Current Events > This democrat in Maine running for Susan Collins' seat seems cool

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https://twitter.com/grahamformaine/status/1957780836062826868

But he's running on Universal Healthcare and ending wars so y'know, can't have that.

Are you sure this isn't for a show on the same block as Anthony Bourdain

Is it really called a 'mainer'?

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

Is it really called a 'mainer'?

Yes.

Susan Collins is not really very beloved here anymore. She was considered a fairly level headed moderate in the past, and she's been coasting on that and the dumbasses up north for support. I do think her time is limited, but it won't necessarily be easy.

Angus King has been a great senator at least.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

Is it really called a 'mainer'?

Probably maines Inkling in Smash

Hopefully he wins.

It's past time for her to be shown the door. Yet she always manages to pull off the "dopey grandma" look and it works every time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3d370775.jpg
They gotta start cloning this guy

Sounds like a good chap.

Go get em Tiger

I'm liking what he's putting down.

So do we know if this guy has a real chance of winning?

Concerned Collins needs to be taken down.

He'll never stand a chance in Maine if he's not concerned enough.

Hes got zohrans ad guy. Lets see if he can replicate his success

It's a contested primary. There's a likelihood Governor Janet Mills gets in on this, too.

Smashingpmkns posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3d370775.jpg
They gotta start cloning this guy

Nice man

https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1958585128713920806

https://twitter.com/grahamformaine/status/1958627159679148413

Dude was saying Free Palestine since 1995.

He is cool in my book.

Well damn son. Based on everything so far, this is the kinda guy that could get me invested.

opopopza posted...

Angus King has been a great senator at least.

He's been pretty good, not perfect but miles better than Collins. He spoke at my sister's high school graduation, too!

https://x.com/TheMaineWire/status/1958925802483196174

This is not the statement of an informed individual and I really hope this primary gets someone better lest Collins cruise to reelection again.

(lahbstah intensifies)

opopopza posted...

Susan Collins is not really very beloved here anymore. She was considered a fairly level headed moderate in the past, and she's been coasting on that and the dumbasses up north for support. I do think her time is limited, but it won't necessarily be easy.

People have been saying this for what 20 years now?

LightSnake posted...

https://x.com/TheMaineWire/status/1958925802483196174

This is not the statement of an informed individual and I really hope this primary gets someone better lest Collins cruise to reelection again.

Except in the actual clip he doesn't say what the tweet says he does.

Seems like a decent guy, so he probably has no chance.

sfcalimari posted...

(lahbstah intensifies)

People have been saying this for what 20 years now?

Not really, 2020 was the first time she faced actual competition and was close to losing a majority of votes. Previously she was able to coast into re-election pretty easily.

But who will farm the oysters if hes in the senate seat?

LightSnake posted...

https://x.com/TheMaineWire/status/1958925802483196174

This is not the statement of an informed individual and I really hope this primary gets someone better lest Collins cruise to reelection again.

What statement are you referring to?

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

This is not the statement of an informed individual and I really hope this primary gets someone better lest Collins cruise to reelection again.

What statement are you referring to?

"All that money is going out the door to find a genocide."

I know this guy is saying all the right things that the internet loves, but Collins would absolutely annihilate him in an actual match up

Unless you're saying he's claiming that all the money used to fund the genocide in gaza is what would pay for medicare for all, which I could see a pedantic but deeply unserious person say based on his phrasing of "all that", I really have no clue what your issue is.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

Unless you're saying he's claiming that all the money used to fund the genocide in gaza is what would pay for medicare for all, which I could see a pedantic but deeply unserious person say based on his phrasing of "all that", I really have no clue what your issue is.

Well, maybe I'm just skeptical and suspicious of deeply online people with almost no experience running for office by saying things a very small but extremely vocal slice of the electorate loves while claiming things that are factually very incorrect.

We're already at the point of his fans getting upset when he's criticized and saying you can't hold him accountable for ignorant stuff he actually says. No, it's not a bad faith reading to say his "we can't give people medicare and housing because all that money is going out to fund a genocide" is ignorant and dumb. It's criticizing what he actually said.

LightSnake posted...

Well, maybe I'm just skeptical and suspicious of deeply online people with almost no experience running for office by saying things a very small but extremely vocal slice of the electorate loves while claiming things that are factually very incorrect.

