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Inviso 05/25/23 4:29:58 PM #1:	What has been the best season of Survivor's new era? - Results (25 votes) 41 8% (2 votes) 2 42 56% (14 votes) 14 43 16% (4 votes) 4 44 20% (5 votes) 5 Per the previous request, new topic with no spoilers for last night's Survivor finale. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:973713594] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote> What has been the best season of Survivor's new era? - Results (25 votes) 41 8% (2 votes) 2 42 56% (14 votes) 14 43 16% (4 votes) 4 44 20% (5 votes) 5 Show Voting Form Per the previous request, new topic with no spoilers for last night's Survivor finale. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 05/25/23 4:43:51 PM #2:	Previously on Survivor... Aw, whatever. I watched last night's and hardly care now. And no, I don't hate Heidi. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:973713898] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Previously on Survivor...Aw, whatever. I watched last night's and hardly care now.And no, I don't hate Heidi. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/25/23 4:46:02 PM #3:	I think Heidi is pretty boring for most of the game, up until the final 11. If you look at her as a storyline of someone who wants to make big moves, and they constantly either wind up failing, or just doing nothing to benefit her as she intends, then she doesn't have a terrible edit. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:973713941] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>I think Heidi is pretty boring for most of the game, up until the final 11. If you look at her as a storyline of someone who wants to make big moves, and they constantly either wind up failing, or just doing nothing to benefit her as she intends, then she doesn't have a terrible edit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 05/25/23 10:07:05 PM #4:	I think Carolyn could have done better in front of the Jury. I wanted to see her talk about the early game and the sanctuary with Danny and Brandon Well earned win by Yam Yam though! --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:973720039] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>I think Carolyn could have done better in front of the Jury. I wanted to see her talk about the early game and the sanctuary with Danny and BrandonWell earned win by Yam Yam though!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/25/23 11:29:01 PM #5:	Really disappointing result but I think it says more about the edit than the jury themselves. I think what I said tracks with the jury: I do think Yam Yam could win since he's super convincing socially, especially in the recent episodes where they've shown him talking 1:1. Carolyn is more generally likably but not 1:1 likable. Yam Yam had DAYS of brilliant jury management that was just too boring for TV. But probably all of Carolyn's big moves were put in. So it looks even in the edit but in reality Yam Yam was ridiculously strong. Carolyn was undeniably smarter and bolder in the game though. I wished she got some votes for that alone, esp from Carson. But as much as everyone is a gamebot, it seems like socials do rule this game as much as ever. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:973721348] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Really disappointing result but I think it says more about the edit than the jury themselves.I think what I said tracks with the jury:<quote>I do think Yam Yam could win since he's super convincing socially, especially in the recent episodes where they've shown him talking 1:1. Carolyn is more generally likably but not 1:1 likable.</quote>Yam Yam had DAYS of brilliant jury management that was just too boring for TV. But probably all of Carolyn's big moves were put in. So it looks even in the edit but in reality Yam Yam was ridiculously strong.Carolyn was undeniably smarter and bolder in the game though. I wished she got some votes for that alone, esp from Carson. But as much as everyone is a gamebot, it seems like socials do rule this game as much as ever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dels 05/25/23 11:54:44 PM #6:	yeah i think there's a difference between, like, "oh, i can see now that this person is worthy of respect and has many admirable qualities" and "i personally get along with this person well" and i think people were being genuine when they praised carolyn in the former way but i guess its still not equal to the latter <cite>Dels posted [p:973721762] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>yeah i think there's a difference between, like, "oh, i can see now that this person is worthy of respect and has many admirable qualities" and "i personally get along with this person well" and i think people were being genuine when they praised carolyn in the former way but i guess its still not equal to the latter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/26/23 7:30:05 AM #7:	It's important to note that, even though Carolyn got a very strong edit that pushed her as a contender...Yam Yam still ended the season with 80 confessionals and is like, the 6th-highest confessional count EVER. So we definitely got to see his game in full and understand why he could get votes come the endgame. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:973725766] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>It's important to note that, even though Carolyn got a very strong edit that pushed her as a contender...Yam Yam still ended the season with 80 confessionals and is like, the 6th-highest confessional count EVER. So we definitely got to see his game in full and understand why he could get votes come the endgame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/27/23 12:44:28 PM #8:	Inviso posted... It's important to note that, even though Carolyn got a very strong edit that pushed her as a contender...Yam Yam still ended the season with 80 confessionals and is like, the 6th-highest confessional count EVER. So we definitely got to see his game in full and understand why he could get votes come the endgame. Off the top of my head, four of those ahead of him are Russell in Samoa, Rob in Amazon, Tai in Kaoh Rong, and Richard in Borneo --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:973750674] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite><quote>It's important to note that, even though Carolyn got a very strong edit that pushed her as a contender...Yam Yam still ended the season with 80 confessionals and is like, the 6th-highest confessional count EVER. So we definitely got to see his game in full and understand why he could get votes come the endgame.