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darkknight109 posted...
I mean, I've already stated my personal standard - no mocking death, no exceptions - but I acknowledge that I'm not in the majority in holding that view.

But no, it has nothing to do with government approval. All of the people you named previous are people who used violence, rape, and murder to achieve their goals. Charlie Kirk did not. Whatever you think of his views - and they were vile, no arguments there - all he did was talk. Reasonable people should agree that that should not earn him a bullet to the throat.

He contributed to the rhetoric of violence, rape, and murder. Like dictators who didn't personally get their hands dirty. Again, nobody's going to cry at a KKK member's death. Nor would they cry at someone making fun of and harassing a raped and murdered child victim's grieving family snapping and killing them.

darkknight109 posted...
"I don't want to behave like MAGA, I just want to do the exact same thing that they're doing." Are you even listening to yourself anymore?

That exact same statement applies to gerrymandering which you support. Meanwhile you: I'm just going to die on the hill of pearl clutching for a dead Nazi who supported the very sort of violence that killed him. I'm definitely less of a far righter like him than the ones making fun of him!

darkknight109 posted...
Wrong. I am trying to preserve whatever sanity is left on the American left, because the American right is very clearly a lost cause. Again, I find it frankly alarming that people in this topic seem to have absolutely no issue aping MAGA's behaviours, because of "fighting fire with fire" or some bullshit like that.

This will not give you any advantage. This will not return your country to sane governance. There is no gain to be had in behaving like a toddler with rage issues - not unless you want to slap on a red cap and go join the other guys.

Nothing about fighting MAGA and the far right behooves you to act like them. If anything, doing so gives them the ultimate victory, because it proves that their approach works and is the way that politics is supposed to be done. I hope I don't have to explain why that's a disastrous line of reasoning.

I am not doing this out of any concern for Charlie Kirk or any others of his ilk. I do not expect, nor want, anyone to venerate him or remember him as anything other than what he was - a hateful troll who learned, in his last moments on this plane of existence, that the hate and anger you send out into the world have a nasty tendency to get reflected back at you in ways you neither like nor expect. But perhaps that lesson is one that more people should take heed of - even those whose politics are diametrically opposed to Kirk's.

You're not even American so you're speaking out your ass with no clue what you're talking about. The people screaming to uphold decorum have failed. The "lost cause" are the ones that are in charge and the majority. Fighting fire with fire is a possible solution out. Yeah, go tell the Nepalese youth that their corrupt dictator is a lost cause so they shouldn't be stooping as low as them, that they might as well just be part of the other guys. The allies might well have put on swastikas when they bombed the nazis and imperial japan.
darkknight109 posted...
Come on, dude, don't be obtuse. This is not the same situation and you know it perfectly well.

If Herman Cain Awards were awarded to people who got stabbed in the night by vigilante groups hunting down the unvaccinated, then you would have a similar scenario. That is not what happened.

No, it's you being obtuse and hypocritical, trying to deny it's the same scenario.
Kirk claimed gun deaths are to be expected to keep the 2nd amendment alive. He claimed empathy is a weakness. And now he got both of them. Just like Herman Cain recipients got the deaths from the disease they mocked and scoffed at.


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