Board 8 > What was Board 8's general reaction to FFVII Remake?

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I'm in Chapter 4 and am pretty much in love. I don't remember the characters too vividly (I played the original only once 12 years ago), but so far, they've all been recreated with so much care - charm bursts from each of them.

The combat system is better than I expected, and the music hits all the nostalgic notes.

You guys liked this right I mean come on

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Yep, everyone loved it except for pjbasis who never played it

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Leonhart4 posted...

Yep, everyone loved it except for pjbasis who never played it

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I'm actually really neutral on it which is the one place I never thought I'd be. I figured I'd either really love it or think it's absolute garbage. instead I'm just kinda eh.

the pacing is really awful due to dragging out every single section of midgar to the nth degree - but there are parts where it absolutely sings. I think I was really into it when I was at chapter 4 but by the time I got to chapter 7 or 8, I was less enthused.

wall market, though. wall market.

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I haven't gotten around to it but I remember being let down every time there was an update for it. Like no turn-based, or that the game will be in multiple parts at full price. But they always suck me back in every time they released a trailer. And I'm rather optimistic at this point

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yeah, certain chapters definitely drag, but the good parts are extremely good. overall I was quite happy with how it turned out.

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transience posted...

the pacing is really awful due to dragging out every single section of midgar to the nth degree

This is pretty much my only issue with it as well.

Other than that the game is outstanding.

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It was fine. I don't love the original 7 either though.

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They hated him, because he spoke the truth.

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It did almost everything right. But then I couldn't get motivated to do an immediate replay on hard because there's a ton of walking sim stuff to repeat.

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pjbasis posted...

They hated him, because he spoke the truth.

pjbasis should run for president in 2024 because speaking ignorance into reality is a virtue now...!

seriously though, the game does have a ton of filler because they had to stretch 5-7 hours into 40, but when it's great, it's great

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yeah it feels like a false dichotomy to me. they didnt *have* to stretch it out. it would have been better as a 10-12 hour game than as a 40 hour one.

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I also played through it with my wife watching alongside me and she knew nothing about FFVII going into it, and she really enjoyed the story. Of course, trying to explain that they changed a bunch of stuff from the original was a little difficult to explain, but I guess we'll have to play the original at some point.

unless I just want to keep her on Remake to see her reaction to the SPOILER in remake form

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transcience posted...

yeah it feels like a false dichotomy to me. they didnt *have* to stretch it out. it would have been better as a 10-12 hour game than as a 40 hour one.

Eh, I feel like fans would've been a little disappointed if it were only 10-12 hours, even if it probably would've benefited from being streamlined.

I do expect future episodes to be tighter though.

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Im a different kind of fan, I guess. but Im not even talking down the game - I just think back to it and remember like 4-5 really good parts. the rest is just wasted time.

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Oh no, I get it. I would've been fine with 20-25 hours myself. It just feels like RPGs are expected to be bloated nowadays.

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Can't comment on it personally as I didn't play the game yet, but I haven't heard 'wasted time' complaints from people who didn't play the original.

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LeonhartFour posted...

Oh no, I get it. I would've been fine with 20-25 hours myself. It just feels like RPGs are expected to be bloated nowadays.

RPGs have been bloated since the PS2/Gamecube era!

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KamikazePotato posted...

RPGs have been bloated since the PS2/Gamecube era!

I agree, but it keeps going up with each gen!

I blame Persona.

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my GotY

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I wouldn't say it does unless you count WRPGs, and those have had the same amount of bloat since the 360/PS3 era. PS2 Tales and Persona are way longer than FF7 Remake.

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KamikazePotato posted...

I wouldn't say it does unless you count WRPGs, and those have had the same amount of bloat since the 360/PS3 era. PS2 Tales and Persona are way longer than FF7 Remake.

FF7 Remake is only like, 1/5 of a game though!

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LeonhartFour posted...

I agree, but it keeps going up with each gen!

I blame Persona.

This. I'm sure most of us loved the first few times we played that type of game, but then when a bunch of other games try to emulate that formula it gets really old really fast...
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GOTY

After beating the game I immediately started a hard playthrough to get the platinum trophy and I basically NEVER replay games.

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I'm slowly watching Chip and Ironicus play the game. I'll probably never care to play through it myself, but what I've seen has been an amazing level of detail full of an absolute truckload of things one will miss if one is just trying to plow through the game.

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KamikazePotato posted...