</quote>Off the top of my head, four of those ahead of him are Russell in Samoa, Rob in Amazon, Tai in Kaoh Rong, and Richard in Borneo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/28/23 9:26:23 AM #9:	Since when are confessionals where you see a player's game? --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:973768024] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Since when are confessionals where you see a player's game? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/28/23 9:48:01 AM #10:	foolm0r0n posted... Since when are confessionals where you see a player's game? For a while now. It used to be that we'd see scenes of strategizing and we might get confessionals to explain what we just saw, but somewhere along the line, producers just started putting in confessionals to justify their winners. We saw it with Gabler, how production would regularly give him confessionals to justify his under-the-radar strategy in 43, Fabio was constantly given "I'm gonna play dumb" confessionals in Nicaragua. That sorta thing. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:973768242] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted... </cite><quote>Since when are confessionals where you see a player's game?</quote>For a while now. It used to be that we'd see scenes of strategizing and we might get confessionals to explain what we just saw, but somewhere along the line, producers just started putting in confessionals to justify their winners. We saw it with Gabler, how production would regularly give him confessionals to justify his under-the-radar strategy in 43, Fabio was constantly given "I'm gonna play dumb" confessionals in Nicaragua. That sorta thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/28/23 9:55:59 AM #11:	Also, I was wrong. Yam Yam had 83 confessionals and is NINTH overall, not sixth. He is, however, the second-highest confessional count in the back half of Survivor's history at this point, and third-highest since Heroes vs. Villains. Russell Hantz (Samoa) - 108 Rob Cesternino (Amazon) - 101 Colby Donaldson (Australia) - 98 Tony Vlachos (Cagayan) - 97 Rob Mariano (Redemption Island) - 97 Richard Hatch (Borneo) - 92 Kelly Wiglesworth (Borneo) - 85 Lex van den Berghe (Africa) - 84 Yamil "Yam Yam" Arocho (44) - 83 Kathy Vavrick-O'Brien (Marquesas) - 82 --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:973768316] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Also, I was wrong. Yam Yam had 83 confessionals and is NINTH overall, not sixth. He is, however, the second-highest confessional count in the back half of Survivor's history at this point, and third-highest since Heroes vs. Villains.Russell Hantz (Samoa) - 108Rob Cesternino (Amazon) - 101Colby Donaldson (Australia) - 98Tony Vlachos (Cagayan) - 97Rob Mariano (Redemption Island) - 97Richard Hatch (Borneo) - 92Kelly Wiglesworth (Borneo) - 85Lex van den Berghe (Africa) - 84Yamil "Yam Yam" Arocho (44) - 83Kathy Vavrick-O'Brien (Marquesas) - 82</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/28/23 11:04:51 AM #12:	Oh wow, I thought Tai had some ungodly number of confessionals in 32. I remember someone saying that that season had the most overall confessionals since Borneo, and knew he had the most in that season, so maybe that's why. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:973769160] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Oh wow, I thought Tai had some ungodly number of confessionals in 32. I remember someone saying that that season had the most overall confessionals since Borneo, and knew he had the most in that season, so maybe that's why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 05/28/23 11:12:34 AM #13:	Tai had 74, which is still high, but only those ten I listed hit 80 or more. Tai had 74, Aubry had 70, Michele had 57, and those are already extremely high numbers for the final three alone. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:973769272] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Tai had 74, which is still high, but only those ten I listed hit 80 or more.Tai had 74, Aubry had 70, Michele had 57, and those are already extremely high numbers for the final three alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/28/23 11:18:14 AM #14:	Inviso posted... Michele had 57 This is quite surprising to me, since I always felt like she seemed under-edited, especially for a winner. Maybe that harkens back to what I said about the overall number of confessionals being skewed quite high in that season. 57 there probably seemed like 40-ish in most seasons of the time. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:973769348] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite><quote>Michele had 57</quote>This is quite surprising to me, since I always felt like she seemed under-edited, especially for a winner. Maybe that harkens back to what I said about the overall number of confessionals being skewed quite high in that season. 57 there probably seemed like 40-ish in most seasons of the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/28/23 11:20:04 AM #15:	Inviso posted... He is, however, the second-highest confessional count in the back half of Survivor's history at this point, and third-highest since Heroes vs. Villains. It's so bizarre to think of Redemption Island being in the first half of Survivor history now. