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CyricZ posted...
And being their parent, would you attempt to correct your child on this?

That's the point I'm making. As a person responsible for another person's life, you owe it to them to give them the best information and direction they can get for their own decisions, and if you knew they were making poor decisions, resort to discipline when all else fails.

OSHA regulates your employer, not you. Unless you have a controlling stake in your place of business, believing you will shoulder these regulatory burdens is fallacious.

So in that sense, your employer is the parent and responsible for your health and safety while present at the workplace, and that includes making sure you don't willfully go against their safety policies. Doing so can result in disciplinary action up to and including termination, and that's true of every company in the US that OSHA applies to.

Unfortunately for your argument, the best you can do is present a scenario which I honestly don't believe is likely. I personally work at a firm that required the vaccine when the first doses were coming out back in early 2021. Everyone took it. They even had the carrot of having a big barbecue once everyone's vaccination was complete.

I don't feel this concern of people walking out and causing your own work to pile up holds.
As their parent, I can only do so much. At some point the burden of responsibility falls on them. If my kids were meth addicts or liked BASE jumping I would do everything in my power to get them to stop. But at the end of the day, short of restraining them, the decision is ultimately theirs. Id feel like a failure of a parent to be sure, but Im sure whatever therapist I ended up going to would tell me it wasnt my fault and that I did all that I could.

Now if youre trying to liken the government to being a parent, Id have to disagree with the premise, since being a parent doesnt come with monetary rewards for choosing oil over renewable or being in the pocket of a pharmaceutical company with a ceo that says we wont be free from COVID with less than 6 booster shots of a vaccine that his company produces.

Im sorry for not being more exact with my words, Im aware OSHA controls my employer and not me. Ultimately, though, whatever rules OSHA makes, my employer is forced to enforce on me, whether I like them or not.

As for you doubting whether people would quit or not, I cant be certain that would be the case, just as you cant be certain they wouldnt. Sure, people didnt quit en masse at your place of employment, but you dont necessarily work in a red state as a welder/spray painter/other blue collar job where people would do anything to keep the government out of their lives. And lets be honest, at least half the population is dumb as fuck and many of them actively make choices that run contrary to their best interests. Im honestly shocked you think so highly of people. Ive certainly seen people quit their jobs over less principled, hot button issue, stances.

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