Which world are you using?
silver surfer. he's invincible until you take away his board.
ernieforss posted...
silver surfer. he's invincible until you take away his board.
the board isn't the source to his power. he could simply create another board
Idk about avengers but I'm 100% certain the joker would easily defeat and be more dangerous than Freddy Kruger Jason voorhees leatherface the hellrsiser cennobites, Michael Myers, etc etc.
Simple undeniable reason- the rest always loose to a bunch of teens, it takes minimum of the batman to take down the joker....
And that's mostly cause he somewhat sees batman as a game and wants to be caught.
Idk about avengers but I'm 100% certain the joker would easily defeat and be more dangerous than Freddy Kruger Jason voorhees leatherface the hellrsiser cennobites, Michael Myers, etc etc.
Simple undeniable reason- the rest always loose to a bunch of teens, it takes minimum of the batman to take down the joker....
And that's mostly cause he somewhat sees batman as a game and wants to be caught.
Conner4REAL posted...
Idk about avengers but I'm 100% certain the joker would easily defeat and be more dangerous than Freddy Kruger Jason voorhees leatherface the hellrsiser cennobites, Michael Myers, etc etc.
Simple undeniable reason- the rest always loose to a bunch of teens, it takes minimum of the batman to take down the joker....
And that's mostly cause he somewhat sees batman as a game and wants to be caught.
joker is only more dangerous because he goes for high body counts at times, and the simple fact the bats keeps letting him live. if batman had killed him the first time they went against each other (which was actually the original idea, but they decided the joker was too good of a character to be a one off villain) joker would be nothing but a footnote in gotham's history
mooreandrew58 posted...
Conner4REAL posted...
Idk about avengers but I'm 100% certain the joker would easily defeat and be more dangerous than Freddy Kruger Jason voorhees leatherface the hellrsiser cennobites, Michael Myers, etc etc.
Simple undeniable reason- the rest always loose to a bunch of teens, it takes minimum of the batman to take down the joker....
And that's mostly cause he somewhat sees batman as a game and wants to be caught.
joker is only more dangerous because he goes for high body counts at times, and the simple fact the bats keeps letting him live. if batman had killed him the first time they went against each other (which was actually the original idea, but they decided the joker was too good of a character to be a one off villain) joker would be nothing but a footnote in gotham's history
And yet/ a bunch of TEENS regularly take out the others. Many times repeat....
You just proved my point.
Also batman was more along the lines of Adam west back in the day....
Then again so was the joker.
I'll give you that- pre frank miller era batman and joker and all of them were probably only slightly more capable than a bunch of untrained teens making stupid decisions.
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.
Conner4REAL posted...
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.
DC and Marvel have very different sets of rules where "death" is concerned though.
Conner4REAL posted...
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.
yeah I was saying they'd make some sort of explanation though, that he didn't really die, or alternate timeline/universe. so thats kind of different than having a dude that no matter how many times you kill he'll just undeniably come back.
I mean if they really really wanted to they could use the lazarus pit, but that would take some pretty convenient story telling as to how and why he got access to it.
mooreandrew58 posted...
Conner4REAL posted...
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.
yeah I was saying they'd make some sort of explanation though, that he didn't really die, or alternate timeline/universe. so thats kind of different than having a dude that no matter how many times you kill he'll just undeniably come back.
I mean if they really really wanted to they could use the lazarus pit, but that would take some pretty convenient story telling as to how and why he got access to it.
Not as such. Joker has swam into the batcave before just for the lolz and that's not even the only known pit in the world. That's like 7 miles underwater to begin with. Like I said before, Joker has plot armor in spades.
WhiskeyDisk posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Conner4REAL posted...
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.
yeah I was saying they'd make some sort of explanation though, that he didn't really die, or alternate timeline/universe. so thats kind of different than having a dude that no matter how many times you kill he'll just undeniably come back.
I mean if they really really wanted to they could use the lazarus pit, but that would take some pretty convenient story telling as to how and why he got access to it.
Not as such. Joker has swam into the batcave before just for the lolz and that's not even the only known pit in the world. That's like 7 miles underwater to begin with. Like I said before, Joker has plot armor in spades.
the lazurus pit is heavily guarded by assassins. where as the bat cave is guarded by an old (though capable I admit) butler when batman's not home.
mooreandrew58 posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Conner4REAL posted...
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.
yeah I was saying they'd make some sort of explanation though, that he didn't really die, or alternate timeline/universe. so thats kind of different than having a dude that no matter how many times you kill he'll just undeniably come back.
I mean if they really really wanted to they could use the lazarus pit, but that would take some pretty convenient story telling as to how and why he got access to it.
Not as such. Joker has swam into the batcave before just for the lolz and that's not even the only known pit in the world. That's like 7 miles underwater to begin with. Like I said before, Joker has plot armor in spades.
the lazurus pit is heavily guarded by assassins. where as the bat cave is guarded by an old (though capable I admit) butler when batman's not home.
At least the god-damned Fortress of Solitude has a security system ffs...
Physical strength? Hulk by far. Power? The strongest Avenger is probably Vision.
wasn't there a marvel character that could easily change reality? to me those are always the most OP characters. I mean if they desire they can just erase you.
Zeus posted...
Physical strength? Hulk by far. Power? The strongest Avenger is probably Vision.
With the exception of planet hulk hulk dr strange just whimmed hulk into other dimensions....
mooreandrew58 posted...
wasn't there a marvel character that could easily change reality? to me those are always the most OP characters. I mean if they desire they can just erase you.
You might be thinking of Jamie Braddock. IIRC getting within like 30 of that crazy mofos pulls you into some sort of pocket dimension that his psychosis creates.
And that's ignoring a dozen other randos that have their own reality distortion fields...
Comic wise- dr strange took on death.
Didn't win, didn't die is the pointX the same death thanos was obsessed with and wanted to fuck (the real reason he gathered the infinity stones), eternity being the opposite being.
If this confuses you it's cause you not reading comics w cosmic or greater level heroes.
idk I feel like he was somehow related to x-man comics.
mooreandrew58 posted...
idk I feel like he was somehow related to x-man comics.
Legion maybe? IDK, lately it seems Omega level powers are handed out like candy and being the kid of any of the Omegas is a guarantee of Omega powers too from what I can tell though there's no explanation as to why...
Legion has on the best of days a tenuous grip on his powers but iirc was Xavier or Magneto's kid, he may as well be as fucked as Jamie Braddock, though you can at least have a sensible conversation with Legion when he's lucid...
But didn't the joker "come back" in the same way?
Someone wanted to make more money and keep it going?
Even if they did have batman kill the joker, if enough money is to be made, he would come back. That is true of all comics.