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:973769377] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite><quote>He is, however, the second-highest confessional count in the back half of Survivor's history at this point, and third-highest since Heroes vs. Villains.</quote>It's so bizarre to think of Redemption Island being in the first half of Survivor history now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/28/23 11:32:03 AM #16:	Out of curiosity/nerdiness I decided to compile the confessional count for winners and some of these numbers are pretty surprising. Rob - 97 Tony (28) - 97 Richard - 92 Yam-Yam - 83 Mike - 73 Tony (40) - 73 Chris D - 71 J.T. - 71 Ben - 70 Tina - 69 Ethan - 68 Cochran - 67 Jenna - 61 Todd - 60 Tom - 60 Earl - 59 Michele - 57 Brian - 56 Sandra (7) - 55 Adam - 53 Kim - 53 Nick - 53 Tommy - 52 Tyson - 48 Amber - 47 Natalie A - 46 Gabler - 45 Sarah - 45 Yul - 45 Aras - 44 Jeremy - 44 Maryanne - 43 Danni - 41 Fabio - 40 Erika - 39 Wendell - 39 Denise - 37 Vecepia - 36 Parvati - 32 Bob - 31 Sandra (20) - 27 Sophie - 25 Chris U - 23 Natalie W - 15 --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:973769541] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Out of curiosity/nerdiness I decided to compile the confessional count for winners and some of these numbers are pretty surprising.Rob - 97Tony (28) - 97Richard - 92Yam-Yam - 83Mike - 73Tony (40) - 73Chris D - 71J.T. - 71Ben - 70Tina - 69Ethan - 68Cochran - 67Jenna - 61Todd - 60Tom - 60Earl - 59Michele - 57Brian - 56Sandra (7) - 55Adam - 53Kim - 53Nick - 53Tommy - 52Tyson - 48Amber - 47Natalie A - 46Gabler - 45Sarah - 45Yul - 45Aras - 44Jeremy - 44Maryanne - 43Danni - 41Fabio - 40Erika - 39Wendell - 39Denise - 37Vecepia - 36Parvati - 32Bob - 31Sandra (20) - 27Sophie - 25Chris U - 23Natalie W - 15</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 05/28/23 11:33:38 AM #17:	Are they counting 1-liner confessionals too? --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:973769563] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Are they counting 1-liner confessionals too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/28/23 12:52:10 PM #18:	I'm pretty sure the rules are as follows: -Their chyron has to be shown for it to count as a confessional -If less than 10 seconds of footage is shown in between, it counts as the same confessional when it resumes. If 10 seconds of footage or more are shown, it's considered a new confessional when it resumes. Length of the confessional doesn't matter AFAIK --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:973770782] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure the rules are as follows:-Their chyron has to be shown for it to count as a confessional-If less than 10 seconds of footage is shown in between, it counts as the same confessional when it resumes. If 10 seconds of footage or more are shown, it's considered a new confessional when it resumes.Length of the confessional doesn't matter AFAIK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 05/28/23 1:55:38 PM #19:	Did Natalie W have any idea she won the season before the final votes were read at the live finale? the edit just makes it seem like they were trying to blindside her just as much as the viewers --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:973771868] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Did Natalie W have any idea she won the season before the final votes were read at the live finale?the edit just makes it seem like they were trying to blindside her just as much as the viewers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 05/28/23 2:08:45 PM #21:	Chaeix posted... Did Natalie W have any idea she won the season before the final votes were read at the live finale? the edit just makes it seem like they were trying to blindside her just as much as the viewers I'd think so. Shambo called Russell after filming ended to tell him that he'd lost even though she'd voted for him. Russell thought she was pulling his leg. Whoops. Juries talk about that stuff all the time and there's no real way for production to prevent it. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:973772095] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Did Natalie W have any idea she won the season before the final votes were read at the live finale?the edit just makes it seem like they were trying to blindside her just as much as the viewers</quote>I'd think so. Shambo called Russell after filming ended to tell him that he'd lost even though she'd voted for him. Russell thought she was pulling his leg. Whoops.Juries talk about that stuff all the time and there's no real way for production to prevent it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/28/23 2:42:04 PM #22:	As soon as they cut to the live show you could see it in Russell's face - he knew he had lost. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:973772708] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>As soon as they cut to the live show you could see it in Russell's face - he knew he had lost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 06/02/23 7:20:07 PM #23:	Just moving this into the new topic for reference. The cream of the crop: 1. Kaoh Rong 2. Vanuatu 3. Pearl Islands 4. San Juan Del Sur 5. China 6. Philippines Very good seasons with a few minor flaws: 7. Marquesas 8. Borneo 9. Heroes vs. Villains 10. Nicaragua 11. Guatemala 12. Gabon 13. Survivor 42 Largely solid seasons, but with some major flaws that prevent them from being better: 14. David vs. Goliath 15. Cagayan 16. Exile Island 17. Fiji 18. Amazon 19. Survivor 44 20. Survivor 41 21. Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers 22. Micronesia 23. Palau Has some distinctly negative aspects, but has enough fun and enjoyable content to not hate outright: 24. Game Changers 25. Winners at War 26. Blood vs. Water 27. Edge of Extinction 28. Samoa 29. South Pacific Mostly bland and forgettable: 30. Tocantins 31. Africa 32. One World 33. Australia 34. Ghost Island 35. Survivor 43 Extremely, extremely negative and unpleasant, but at least KINDA interesting in that negativity: 36. Thailand 37. Worlds Apart 38. Island of the Idols Aggressively boring and soulless, and revolving around a twist that honestly makes the season worse through its existence: 39. Millennials vs. Gen X 40. Cook Islands 41. Caramoan 42. Cambodia 43. All-Stars 44. Redemption Island --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:973888616] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Just moving this into the new topic for reference.The cream of the crop:1. Kaoh Rong2. Vanuatu3. Pearl Islands4. San Juan Del Sur5. China6. PhilippinesVery good seasons with a few minor flaws:7. Marquesas8. Borneo9. Heroes vs. Villains10. Nicaragua11. Guatemala12. Gabon13. Survivor 42Largely solid seasons, but with some major flaws that prevent them from being better:14. David vs. Goliath15. Cagayan16. Exile Island17. Fiji18. Amazon19. Survivor 4420. Survivor 4121. Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers22. Micronesia23. PalauHas some distinctly negative aspects, but has enough fun and enjoyable content to not hate outright:24. Game Changers25. Winners at War26. Blood vs. Water27. Edge of Extinction28. Samoa29. South PacificMostly bland and forgettable:30. Tocantins31. Africa32. One World33. Australia34. Ghost Island35. Survivor 43Extremely, extremely negative and unpleasant, but at least KINDA interesting in that negativity:36. Thailand37. Worlds Apart38. Island of the IdolsAggressively boring and soulless, and revolving around a twist that honestly makes the season worse through its existence:39. Millennials vs. Gen X40. Cook Islands41. Caramoan42. Cambodia43. All-Stars44. Redemption Island</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 06/12/23 4:46:43 PM #24:	Bottom Quadrant: 44. Island of the Idols (Season 39) 43. South Pacific (Season 23) 42. Redemption Island (Season 22) 41. All-Stars (Season 8) 40. Thailand (Season 5) 39. Caramoan (Season 26) 38. Worlds Apart (Season 30) 37. Cambodia (Season 31) 36. One World (Season 24) 35. Ghost Island (Season 36) 34. Edge of Extinction (Season 38) Lower-Middle Quadrant: 33. Survivor 43 32. Game Changers (Season 34) 31. Millennials vs. Gen X (Season 33) 30. Cook Islands (Season 13) 29. The Australian Outback (Season 2) 28. Africa (Season 3) 27. Nicaragua (Season 21) 26. Samoa (Season 19) 25. Fiji (Season 14) 24. Survivor 44 23. Palau (Season 10) Upper-Middle Quadrant: 22. Micronesia (Season 16) 21. Winners at War (Season 40) 20. Survivor 41 19. San Juan del Sur (Season 29) 18. Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers (Season 35) 17. Blood vs. Water (Season 27) 16. Borneo (Season 1) 15. Kaoh-Rong (Season 32) 14. Survivor 42 13. Heroes vs. Villains (Season 20) 12. Vanuatu (Season 9) Top Quadrant: 11. Guatemala (Season 11) 10. Tocantins (Season 18) 9. Marquesas (Season 4) 8. The Amazon (Season 6) 7. Gabon (Season 17) 6. Cagayan (Season 28) 5. David vs. Goliath (Season 37) 4. Exile Island (Season 12) 3. Philippines (Season 25) 2. China (Season 15) 1. Pearl Islands (Season 7) --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974108652] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Bottom Quadrant:44. Island of the Idols (Season 39)43. South Pacific (Season 23)42. Redemption Island (Season 22)41. All-Stars (Season 8)40. Thailand (Season 5)39. Caramoan (Season 26)38. Worlds Apart (Season 30)37. Cambodia (Season 31)36. One World (Season 24)35. Ghost Island (Season 36)34. Edge of Extinction (Season 38)Lower-Middle Quadrant:33. Survivor 4332. Game Changers (Season 34)31. Millennials vs. Gen X (Season 33)30. Cook Islands (Season 13)29. The Australian Outback (Season 2)28. Africa (Season 3)27. Nicaragua (Season 21)26. Samoa (Season 19)25. Fiji (Season 14)24. Survivor 4423. Palau (Season 10)Upper-Middle Quadrant:22. Micronesia (Season 16)21. Winners at War (Season 40)20. Survivor 4119. San Juan del Sur (Season 29)18. Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers (Season 35)17. Blood vs. Water (Season 27)16. Borneo (Season 1)15. Kaoh-Rong (Season 32)14. Survivor 4213. Heroes vs. Villains (Season 20)12. Vanuatu (Season 9)Top Quadrant:11. Guatemala (Season 11)10. Tocantins (Season 18)9. Marquesas (Season 4)8. The Amazon (Season 6)7. Gabon (Season 17)6. Cagayan (Season 28)5. David vs. Goliath (Season 37)4. Exile Island (Season 12)3. Philippines (Season 25)2. China (Season 15)1. Pearl Islands (Season 7)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 06/18/23 11:28:10 AM #25:	Bumpo --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974238486] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Bumpo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bwburke94 06/19/23 1:32:15 PM #26:	If a certain rumor being passed around the internet is true, we could have a season worse than TAR8 on our hands. --- The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed. The moment man devoured the fruit of knowledge, he sealed his fate... <cite>bwburke94 posted [p:974261765] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>If a certain rumor being passed around the internet is true, we could have a season worse than TAR8 on our hands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 06/19/23 1:40:58 PM #27:	bwburke94 posted... If a certain rumor being passed around the internet is true, we could have a season worse than TAR8 on our hands. ? --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:974261961] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>bwburke94 posted... </cite><quote>If a certain rumor being passed around the internet is true, we could have a season worse than TAR8 on our hands.</quote>?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 06/19/23 1:41:49 PM #28:	Is it the uh, ~~whole season stuck on one continent because of missed flight~~ rumor? I remember hearing that months back and couldn't believe it, but if that's still circulating/what you heard... not good! <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:974261979] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Is it the uh, whole season stuck on one continent because of missed flight rumor? I remember hearing that months back and couldn't believe it, but if that's still circulating/what you heard... not good!