Filler is like the fly episode in breaking bad. Its to personal taste whether someone likes it or not. But it doesnt contribute to the plot, and any character development could have been done in the plot theres no reason it had to be filleri get the usual definition of filler like the Dragon Ball Z driving episode
Filler is just something that wasn't in the source material. So yes, filler is filler.
boo that's dumbyou cant really have a already created and finished plot and then insert something in the middle of it without changing anything else and have it not be filler
yes i know filler being filler doesn't mean all filler is bad
just sounds dumb to me that if an original manga scene flat out makes zero sense and any anime adaptation improves on it with the guidance of the original author readers are still like "hyuck hyuck not canon bro"
just sounds dumb to me that if an original manga scene flat out makes zero sense and any anime adaptation improves on it with the guidance of the original authorDefinitionally not filler.
Filler isn't typically just a scene though. It's usually an entire episode. And almost nothing of substance happens in the episode. Something being reworked or fully fleshed out by the author to explain themselves better in a scene or two often isn't regarded as filler. Especially if it is important and actual fills in the plot or a characters backstory in a way the creator wanted it to.
Filler is just something that wasn't in the source material. So yes, filler is filler.
It can be entire arcs/series, that's where the big complaints come in.Indeed. My point was that it's not just a single scene being reworked, which is what TC is talking about.
well not according to this:That's one person's opinion, and just like people like this:
the guidance of the original author readers are still like "hyuck hyuck not canon bro"His opinion doesn't matter.
i get the usual definition of filler like the Dragon Ball Z driving episode
but what if author's like "oh shoot i could have expanded on this pivotal plot/character point but i didn't, too late for me but not too late for the anime I GOTTA GIVE THEM MY DIRECTIONS"?
Its got nothing to do with source material. All filler is, is content that doesnt progress the plot or significantly progress character development/relations
you cant have a finished product, insert something in the middle and have it not be filler because it doesnt change anything else about the series. If you change other aspects of the series to account for the new content, then it wouldnt necessarily be filler
In terms of anime, filler is content created to try and prevent the anime from catching up to the manga. Thats all filler is. Theres also no such thing as filler scenes like youre describing. Filler is typically entire episodes, or even arcs.
You are basically hitting the reason why people who carpet bate filler are full of it. Like in HxH there is a lengthy scene early on that was added strictly to fill in a spot that the manga skipped over (they were stuck in a room). The anime took the time to flesh out the roster of core members well ahead of when the manga did (at least proportionally) as well as added to the tension by having several side characters actually get to have their nefarious nonsense done in parallel to the wait as opposed to retroactive scenes.
Nah. It's like Game of Thrones. Since the books will never be completed, the show becomes the definitive adaptation and the books are basically the filler.
that sounds neat, obviously i've never watched that series but sounds like that changed stuff for the better, probably even strengthened canon relationships/characteristics versus overlooking itCorrect. Most of the filler is stuff that I didn't even know was filler until it was pointed out. Like, it's wild to me that some people moaned about the filler when it was the only way you even knew wtf was going on in some scenes (such as one later on when they are buying stuff from a market -> becoming friends with someone who it is critical that they become friends with... Which is effectively "Okay, we're friends now let's go" in canon by comparison).
would said situation still be considered yucky non-canon filler moment 62?I don't think so. I think a situation like that would be regarded as canon or "corrected canon." It's kind of like how The Walking Dead show was created by the guys who made the comics, and there were a bunch of tweaks and changes made to certain events and characters, but the show is still its own canon, as it was largely made by the original artists.
New Bleach has filler because the author was having health issues at the time and rushed a lot if things. Everything has been better because of it.The new anime?
Nah. It's like Game of Thrones. Since the books will never be completed, the show becomes the definitive adaptation and the books are basically the filler.Lol no. That pile of shit dumpster fire will never be canon. Doesnt matter if canon is never complete. Canon is canon.