With the hate on AI art I'm surprised movie CGI gets a free pass

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Damn_Underscore
11/02/2025
01:33 PM
#1
People hate AI art and even call it "slop" because of the distinct look it has... which is pretty bad and definitely noticeable.

Meanwhile movie CGI hasn't looked much better since Jurassic Park and Titanic but it seems to get no backlash for some reason. It always looks really fake especially in motion and it hits the uncanny valley hard. But movie makers seem to be expanding its use to more and more things it shouldn't be used for
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Dikitain
11/02/2025
01:43 PM
#2
You aren't wrong, but I also think the push to HD made things stay CGI, since the cost of making convincing practical effects far exceeded the cost of CGI. Want an example? Look at old sci-fi TV from back in the 60's and 70's. Looks crappy now, but on a 12" CRT which was common at the time it looked great.

If the latest Star Wars movie made a death star, it would take hundreds of man hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars just to make a model that is seen for a minute and eventually blown up. Or one artist can spend a few hours making it in CGI and call it a day. The choice is pretty obvious.
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Damn_Underscore
11/02/2025
01:59 PM
#3
Dikitain posted...
If the latest Star Wars movie made a death star, it would take hundreds of man hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars just to make a model that is seen for a minute and eventually blown up. Or one artist can spend a few hours making it in CGI and call it a day. The choice is pretty obvious.

And one of those movies is an all time classic while the other completely loses relevance in 6 months.

I mean yeah it's about making money though.
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keyblader1985
11/02/2025
02:34 PM
#4
Damn_Underscore posted...
And one of those movies is an all time classic while the other completely loses relevance in 6 months.
Are those facts directly or heavily influenced by their approach to special effects?
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Damn_Underscore
11/02/2025
02:39 PM
#5
keyblader1985 posted...
Are those facts directly or heavily influenced by their approach to special effects?

You can't make big generalizations but special effects are extremely important to a movie's lasting power, yes.

Avatar is a pretend iconic movie that is full of special effects that cause 0 emotional reaction, and it is a great example of a blockbuster movie that was forgotten in 6 months.
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ParanoidObsessive
11/02/2025
02:45 PM
#6
To be fair, I've been complaining about CGI since the 90s.
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adjl
11/02/2025
02:52 PM
#7
People absolutely do complain about CG, especially when it's done poorly.
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Salrite
11/02/2025
02:53 PM
#8
Don't know where you've been, CGI is highly criticized for being slop. It's one of the major complaints for all recent Disney remakes of animated classics. I can't imagine anyone who hates AI that loves garbage CGI.
Damn_Underscore
11/02/2025
03:00 PM
#9
I'm not saying nobody complained about It (I did for one) but the backlash against it is much smaller than the backlash against AI art. And it deserves bigger backlash because movie CGI is made by billion dollar companies while AI art is generally made by average people on the internet.
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Salrite
11/02/2025
03:02 PM
#10
Damn_Underscore posted...
CGI is made by billion dollar companies while AI art is generally made by average people on the internet.

That's even more of an indictment on AI, though. Giving it to the masses and convincing them that they're making actual art floods the landscape with garbage and does more harm than only a handful of studios that cut corners and make slop that everyone agrees is bad.
Damn_Underscore
11/02/2025
03:08 PM
#11
This topic is basically making the argument that all CGI (beyond a certain level like lightsabres or something) is bad because CGI has never been and possibly will never be good enough to do certain things. I think it's way worse that movie studies are ok with presenting this as professional work than some person telling an AI program to draw a dog flying through the air
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ParanoidObsessive
11/02/2025
03:13 PM
#12
Damn_Underscore posted...
This topic is basically making the argument that all CGI (beyond a certain level like lightsabres or something) is bad because CGI has never been and possibly will never be good enough to do certain things. I think it's way worse that movie studies are ok with presenting this as professional work than some person telling an AI program to draw a dog flying through the air

CGI peaked with Tron, and everything since has been inherently terrible. It's patently self-evident.
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Zeus
11/02/2025
03:28 PM
#13
Damn_Underscore posted...
People hate AI art and even call it "slop" because of the distinct look it has... which is pretty bad and definitely noticeable.

Meanwhile movie CGI hasn't looked much better since Jurassic Park and Titanic but it seems to get no backlash for some reason. It always looks really fake especially in motion and it hits the uncanny valley hard. But movie makers seem to be expanding its use to more and more things it shouldn't be used for

These two things are not the same. At all.

Also, movie CGI generally looks fine. And it's not just a matter of having the same number of fingers from scene to scene.

Damn_Underscore posted...
This topic is basically making the argument that all CGI (beyond a certain level like lightsabres or something) is bad because CGI has never been and possibly will never be good enough to do certain things.

CGI frequently looks better than practical effects. The issue with the method comes down to the level of investment and the ability of the humans creating those effects. AI tends to be slop because it just does weird things because there's virtually no human involvement.

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HylianFox
11/02/2025
03:29 PM
#14
This is like saying "People hate A.I. so why don't people hate artists who use a brush?"

Computers are just a tool humans use to make art, while A.I. is just spitting out derivative junk based on stuff humans made
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NickMullen
11/02/2025
03:31 PM
#15
adjl posted...
People absolutely do complain about CG, especially when it's done poorly.

Yeah right what did she have, a bong hit transplant?
captpackrat
11/02/2025
06:36 PM
#16
ParanoidObsessive posted...
CGI peaked with Tron, and everything since has been inherently terrible. It's patently self-evident.
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_____Cait
11/02/2025
11:16 PM
#17
The difference with CGI VS AI is that CGI still needs skill, knowledge, and talent to make. assuming you mean auto generated AI, it has no artistry behind it, outside of how it looks.

Also, people have been crapping on CGI for years. There is so much bad CGI out there,
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Damn_Underscore
11/02/2025
11:21 PM
#18
Rather than all CGI is bad Im saying more that fake and ugly CGI has been totally normalized. You see it in movie trailers and its like are they supposed to be proud of that?
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_____Cait
11/03/2025
12:10 AM
#19
Damn_Underscore posted...
Rather than all CGI is bad Im saying more that fake and ugly CGI has been totally normalized. You see it in movie trailers and its like are they supposed to be proud of that?

Yeah and less and less people like it.
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Sarcasthma
11/03/2025
12:37 AM
#20
adjl posted...
People absolutely do complain about CG, especially when it's done poorly.

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GanglyKhan
11/03/2025
05:52 AM
#21
I think a key difference is that a human is still behind all that CGI work. I get that a programmer is behind what an AI model spits out too, but that's not nearly the same.

What I do find funny is how people will rag on AI for "stealing jobs from artists" but they'll be fine with synthesized instruments instead of viewing it as "stealing jobs from musicians."

The whole AI topic is just exhausting, I wish it had never gotten to the point that it's at now.
ParanoidObsessive
11/03/2025
06:18 AM
#22
captpackrat posted...

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