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 06/19/23 1:48:23 PM #29:	MartinFF7 posted... Is it the uh, ~~whole season stuck on one continent because of missed flight~~ rumor? I remember hearing that months back and couldn't believe it, but if that's still circulating/what you heard... not good! I looked it up before posting my "?" comment and all I saw was that it was rumored ~~to be entirely in South America, with BB legend Taylor Hale as a contestant. Nothing about a missed flight. I would think that's a COVID thing above all else, since the season filmed last year.~~ --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:974262132] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>MartinFF7 posted... </cite><quote>Is it the uh, whole season stuck on one continent because of missed flight rumor? I remember hearing that months back and couldn't believe it, but if that's still circulating/what you heard... not good!</quote>I looked it up before posting my "?" comment and all I saw was that it was rumored to be entirely in South America, with BB legend Taylor Hale as a contestant. Nothing about a missed flight. I would think that's a COVID thing above all else, since the season filmed last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 06/19/23 2:45:38 PM #30:	0% chance that they're stuck somewhere because of a missed flight. They have their own plane now, remember. They're probably doing an all South America season because of COVID and the fact that the last two seasons were all Europe except for two legs in Jordan. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:974263298] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>0% chance that they're stuck somewhere because of a missed flight. They have their own plane now, remember. They're probably doing an all South America season because of COVID and the fact that the last two seasons were all Europe except for two legs in Jordan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 06/19/23 3:52:38 PM #31:	Yeah maybe i'm misremembering or mixing up my rumours. I found where I think I originally read the ~~whole season in South America~~ rumor and it was posted 7 months ago so if it's still circulating without being refuted... That being said, I hadn't thought about the ~~"whole seasons in Europe" (other than brief Jordan visit)~~ like Mewtwo said above, but at least you could chalk that up to ~~COVID times. If this is true, considering we're out of the pandemic era, it reads as a pure cost-saving measure, which really doens't bode well for the future of the show either.~~ <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:974264629] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Yeah maybe i'm misremembering or mixing up my rumours. I found where I think I originally read the whole season in South America rumor and it was posted 7 months ago so if it's still circulating without being refuted...That being said, I hadn't thought about the "whole seasons in Europe" (other than brief Jordan visit) like Mewtwo said above, but at least you could chalk that up to COVID times. If this is true, considering we're out of the pandemic era, it reads as a pure cost-saving measure, which really doens't bode well for the future of the show either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 06/19/23 4:05:05 PM #32:	They filmed season 35 in October and November of last year, so we weren't quite out of the pandemic era yet. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:974264899] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>They filmed season 35 in October and November of last year, so we weren't quite out of the pandemic era yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 06/19/23 4:23:26 PM #33:	While it certainly isn't cause for optimism, I certainly don't think it's an automatic season-killer. TAR8's problems went WAY beyond just that, so if there's still a good cast with lots of drama and decent challenges, it still has potential to be a good season. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974265222] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>While it certainly isn't cause for optimism, I certainly don't think it's an automatic season-killer. TAR8's problems went WAY beyond just that, so if there's still a good cast with lots of drama and decent challenges, it still has potential to be a good season.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 06/19/23 4:35:29 PM #34:	Mewtwo59 posted... They filmed season 35 in October and November of last year, so we weren't quite out of the pandemic era yet. .....which I really should've thought of since I literally said "7 months ago" in my very same post, damn. It's a fair point and darkx also renews optimism but yeah... I guess it's not really over until we see what they do with Season 36, lol. Uh, also assuming it still gets renewed again. <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:974265438] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Mewtwo59 posted... </cite><quote>They filmed season 35 in October and November of last year, so we weren't quite out of the pandemic era yet.