In some ways, yes.
In some ways, no.
I don't think he's a completely mindless buffoon, but he does and says a lot of stupid stuff.
Depends what you mean by smart/intelligent
Last I checked there was only one definition for each?
Then you can safely define them for us.
If you have a better definition feel free to lay it down.
I don't think he's a completely mindless buffoon, but he does and says a lot of stupid stuff.I have met many people over the years who I wouldn't consider "smart" or "intelligent", but most of them still aren't complete idiots in every single category. Rare is the person who is an absolute moron in every single field of life. Hell, I knew one guy who was obviously pretty "slow" (later found out he was actually considered legally disabled by the government because he had an I.Q. below 80), but he could sail a boat better than I ever will.
I have met many people over the years who I wouldn't consider "smart" or "intelligent", but most of them still aren't complete idiots in every single category. Rare is the person who is an absolute moron in every single field of life. Hell, I knew one guy who was obviously pretty "slow" (later found out he was actually considered legally disabled by the government because he had an I.Q. below 80), but he could sail a boat better than I ever will.Self-driving cars was the first thing I can really remember him talking about where I remember thinking "This guy is kind of an idiot."
So I don't necessarily think that "not a mindless buffoon" should be our minimum qualifier to call someone "smart".
Anyways, no, I don't think Elon is smart; I think he had the good sense to surround himself with smart people and take credit for their accomplishments, but like all narcissists he eventually fell for his own propaganda and deluded himself into thinking that it was his genius, rather than his money, that was the reason for where he was. From what I understand, Tesla had multiple people whose full-time job was managing Musk and ensuring that his ridiculous ideas never got to see the light of day (and the absence of those people at Twitter was what caused a lot of the problems following the takeover) - that's not usually something you associate with legitimately intelligent people.
Or, as someone on Twitter succinctly put it after the takeover (not an exact quote, but I don't have the original source on hand), "I heard a lot of people call Musk a genius for his SpaceX stuff; I don't know anything about rocket science, so I thought he must be a genius. Then I heard a lot of people call Musk a genius for his Tesla stuff; I don't know anything about electric cars, so I thought he must be a genius. Then I saw his opinions about computer science; I know a lot about computers and I can safely say the shit he's saying is some of the most moronic stuff I've ever heard anyone say, and now I'm wondering about just how much of a 'genius' he really was in the other two companies."
Smart people don't lieWhile I agree elon isn't smart, this is just definitely not true lol
The only thing he's "smart" at doing is scamming and exploiting others similarly to his best orange friend.tbh he isn't even objectively good at this
In some ways, yes.I appreciate trying to find the middle ground but I can't think of anything that would fall into this category.
I appreciate trying to find the middle ground but I can't think of anything that would fall into this category.
Do you really think thatdespite your argument from ignorance, I still can't think of anything
despite your argument from ignorance, I still can't think of anything
He paid $40 billion dollars for Twitter and then changed it's name to X, thus discarding what was probably the single most valuable asset left in the company...so no, no I do not think he is intelligent.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b108f748.png
Eh, he's smart enough to get where he is. I'd say that's pretty smart.
Do you really think that someone of average or of below average intelligence could have become literally the richest man alive?Unironically yes.
Unironically yes.
Intelligence and extreme wealth are not correlated. If they were, we would see the ranks of the world's ultra-wealthy dominated by scientists, researchers, and academics, rather than autocrats, business magnates, and celebrities.
I have no idea where this, "It takes brains to be rich" myth started, but it's literally never been true at any point in human history. Some of the world's richest men throughout history have been objectively dumb as fenceposts.
Do you really think that someone of average or of below average intelligence could have become literally the richest man alive? Yes, his wealth is inherited, but it's not like him inheriting that wealth just made him the richest man in the world overnight.
If they were, we would see the ranks of the world's ultra-wealthy dominated by scientists, researchers, and academics, rather than autocrats, business magnates, and celebrities.So you don't think successful business magnates can be hyper intelligent? It's a different type of intelligence from what it requires to be a scientist or academic, but I don't think it's fair to make the qualifier for not being intelligent "not being a scientist" lol
https://www.businessinsider.com/angela-chao-death-tesla-accident-reverse-gearshift-issues-2024-3Easier than shoving out a window. The government can just set the car doors to not open.
Chinese billionaire dies in a Tesla due to not being able to open the doors when it fell into a pond.
> Tesla owners raised concerns for years about design flaws and seeming malfunctions that caused them to accidentally drive in reverse before the death of the shipping magnate Angela Chao, who drowned last month after accidentally backing her Tesla into a pond.
Related Vowch video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neC87Cy2PjA
Inheriting wealth doesn't magically make one rich, but it does give significantly more opportunities to do so and significantly reduce the consequences of failure. Musk got to where he is now because he made a few good business deals, deals he was only able to access because of the wealth he inherited. That's more luck than intelligence: there are countless other people who came from similar backgrounds and failed because the deals they tried to make didn't pan out. That Musk succeeded doesn't indicate that he's particularly any more brilliant or business-savvy than them, it just looks like he is because of survivorship bias.
He's got some modicum of business competence, since you don't stumble into success like that completely blindly, but his success is overwhelmingly a matter of investing into companies that were able to yield a sizable return on that investment, a return that was largely independent (and in many cases, in spite) of any direct input on his part.
Eh, he's smart enough to get where he is. I'd say that's pretty smart.it's called having $$$$$ and being able to buy a position within a company
Apparently there are some people speculating that he doesn't even know how to program or engineer stuff and that the people he hired are the ones doing all that?he doesn't know how to program and this goes back to his development of zip2.
If that's true, my question is how someone would even fucking know that without knowing him personally. To me it just seems like a bunch of losers who are butthurt from him being a billionaire. If he really was as stupid as people make him out to be, why not replace him with someone who could actually do the job better?
Apparently there are some people speculating that he doesn't even know how to program or engineer stuff and that the people he hired are the ones doing all that?acknowledging the reality of his assension to the top of a few companies does not entail being butthurt, it involves acknowledging that he did not 'work' his way to the top, but spent his way to the top.
If that's true, my question is how someone would even fucking know that without knowing him personally. To me it just seems like a bunch of losers who are butthurt from him being a billionaire. If he really was as stupid as people make him out to be, why not replace him with someone who could actually do the job better?
Elon is smarter than everyone on these boards combined. If you don't think so , you are the problem. Hard cold facts.I mean apparently lok has an IQ of 170 so
Above average intelligence, sure.