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For the Emperor!

Henry Cavill is the emperor
Moustache twirling villian
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Nth posted...
If you're completely new to Warhammer 40K and want a crash course on the setting and factions, here's four essential lore videos to watch that give a broad spectrum narrative of what's going on and who's who to bring you up to date.

Timeline of Humanity. What happened from the first humans all the way up to the 40th millennium.
https://youtu.be/8jhGnWxFdfE

Factions lore video 1: https://youtu.be/xCGKPRiJp84

Factions lore video 2: https://youtu.be/Y6jnsX77TCU

The 20 Legions of the Legiones Astartes, later to become the Adeptes Astartes after the Horus Heresy.
https://youtu.be/Ae2Beeleswc

I played Warhammer fantasy tabletop a bit in the late 90s, so learned a bit of the lore of both but this is good to watch later!!

Broad question though - in both settings it seemed Chaos would eventually win just because the "source" of it could never be stopped/defeated. It might take a long time but eventually everything would succumb...is that accurate?
Ruvan22 posted...
Broad question though - in both settings it seemed Chaos would eventually win just because the "source" of it could never be stopped/defeated. It might take a long time but eventually everything would succumb...is that accurate?
More or less. The story of Warhammer is generally not a happy one.
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I hope they do 2 shows, 1 for Fantasy and 1 for 40k
Ruvan22 posted...
I played Warhammer fantasy tabletop a bit in the late 90s, so learned a bit of the lore of both but this is good to watch later!!

Broad question though - in both settings it seemed Chaos would eventually win just because the "source" of it could never be stopped/defeated. It might take a long time but eventually everything would succumb...is that accurate?


nah
fantasy plays by different rules now in age of sigmar and there are pantheons of gods/godlike figures that stand in opposition to chaos (and each other)
order (stormcast eternals, dwarves, sylvaneth, etc.) death (undead, vampires, nagash's legions etc.), destruction (orcs, goblins, ogres, etc.) and chaos are the major players in fantasy now

and in 40k, not all of the factions are corruptible
its more likely nids will eat everything than chaos will win out IMO, and orks are nigh impossible to eradicate without literally destroying the planet since they reproduce via spores that they not only constantly release, but release en masse when they die
Zikten posted...
I hope they do 2 shows, 1 for Fantasy and 1 for 40k
I can only imagine the nerd rage if they do a fantasy show. Sigmar or classic, either would get the other side pissed lol
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
For the first time in a long time, I'm going to put my faith in an actor when they say something like this. 99% of the time it is just lip service for the sheep, but I trust Cavill. Please, God, let this be the one time I'm not disappointed.

But will Amazon LET him keep his promise is the big thing.
WingsOfGood posted...
But will Amazon LET him keep his promise is the big thing.
I mean, Amazon so far has been pretty good with not screwing up shows as far as I've heard.

They've had a couple bad ones, but they weren't bad because of Amazon.
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Warhammer is scifi DnD right?
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_____Cait posted...
Warhammer is scifi DnD right?
No not even close
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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_____Cait posted...
Warhammer is scifi DnD right?
Nope. It's a miniatures game, you assemble and paint the pieces for yourself. And the actual game is a war game, not an RPG, though it's definitely branched out.
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Well there is an rpg spinoff. I played 1 session of an rpg once. I think we were playing as Inquisitors. But I think you can be other things too maybe.

And there are 2 universes of Warhammer. Fantasy is what it sounds like. A medieval setting. 40k is the sci fi one
RuneterranSnap posted...
Nope. It's a miniatures game, you assemble and paint the pieces for yourself. And the actual game is a war game, not an RPG, though it's definitely branched out.

I have a ton of Warhammer 40k games on Steam for some reason, and never opened them. Are these generally good?
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_____Cait posted...
I have a ton of Warhammer 40k games on Steam for some reason, and never opened them. Are these generally good?
Space Marine is basically PS2 God of War
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg
Oh wow, maybe i should play it some time.
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_____Cait posted...
I have a ton of Warhammer 40k games on Steam for some reason, and never opened them. Are these generally good?

nah
generally bad
space marine, dawn of war 2, (and for fantasy vermintide (maybe darktide too, idk) and the total war: warhammer games) are the only ones really held in high regard
there's some other decent ones like dawn of war 1 and mechanicus, but most games are pretty shitty
_____Cait posted...
I have a ton of Warhammer 40k games on Steam for some reason, and never opened them. Are these generally good?
They range in quality from amazing to awful
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Space Marine is basically PS2 God of War
Boltgun is like a mishmash of Quake 1, classic Doom and Doom 2016. Its pretty good despite feeling like several different shooter styles Frankenstein stitched together.
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ArsGoetia posted...
nah
fantasy plays by different rules now in age of sigmar and there are pantheons of gods/godlike figures that stand in opposition to chaos (and each other)
order (stormcast eternals, dwarves, sylvaneth, etc.) death (undead, vampires, nagash's legions etc.), destruction (orcs, goblins, ogres, etc.) and chaos are the major players in fantasy now