</quote>.....which I really should've thought of since I literally said "7 months ago" in my very same post, damn.It's a fair point and darkx also renews optimism but yeah... I guess it's not really over until we see what they do with Season 36, lol. Uh, also assuming it still gets renewed again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 06/21/23 1:19:20 AM #35:	Underleveled posted... TAR8's problems went WAY beyond just that Yeah, TAR8's problems included: -Kids -The bloated cast, where it was impossible to keep track of 40 people's names -Staying on North America due to the above -The ridiculous NEL penalty of giving up your money AND backpacks In short, Amazing Race works best when it's a dating couple arguing in the backseat of a cab because their driver who doesn't speak English got them lost, not when an 8 y/o is asking their parents "Are we there yet?" in "exotic" Pennsylvania. This won't be worse than TAR8 solely because there aren't any kids, there's a manageable cast size, and no NELs. However, TAR8 definitely set TAR down the wrong track for other reasons. Since then, the show has been more about completing menial tasks instead of actually immersing people in the cultures of the place they're visiting. It's not as "amazing" as it was back in the first 7 seasons, where sometimes they'd have to spend a night in a hotel in the middle of town mid-leg and get to see the nightlife of where they were. Or experience the local kids having fun despite being poor. Which leads me to the point of this post: Why did TAR go away from what made it so compelling in the first place? Is there any way to restore that part of it? --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:974297408] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Underleveled posted... </cite><quote>TAR8's problems went WAY beyond just that</quote>Yeah, TAR8's problems included:-Kids-The bloated cast, where it was impossible to keep track of 40 people's names-Staying on North America due to the above-The ridiculous NEL penalty of giving up your money AND backpacksIn short, Amazing Race works best when it's a dating couple arguing in the backseat of a cab because their driver who doesn't speak English got them lost, not when an 8 y/o is asking their parents "Are we there yet?" in "exotic" Pennsylvania.This won't be worse than TAR8 solely because there aren't any kids, there's a manageable cast size, and no NELs. However, TAR8 definitely set TAR down the wrong track for other reasons. Since then, the show has been more about completing menial tasks instead of actually immersing people in the cultures of the place they're visiting. It's not as "amazing" as it was back in the first 7 seasons, where sometimes they'd have to spend a night in a hotel in the middle of town mid-leg and get to see the nightlife of where they were. Or experience the local kids having fun despite being poor.Which leads me to the point of this post: Why did TAR go away from what made it so compelling in the first place? Is there any way to restore that part of it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 07/02/23 1:24:40 AM #36:	Tough As Nails premiere tonight (7/2). ...should I watch the earlier seasons? Never got around to it. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:974568649] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Tough As Nails premiere tonight (7/2)....should I watch the earlier seasons? Never got around to it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/06/23 10:36:10 PM #37:	Definitely watch 1. It's genuinely good. 2 is horrible. 3 is meh; nothing/nobody actively offensive but the highs aren't particularly high either. 4 has its moments. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974675248] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Definitely watch 1. It's genuinely good. 2 is horrible. 3 is meh; nothing/nobody actively offensive but the highs aren't particularly high either. 4 has its moments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 07/10/23 5:28:38 PM #38:	Tough As Nails has been interesting thus far. I like the fact that theres actually some conflict this season, instead of purely inspirational nonsense. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:974751137] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Tough As Nails has been interesting thus far. I like the fact that theres actually some conflict this season, instead of purely inspirational nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/12/23 7:53:50 PM #39:	I've watched the first two episodes of TAN5. Carly has been my favorite from the word go. I don't hate anyone so far but there are a few that I'm wary of potentially becoming bad, particularly Dustin, who seems to have a bit of an inferiority complex that, while not as bad as Danny's, could get annoying. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974800633] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>I've watched the first two episodes of TAN5. Carly has been my favorite from the word go. I don't hate anyone so far but there are a few that I'm wary of potentially becoming bad, particularly Dustin, who seems to have a bit of an inferiority complex that, while not as bad as Danny's, could get annoying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/16/23 9:02:14 PM #40:	Four episodes into TAN5... Man, Paul is just completely unaware of how he comes across, isn't he... --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974882256] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Four episodes into TAN5... Man, Paul is just completely unaware of how he comes across, isn't he...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/18/23 9:42:02 PM #41:	All caught up on TAN5. Wow, this season is really good! I'd say "despite the crappy boot order," but it's not like there are many people left that I'd actively want out, so... --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974926339] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>All caught up on TAN5. Wow, this season is really good! I'd say "despite the crappy boot order," but it's not like there are many people left that I'd actively want out, so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/21/23 8:56:59 PM #42:	Tough as Nails spoilers from tonight's episode: ~~Wow, I'm stunned. I thought Paul was going to the finale for sure. Didn't think he'd win but thought he would probably be the runner-up.