Do you think having an obsession with guns is a dangerous threat?
Do you think having an OBSESSION with guns is a dangerous threat?
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Accept you have a fucking problem in America and it is getting worse, more guns will not fix it too.
They need to be banned fully and them removed from everyone or these shootings will keep happening
And so begins the daily guns are fine arguments. 18 school shootings this year alone.
Accept you have a fucking problem in America and it is getting worse, more guns will not fix it too. They need to be banned fully and them removed from everyone or these shootings will keep happening
And so begins the daily guns are fine arguments. 18 school shootings this year alone.
Accept you have a fucking problem in America and it is getting worse, more guns will not fix it too. They need to be banned fully and them removed from everyone or these shootings will keep happening
Babbit55 posted...
Accept you have a fucking problem in America and it is getting worse, more guns will not fix it too.
They won't make it worse either.
Babbit55 posted...
They need to be banned fully and them removed from everyone or these shootings will keep happening
That'd just increase police homicides.
Babbit55 posted...
And so begins the daily guns are fine arguments. 18 school shootings this year alone.
Accept you have a fucking problem in America and it is getting worse, more guns will not fix it too. They need to be banned fully and them removed from everyone or these shootings will keep happening
If the problem was actually just guns, it would have been worse years ago back when schools had rifle clubs and gun ownership was more widespread (since nowadays it's more a matter of fewer people owning more guns). However, since adding restriction after restriction and reducing the number of legal gun owners, mass shootings have only INCREASED. If you're going to cite anything as a problem, maybe you should criticize adding regulations.
As for the "18 school shootings," that's a bullshit misleading claim which conflates domestic disputes happening on school grounds with mass shootings.
If the police didnt have the worry that the person stopped for a normal reason, would they be as likely to jump shoot?
Babbit55 posted...
If the police didnt have the worry that the person stopped for a normal reason, would they be as likely to jump shoot?
I'm saying the police would get gunned down.
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
If the police didnt have the worry that the person stopped for a normal reason, would they be as likely to jump shoot?
I'm saying the police would get gunned down.
Oh yes, less guns means more gun crime!
Babbit55 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
If the police didnt have the worry that the person stopped for a normal reason, would they be as likely to jump shoot?
I'm saying the police would get gunned down.
Oh yes, less guns means more gun crime!
I mean, after adding the regulations, less people had guns. And it seems like gun crime went up, so yes...?
The thing I don't understand about the "guns are just tools" argument is that its proponents always balk when you suggest treating them like tools.
I mean, let's look at another tool that has been responsible for a great deal of death and mayhem: the car. Just like guns, it has completely defensible uses. Just like guns, millions of law-abiding owners use them daily. And just like guns, they can be used - intentionally or otherwise - to seriously injure or kill innocent bystanders.
So when cars started becoming widespread around the turn of the 20th century and people suddenly noticed that a lot of people were dying to them, we fucking changed things.
Laws around cars were tightened up considerably. To this day every car on the road has to be registered with the government and insured. Stupid shit that was clearly killing people, like driving while drunk, was outlawed. Safety features, like crumple zones, seat belts, and airbags, were developed and eventually legally mandated on all new cars. And in order to even operate a car in the first place, a potential driver must be of a minimum age and must pass a series of examinations in order to prove that they can safely operate the vehicle; and if they later prove that they can no longer be trusted with that responsibility, their right to operate the vehicle is restricted or removed altogether.
End result? Car deaths peaked in 1970 and have been dropping ever since, despite the fact that there are more vehicles now than ever. Deaths per vehicle-miles-travelled have been dropping almost unabated since the 1920s when the first of these regulations were implemented.
Guns, on the other hand, have been merrily sailing in the other direction with predictable results. Safety features - like limiting magazine size - are vigorously fought by the NRA, while what flimsy regulations exist have been steadily stripped away since the 70s. Make the suggestion about creating a national gun registry and watch as gun advocates recoil in horror. What few protections exist on who can own and purchase a gun have next to no enforcement and are easily circumvented and, in many areas, no proof-of-training or background checks are required and the only thing needed to buy a gun is proof of age and sufficient cash. End result? Gun deaths have remained steadily high and virtually unaltered in the last 20 years, despite the fact that the rate of gun ownership has dropped by nearly a quarter over the same time period.
If you truly believe guns are tools, treat them that way. It won't fully solve the problem, but it would certainly help.
Zeus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
And so begins the daily guns are fine arguments. 18 school shootings this year alone.
Accept you have a fucking problem in America and it is getting worse, more guns will not fix it too. They need to be banned fully and them removed from everyone or these shootings will keep happening
If the problem was actually just guns, it would have been worse years ago back when schools had rifle clubs and gun ownership was more widespread (since nowadays it's more a matter of fewer people owning more guns). However, since adding restriction after restriction and reducing the number of legal gun owners, mass shootings have only INCREASED. If you're going to cite anything as a problem, maybe you should criticize adding regulations.
As for the "18 school shootings," that's a bullshit misleading claim which conflates domestic disputes happening on school grounds with mass shootings.
Yeah sorry 12 of them were around the school grounds, so much better right? 28 mass shootings so far this year.... But no, guns arent the problem, just the common fucking denominator
No, America has half hearted gun regs that it doesn't enforce.
we'd see far fewer overall deaths *including* fewer gun deaths considering that murder is often linked to alcohol consumption.
Zeus posted...
we'd see far fewer overall deaths *including* fewer gun deaths considering that murder is often linked to alcohol consumption.
Drunk driving is RARELY ever called murder.
Hes talking about someone getting boozed up and shooting their neighbor. Not drunk driving.
