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If he has 15-16 and more masters 1000s with a gold medal and a great record against Fed, he's in the conversation if you ask a real tennis fan not blinded by hate.
Not if 90% of them are achieved on clay. It is already a forgone conclusion that Nadal IS the best clay court player of all time (I will not argue with you on that because I firmly agree) just as it is now a forgone conclusion that Roger Federer IS the greatest tennis player of all time. For the love of god, the man is still breaking records at 31.
Seriously Nadal fans/fan, do you honestly think Nadal is comparable with Federer besides his dominance on clay? Be real honest here. Hell, even the H2H which is basically the bread and butter of Nadal's resume benefits majorly from the fact that most of the wins were on clay. It is no secret that Federer has major match-up issues with Nadal on any court but the old man still enjoys a combined 8-6 H2H on Hard and Grass courts.
Seriously. Just take a real close look at the H2H
Hard Court: Federer 6-5 Nadal
Grass Court: Federer 2-1 Nadal
Clay Court: Federer 2-12 Nadal
Grand Slams: Federer 2-8 Nadal (5 of them were won by Nadal on 'clay')
So lets say Federer and Nadal played 14 times on grass or hard instead of clay. Do you honestly think Nadal would have won 12 out of 14 times there.
Nadal has a LONG LONG LOOOONG way to go before he is even in the argument of the GOAT title. For starters, he needs to win more titles on courts besides clay (Just so you know more than 70% of his titles are on clay) He has to win a WTF title for a change, already 6 behind Federer. He then has to sustain the No.1 ranking for more weeks than Federer (very very unlikely). There are many unbreakable Federer records that Nadal can even dream (some literally impossible) of so no Nadal will probably never be the GOAT. Sorry.
Nadal might come close to Federer's slam total after winning like 10 French Opens but if he really wants the GOAT title, he has to assert his dominance on surfaces not called red.
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