~~ --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:974987784] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Tough as Nails spoilers from tonight's episode: Wow, I'm stunned. I thought Paul was going to the finale for sure. Didn't think he'd win but thought he would probably be the runner-up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 07/23/23 9:46:23 PM #43:	Caught up on Tough As Nails. The first half of the season was really strong (and episode 5 was the best of the season), but it's become kinda dull since then. Like, Savage Crew was fun when there was constant drama and spite, but now they're actually trying to work together and be competent, and it saps the fun of the team competition. Additionally, in terms of the cast...the guys are not bringing it at ALL this season. Dustin is such a pointless contestant from a drama perspective. Todd is boring, Kenji is just inspirational sob story after inspirational sob story. Paul was a bit of a dick, but not so much so that he's an interesting villain to root again. Marcus is generically nice, but we never really get to know him beyond him being nice. And then Ben is such an obvious frontrunner that he makes the season super boring. Also, Yesi is far and away the most forgettable character this season. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:975026431] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Caught up on Tough As Nails. The first half of the season was really strong (and episode 5 was the best of the season), but it's become kinda dull since then. Like, Savage Crew was fun when there was constant drama and spite, but now they're actually trying to work together and be competent, and it saps the fun of the team competition.Additionally, in terms of the cast...the guys are not bringing it at ALL this season. Dustin is such a pointless contestant from a drama perspective. Todd is boring, Kenji is just inspirational sob story after inspirational sob story. Paul was a bit of a dick, but not so much so that he's an interesting villain to root again. Marcus is generically nice, but we never really get to know him beyond him being nice. And then Ben is such an obvious frontrunner that he makes the season super boring.Also, Yesi is far and away the most forgettable character this season.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/23/23 11:15:26 PM #44:	Yep that pretty much sums up my opinions on those seven, though I do like Todd and Marcus fine enough. The other five women (excluding Yesi) make up my top 5 for the season quite easily. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:975027723] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Yep that pretty much sums up my opinions on those seven, though I do like Todd and Marcus fine enough. The other five women (excluding Yesi) make up my top 5 for the season quite easily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xuxon 07/26/23 5:49:11 PM #45:	Did anyone hear about/is going to watch the Big Brother special tonight? I'm not expecting much but will still probably watch it. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif <cite>Xuxon posted [p:975082327] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Did anyone hear about/is going to watch the Big Brother special tonight? I'm not expecting much but will still probably watch it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/26/23 5:57:53 PM #46:	I might watch it on demand sometime but I've only been watching since BB18 and haven't gone back to watch older seasons so a lot of it will be lost on me. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:975082458] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>I might watch it on demand sometime but I've only been watching since BB18 and haven't gone back to watch older seasons so a lot of it will be lost on me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaziken 07/30/23 9:17:48 PM #47:	Another season of Tough as Nails in the books. I'd say TAN5...it's tough to rank, because I think the first half of the season is really strong, what with Savage Crew being a complete trainwreck...but then they kinda got their shit together while still losing all the time, and it was neither fun nor interesting anymore. Spoilers for last Friday's Episode and Tonight's Finale: It honestly would have been funnier to have Savage Crew lose AGAIN in the head-to-head competition, but instead they got a meaningless win to finish the season down only 5-4 instead of 6-3. But then we get Dustin absolutely decimated in the individual competition while Ben wins ANOTHER prize, and Dustin gets utterly smoked by Todd, putting Jessica as the last Savage Crew standing going into the finale. Then the finale itself has Ben avoid overtime AGAIN, while Jessica loses to Kenji, so the final is just the three guys from Dirty Hands, really making the season feel dull in retrospect. Like...Dirty Hands had the three best players of the season...no wonder they were so dominant. But unlike season 3, which had a similar outcome, you still had underdog Lia make the end to make the ending feel exciting. This time, even though the final was close in practice, Ben still never really lost the lead once he brute forced his way through the opening challenge. And that's the season...Ben was the front runner from the moment he won the very first competition, and at no point was he ever in danger...it's a dull, anti-climactic ending to a season that had so much promise. Oh, and having Kenji's entire contribution to the final being him failing to finish the second task of the gauntlet was not fun either. Season Ranking: TAN4 TAN3 TAN1 TAN5 TAN2 Cast Ranking: Cheryl Lieteau Akeela Al-Hameed Jessica Hayes Carly Steiman Carolina Paredes Marcus Jones Kenji Ngo Paul Hamilton Todd Anderson Yesi Reyes Dustin Bradford Ben Dempsey --- Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting. http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif <cite>Blaziken posted [p:975162661] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Another season of Tough as Nails in the books.I'd say TAN5...it's tough to rank, because I think the first half of the season is really strong, what with Savage Crew being a complete trainwreck...but then they kinda got their shit together while still losing