming she had anyone, but its takes a lot of time and effort for a single mom with 4 kids to not have anyone tbh.
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