Kyuubi4269 posted... A primary advantage of masculinity is pushing eachother to improve. To not end up in a panic to thr point of crying because you know how to proceed. To indulge in competitive play and the pursuit of improvement. It's toxic to teach that as malicious. People specififying sports are just stuck in the old ways, that's not masculinity, that's traditionalism. Telling people not to cry when there isn't a solution isn't toxic masculinity, it's ignorance of the situation and stubbornness.
I've never really thought of competitiveness as a strictly masculine trait. Seems just like a common trait of humans, particularly prideful ones. That aside, none of those things are toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity isn't saying that stereotypical masculinity is bad, it's saying the SOCIETAL EXPECTATION of men to live up to that "manly" lifestyle and avoid "girly" things is harmful. Like, there's nothing wrong with being stereotypically manly, it's just that if you shame men for not fitting into that mold and make them feel like they have no choice but to try and be like that or they're no longer a man. Basically, when men and women impose the popular idea of what it means to "be a man" onto men and shame them for not living up to it. The key part of it all is societal expectations making people feel like they don't have a choice and the shaming of people who don't fit the mold or don't try to.
Side note, toxic femininity is pretty much the exact same thing just swap men with women and stereotypical masculinity with stereotypical femininity.
Side side note, toxic masculinity is a terrible name 'cause it makes it sound like you're saying masculinity itself is toxic. It took me forever to understand it myself 'cause the name make most explanations that much harder to convey.
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