We're already at the point of his fans getting upset when he's criticized and saying you can't hold him accountable for ignorant stuff he actually says. No, it's not a bad faith reading to say his "we can't give people medicare and housing because all that money is going out to fund a genocide" is ignorant and dumb. It's criticizing what he actually said.

I don't know, recent elections have kinda shown that the electorate prefers ignorance to pragmatism.

This guy could be the perfect bellwether test to see if the Zohran strategy works for anyone else

myusernameislame posted...

I don't know, recent elections have kinda shown that the electorate prefers ignorance to pragmatism.

I'm not so sure this works in a statewide Maine race.

Goddamn who keeps posting

MaxEffingBemis posted...

Goddamn who keeps posting

Max you can see my posts, we both know it. You keep doing this in topics just to troll. It's not funny and nobody cares.

I don't know why Medicare for All breaks liberals brains

El_Dustino posted...

I don't know why Medicare for All breaks liberals brains

Well, for one thing, it's less a policy and more a bludgeon that was used for years to call anyone who proposed any other form of healthcare expansion or even alternative form of universal healthcare a soulless neoliberal who wanted people to die on the street. That and the specific policy polled like absolute dirty when people actually found out what it actually did.

Second is that in this context, saying "we don't have MFA because the money is being sent to Israel" is actually a completely insane thing to spread around and is a nativist talking point that originated on the right.

But sure, I'm sure sliding up behind some dude because he fits a very specific aesthetic of masculinity and assuming that makes him a working class champion will work out great and hasn't even backfired in the past. Like, is it too much to ask the guy get a solid vetting after he shows himself to be publicly ignorant?

If you don't want some form of universal healthcare you do want people to die in the street.

El_Dustino posted...

If you don't want some form of universal healthcare you do want people to die in the street.

It's like you didn't even bother to read what I actually wrote.

Well, for one thing, it's less a policy and more a bludgeon that was used for years to call anyone who proposed any other form of healthcare expansion or even alternative form of universal healthcare a soulless neoliberal who wanted people to die on the street. That and the specific policy polled like absolute dirty when people actually found out what it actually did.

No, I don't think having Switzerland's healthcare system would be the worst thing ever. It was constantly pointed out that only a small amount of countries even use single payer healthcare only to be met by shrieks of rage.

Medicare for All was just a way to attack people from their left. It had no chance of becoming policy, it wasn't even good policy. It polled like absolute trash once you actually told people what it did. And no, the issue with affording it is not foreign aid.

opopopza posted...

Susan Collins is not really very beloved here anymore. She was considered a fairly level headed moderate in the past, and she's been coasting on that and the dumbasses up north for support. I do think her time is limited, but it won't necessarily be easy.

It's insane that she keeps getting away with the fake-moderate act, when she's so obviously just a party-line Republican every time it matters.

Painting funding a genocide as "foreign aid" is a choice.

I read what you said, I was responding to the "other form of healthcare expansion," said like it was equivalent to any form of universal healthcare. I'm open to most forms of universal healthcare, but anything that is not universal allows people to die in the street. Anything not universal as an end goal means you want people to die in the street.

El_Dustino posted...

Painting funding a genocide as "foreign aid" is a choice.

This is some bad faith bullshit and you know it.

Please look up how much the US spares on money to Israel and then look up how much the US spends on Medicaid and Medicare per year. While you're at it, look up the most optimistic estimates of how much M4A would cost and then stop tap dancing around the actual substance of what he said.

I read what you said, I was responding to the "other form of healthcare expansion," said like it was equivalent to any form of universal healthcare. I'm open to most forms of universal healthcare, but anything that is not universal allows people to die in the street. Anything not universal as an end goal means you want people to die in the street.

and therein goes to my old point: M4A was less policy and more a bludgeon. It meant "the good thing" so you could just accuse anyone who had any questions about it as a soulless corporate shill who wanted people dead.

Now you have this guy who's "we can't give people healthcare because we're funding another country." Forgive me for being a little sus of these faux-macho dudes who speak in platitudes and lie freely. These are major Ironstache and Fetterman vibes now, but I'm sure this tendency to leap right aboard aesthetics will work this time