Ahh interesting - Warcraft's lore change has been somewhat similar over the last five - six years

and in 40k, not all of the factions are corruptible
its more likely nids will eat everything than chaos will win out IMO, and orks are nigh impossible to eradicate without literally destroying the planet since they reproduce via spores that they not only constantly release, but release en masse when they die

Can Tyranids and Orks transport between planets easily enough for a few eggs/spores to infect/take over a whole planet?
Ruvan22 posted...
Can Tyranids and Orks transport between planets easily enough for a few eggs/spores to infect/take over a whole planet?
Nids absolutely can and do. There's also the Genestealer Cult, who as I recall are basically human/tyranid hybrids that work to undermine civilizations to prep for an invasion. But I'm not up to date on lore for them, someone else can clarify.
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Ruvan22 posted...


Can Tyranids and Orks transport between planets easily enough for a few eggs/spores to infect/take over a whole planet?


nids have been implied to have eaten most of what exists outside of the milky way iirc and what we see of nids currently in our galaxy is just the vanguard of the much larger tyranid force

orks are a genetically engineered bioweapon made to destroy the necrons and they all have the ability to tap into a collective unconscious wherein the knowledge to create advanced technologies (such as FTL travel) exists

theres a story about a mekboy (ork engineer) tapping into it and making a nuclear fission engine by accident

To give you an idea of how orks work, if they painted racing stripes on their vehicles... the vehicles will go faster. They believe so strongly that racing stripe = fast that they basically magically will the effect to occur.

They travel in patchwork ships that are basically welded together from scrap and the only reason that they don't all die the second they leave orbit is because they believe it works, so it does.
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ArsGoetia posted...
nids have been implied to have eaten most of what exists outside of the milky way iirc and what we see of nids currently in our galaxy is just the vanguard of the much larger tyranid force

orks are a genetically engineered bioweapon made to destroy the necrons and they all have the ability to tap into a collective unconscious wherein the knowledge to create advanced technologies (such as FTL travel) exists

theres a story about a mekboy (ork engineer) tapping into it and making a nuclear fission engine by accident

s0nicfan posted...
To give you an idea of how orks work, if they painted racing stripes on their vehicles... the vehicles will go faster. They believe so strongly that racing stripe = fast that they basically magically will the effect to occur.

They travel in patchwork ships that are basically welded together from scrap and the only reason that they don't all die the second they leave orbit is because they believe it works, so it does.

Ahh thanks!
To me, the really interesting Warhammer stuff isn't even the current day conflicts, but all the Eldritch horror that's bubbling just beneath the surface. Like the c'tan, an ancient race of beings as old as the universe that floated from system to system casually eating suns until they get tricked into being trapped into physical forms which are then shattered, each shard acting like a battlefield nuke that always carries the small chance of releasing that God out of its prison and dooming the entire galaxy almost instantaneously.
"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
The Warhammer 40k universe is vast enough to be a space opera but also you can create lesser scale, smaller, more intimate stories within its setting as well. Henry can go about this in any number of ways and still make it work.
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meralonne posted...
Id much rather see a Warhammer Fantasy show than a 40K show, but Im sure plenty of people will eventually enjoy this.
If they did a Warhammer Fantasy show, I would want it to feature the Skaven and/or Lizardmen. That's not to say it wouldn't be interesting without them, but I just think that would be significantly more interesting than the inevitable Empire and Dwarfs vs. Chaos storyline it would probably end up being.

Despite 40k focusing even more on humans than Fantasy does, I think the overall setting allows for some more interesting scenarios for a TV show.
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
If they did a Warhammer Fantasy show, I would want it to feature the Skaven and/or Lizardmen.

Skaven would be awesome. I never played the games themselves, but I have fond memories of reading several of the Gotrek and Felix novels from William King.

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Ruvan22 posted...
Ahh interesting - Warcraft's lore change has been somewhat similar over the last five - six years

Can Tyranids and Orks transport between planets easily enough for a few eggs/spores to infect/take over a whole planet?