all the time, and it was neither fun nor interesting anymore.Spoilers for last Friday's Episode and Tonight's Finale:It honestly would have been funnier to have Savage Crew lose AGAIN in the head-to-head competition, but instead they got a meaningless win to finish the season down only 5-4 instead of 6-3. But then we get Dustin absolutely decimated in the individual competition while Ben wins ANOTHER prize, and Dustin gets utterly smoked by Todd, putting Jessica as the last Savage Crew standing going into the finale.Then the finale itself has Ben avoid overtime AGAIN, while Jessica loses to Kenji, so the final is just the three guys from Dirty Hands, really making the season feel dull in retrospect. Like...Dirty Hands had the three best players of the season...no wonder they were so dominant. But unlike season 3, which had a similar outcome, you still had underdog Lia make the end to make the ending feel exciting. This time, even though the final was close in practice, Ben still never really lost the lead once he brute forced his way through the opening challenge. And that's the season...Ben was the front runner from the moment he won the very first competition, and at no point was he ever in danger...it's a dull, anti-climactic ending to a season that had so much promise. Oh, and having Kenji's entire contribution to the final being him failing to finish the second task of the gauntlet was not fun either.Season Ranking:TAN4TAN3TAN1TAN5TAN2Cast Ranking:Cheryl LieteauAkeela Al-HameedJessica HayesCarly SteimanCarolina ParedesMarcus JonesKenji NgoPaul HamiltonTodd AndersonYesi ReyesDustin BradfordBen Dempsey</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/31/23 9:57:45 PM #48:	BB25 cast list is up, and ~~there are not one, but TWO Survivor connections - Cirie's son and Zach's brother.~~ --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:975181052] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>BB25 cast list is up, and there are not one, but TWO Survivor connections - Cirie's son and Zach's brother.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 07/31/23 11:15:33 PM #49:	Underleveled posted... BB25 cast list is up, and ~~there are not one, but TWO Survivor connections - Cirie's son and Zach's brother.~~ They definitely picked one threatening and one benign association. I bet it comes out about Zachs brother and then Ciries son exposes himself and they align secretly. Huge advantage to both potentially --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:975182359] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Underleveled posted... </cite><quote>BB25 cast list is up, and there are not one, but TWO Survivor connections - Cirie's son and Zach's brother.</quote>They definitely picked one threatening and one benign association. I bet it comes out about Zachs brother and then Ciries son exposes himself and they align secretly. Huge advantage to both potentially </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 07/31/23 11:31:56 PM #50:	Chaeix posted... They definitely picked one threatening and one benign association. I bet it comes out about Zachs brother and then Ciries son exposes himself and they align secretly. Huge advantage to both potentially Jared Fields was gonna be on David vs. Goliath but was replaced by Davie after he had a panic attack. He'll either overplay because he's been preparing for years or realize he has to take it slower on a marathon like BB. Zach's brother has no reason to hide "Yeah, my brother was on Survivor for an episode. Nobody really remembers him, they just remember that the winner had a crush on him." Jared....... yeah, he can't let out that his mother is Survivor royalty, except to Zach's brother. That said, I don't really care about BB anymore. I have other things to prioritize in my life than a show that airs three times a week and has live feeds and would take up too much of my life for how little I actually enjoyed it. I kept being disappointed season after season and just gave up after BB23. That was the fifth straight season of disappointment of varying degrees (BB20 being the least disappointing) and I'd just had enough. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:975182584] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>They definitely picked one threatening and one benign association. I bet it comes out about Zachs brother and then Ciries son exposes himself and they align secretly. Huge advantage to both potentially </quote>Jared Fields was gonna be on David vs. Goliath but was replaced by Davie after he had a panic attack. He'll either overplay because he's been preparing for years or realize he has to take it slower on a marathon like BB. Zach's brother has no reason to hide "Yeah, my brother was on Survivor for an episode. Nobody really remembers him, they just remember that the winner had a crush on him." Jared....... yeah, he can't let out that his mother is Survivor royalty, except to Zach's brother.That said, I don't really care about BB anymore. I have other things to prioritize in my life than a show that airs three times a week and has live feeds and would take up too much of my life for how little I actually enjoyed it. I kept being disappointed season after season and just gave up after BB23. That was the fifth straight season of disappointment of varying degrees (BB20 being the least disappointing) and I'd just had enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 08/01/23 12:57:20 AM #51:	~~Hopefully Jared wins to complete the trifecta (unless you want to count Luke from Australian Survivor winning that Australian Celebrity Big Brother season).~~ --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:975183579] in Reality TV... [t:80455805]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully Jared wins to complete the trifecta (unless you want to count Luke from Australian Survivor winning that Australian Celebrity Big Brother season).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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