I wouldn't say it does unless you count WRPGs, and those have had the same amount of bloat since the 360/PS3 era. PS2 Tales and Persona are way longer than FF7 Remake.

True, but those games get longer each gen, too!

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Fantastic game. Can't wait for Part 2!

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my goty

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Yeah its fantastic. Goty or 2nd best behind Cyberpunk for me

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The pacing is weird but I don't think it was bloated too much out of control. Like they could have probably shaved 10 hours off to make it about 25-30 and that would have been perfect.

The sidequest areas are alright, the combat system is fun enough to keep you wanting more of it, the "filler" is mostly good with some parts that do suck. Basically I'm happy with most of the dungeons but there's a couple that drag on way too long for where they are in the story (looking at you, sewer level).

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Has some outstanding moments, at times a great game, liked the combat system. Unreal music and graphics too obviously, plenty of charm. Voice acting managed to be not that cringey either which was good

I've also never seen a game so clearly demonstrate the difference between "padding out" and "fleshing out". The sewers are padding; the wall market is flesh (a lot of flesh, in fact).

9/10 game imo, liked it way way more than I thought I would
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I liked it, until the ending. Then I loved it.

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I liked it... was a little iffy for awhile and disliked the Shinra mission... but the end made it awesome so I approve immensely.

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Only seen a stream so far, but it tugs the heartstrings enough for me to buy it when it becomes available on Steam or Switch.

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LeonhartFour posted...

I also played through it with my wife watching alongside me and she knew nothing about FFVII going into it, and she really enjoyed the story. Of course, trying to explain that they changed a bunch of stuff from the original was a little difficult to explain, but I guess we'll have to play the original at some point.

unless I just want to keep her on Remake to see her reaction to the SPOILER in remake form

Implying the spoiler still happens

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95 % Hell yeah
5 % this sure is taking a while.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Implying the spoiler still happens

it's still happening yes

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Probably enjoyed it more than the original, which admittedly I didn't love. Some padding, sure, but generally liked the added stuff.

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For the board in general, pretty positive! It got a small plurality of the votes in the GOTY poll topic, not overwhelming but a good sign.

For me? I liked it a lot. There are pacing issues that are not necessarily linked to the decision to split up the story (which I think was necessary), and it has some texture issues, but otherwise its really great.

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I loved it but was initially kind of iffy on the ending. I was planning on immediately jumping back in for a platinum playthrough, but didn't really have the desire to after finishing it.

The big parts I didn't like ended up growing on me over time though and by the time I finished my hard playthrough many months later I was all in.

It's a close #2 on my GOTY list, behind TLOU2.

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better than original FF7 in its entirety

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GOTY 2020

not perfect at all, but has such huge high points that the problems feel relatively minor

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LeonhartFour posted...

it's still happening yes

Is this confirmed?

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it's not confirmed but I think they'd be foolish to completely rewrite the story and they know it

they've said they want to do justice to the original game, and rewriting it isn't how you do that

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I didn't care for it. FF7 isn't even in my top 5 FF games and I never thought the story was all that great, so I didn't mind them changing it but the changes they did make were really dumb. I didn't like the combat either, and there was a lot of unnecessary padding. Also hated how Cloud was forced to a slow walk allllll the time

The way they fleshed out the characters was great though and I came away from it liking all of them more than I did before, and the music and visuals were good.

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I'll end up liking it more than the original FF7 if the rest of the game is of the same quality. I feel like they gave the characters actual life, where as the original ones were all incredibly flat by the end of Midgar imo.

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I've been playing at a feverish pace and am nearing what I gather to be the end (Ch. 13 currently).

I now understand those criticisms about pacing, but it hasn't hindered my enjoyment at all. I've enjoyed just about every chapter and if anything, I've had more "oh man, so good" moments since Ch. 8 when Aerith arrived. There have been so many emotionally resonant moments, and the characterizations flirt with corniness so many times, but surprisingly, haven't been cringy.

I feel that these emotionally impactful moments wouldn't carry the same weight if this were a 12 hour campaign, so I'm quite enjoying the length.

And again, the character roster is my favorite part so far, but Aerith and Cloud steal the show among them. Their scenes together even had my gf (who has no idea what Final Fantasy is) melting.

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Yeah, Aerith is pretty great here. I'm glad they kept her characterization close to the original instead of making her the incorruptible pure girl that KH made her.

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oh youve still got some time, dont worry

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IDGAF

Only took you 15 years (2006) to make it past promised a demo demonstration for the PS3.