Definitely. Orks and Tyranids probably have the highest populations of all the Warhammer 40K factions. What keeps the Orks in check is that they constantly fight with each other when there is no one else around. Even on the tabletop Orks have to make a special roll to see whether or not Ork units will start attacking each other.
This also works out in that major Ork populations can actually act as a bulwark against Tyranids like in the Octarius sector. The Orks and the Tyranids had been fighting each other to a stalemate for decades in massive wars of tens of millions. Only recently have the Tyranids finally overwhelmed the Orks.

Tyranids travel around space in huge bio hive ships that they use to seed planets when they come into orbit. The hive fleets look like giant tentacles out in space with each hive fleet being monitored and given names like hive fleet Leviathan or hive flee Behemoth. All these hive fleets are suspected to be offshoots of an even larger Tyranid swarm that isn't even in our galaxy yet.
Tyranid lore vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=intJPrVtNh4

The Orks do build their own ships as well, but they will also hollow out asteroids and use them as gun platforms and move them around by either towing them or building engines on to them. When Orks make planetfall they literally crash their ships and will take casualties in the thousands, but their numbers are so great that they don't even care. Orks are also known to infest space hulks and drift around in the warp fighting demons until they either get slaughtered or get spit back out into real space.

Here's an Ork lore video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j3QRl-Vuro
"I understand that the world was nothing: a mechanical chaos of casual, brute enmity on which we stupidly impose our hopes and fears." - Grendel
Nth posted...
orks are also known to infest space hulks and drift around in the warp fighting demons until they either get slaughtered or get spit back out into real space.


theres also the story about the ork warboss that deliberately sailed his fleet directly into the eye of terror (rift in spacetime leading directly to the chaos dimension) just because he thought fucking up chaos daemons was fun
conquered a number of daemon worlds and daemon princes before his WAAAGH! fell, and when it did, khorne (daemon god of blood, combat, violence, rage, honor, etc.) was so fuckin tickled that he granted this ork and his boyz eternal life in a field of combat pitted against his daemon generals
From what I understand of the lore, 40k orks are the only species in the universe that is having fun and loving how things are
Zikten posted...
From what I understand of the lore, 40k orks are the only species in the universe that is having fun and loving how things are
In a universe with armies based on Vikings, Romans, Egyptians, etc, the Orkz are based on football hooligans.
Nothing to report here
ArsGoetia posted...
was so f***in tickled that he granted this ork and his boyz eternal life in a field of combat pitted against his daemon generals
That is like, literally heaven to them.
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luigi33 posted...
That is like, literally heaven to them.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/7/AAfc_TAAErBn.jpg
Warhammer has always seemed kind of interesting, but there's never really been any gateway thar I've been interested in for jumping in. A show sounds like it'll work for me and I trust Cavill to at least try his best at giving us something good. Hope he succeeds.
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Warhammer has always seemed kind of interesting, but there's never really been any gateway thar I've been interested in for jumping in. A show sounds like it'll work for me and I trust Cavill to at least try his best at giving us something good. Hope he succeeds.
Theres already an animated anthology TV series called Hammer and Bolter. I think its 15 episodes.
"I understand that the world was nothing: a mechanical chaos of casual, brute enmity on which we stupidly impose our hopes and fears." - Grendel
If you can't 'find' Hammer and Bolter episodes (I'm still hoping it will get released on blu ray at some point) there is a youtuber who watches the episodes on his channel. But he stops and pauses throughout episodes to talk a little about lore points being referenced in the episode, so I guess that's how he can get away with basically showing the episodes on youtube.

This episode is about Lucius the Eternal, an interesting Chaos Marine of note as he is not only a Champion of Slaanesh, but Lucius was originally the Captain of the 13th Company of the Emperor's Children Legion pre-heresy. So not only is Lucius 10,000+ years old and fought in the Heresy itself but he's actually one of the few remaining Old Guard, an original Legiones Astartes. Now deeply corrupted by his patron god Slaanesh, Lucius was gifted/cursed with a unique ability.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91PghSeqVik

The episode about the arrival of a Tyranid hive fleet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UULYf6-jFWs

A Khornate Cultist uprising hunts down the Sisters of Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I6KhMzlP0M

An episode about Nurgle and Plague Marines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPXNs0jW8o0

Chaos Terminators of the Black Legion are sent to retrieve a powerful artifact, but something seems off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvqPM1sFBAU

The Orks only respect two humans in the entire human species. The Emperor and Old Bale Eye, Commissar Yarrick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6UUD8PDhxs

There are more episodes on his channel and some episodes covering Warhammer The Age of Sigmar which is the continuation of the Warhammer Fantasy setting if you're in the mood to see some swords and shields instead of guns and artillery
"I understand that the world was nothing: a mechanical chaos of casual, brute enmity on which we stupidly impose our hopes and fears." - Grendel
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