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Yesmar_
01/02/21 6:48:18 PM
#101:


I doubt it will even get that far. Once it becomes clear that some hospitals/nursing homes are willing to do this, people will be getting vaccinated real quick.

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Corrik7
01/02/21 6:49:41 PM
#102:


They should make it mandatory. But, even if they don't, then release the stock to whoever wants it.

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Waluigi1
01/02/21 9:22:53 PM
#103:


So it seems the main reason is distrust in the government and rushed nature of the vaccine. Can't really blame people for not trusting the government.

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01/03/21 3:43:15 PM
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Waluigi1
01/03/21 5:49:56 PM
#105:


Le sigh. At least he'll be gone very soon.

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red13n
01/03/21 5:58:18 PM
#106:


Waluigi1 posted...
So it seems the main reason is distrust in the government and rushed nature of the vaccine. Can't really blame people for not trusting the government.

No, we can absolutely blame people for being distrustful. Fuck these people.

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Ryokles
01/04/21 6:00:08 PM
#107:


I can officially schedule my vaccine as of tomorrow. Looking forward to getting out of this nightmare.

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Corrik7
01/06/21 10:11:10 AM
#108:


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html

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Corrik7
01/06/21 11:13:23 AM
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Kinglicious
01/06/21 1:57:09 PM
#110:


Well that was fast. South Africa strain getting more coverage. Already been known for 2 months and spreading slowly.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/01/05/south-africa-covid-variant-appears-to-obviate-antibody-drugs-dr-scott-gottlieb-says.html

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Corrik7
01/06/21 2:09:39 PM
#111:


My fiancee's family seems to finally be taking it "MORE" seriously now since my fiancee's cousins husband has been taken to the ER and can't breathe. I think he is 35.

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Esuriat
01/06/21 2:31:06 PM
#112:


It should be noted that with the South African variant, the only certain part is that it may obviate some of the monoclonal antibody treatments. When they say it "partially" evades natural antibodies, they don't actually know how substantial that part is nor does T cell interaction come into play. There's only this preprint at the moment, so it's something to watch for.

But typical for CNBC to pounce on a preprint and act like it's a countdown to the vaccines being useless. Though I still agree with the urgency to speed up the vaccinations.

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red13n
01/07/21 12:35:20 AM
#113:


4100 deaths reported today.

There is nothing stopping us from having a day that is going to go over 5000 deaths sometime soon.


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Mr Lasastryke
01/07/21 9:36:44 AM
#114:


yesterday, people in my country were vaccinated for the first time.

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Corrik7
01/07/21 11:52:40 AM
#115:


red13n posted...
4100 deaths reported today.

There is nothing stopping us from having a day that is going to go over 5000 deaths sometime soon.
That would be a really massive jump.

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Esuriat
01/07/21 12:54:18 PM
#116:


A general figure that's been noticed since summer is that of confirmed cases in the US, about 1.7% go on to die. So for yesterday's number of 260,973, that would mean about 4,436 deaths 22 days from now, though this and the 4,100 from yesterday are still partially from the holiday backlog. We probably are getting back to "normal" figures by the end of this week.

300k confirmed cases in a single day would do it, though.

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LordoftheMorons
01/07/21 11:24:54 PM
#117:


Pfizer has done testing that suggests that their vaccine still works on the UK and South Africa strains:

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1347385435371282434

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Corrik7
01/07/21 11:58:33 PM
#118:


That's awesome news.

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ninkendo
01/08/21 7:20:52 AM
#119:


Vaccine 2 of 2 done

Didn't have any side effects from the first one, but this one is supposed to be stronger to get it to that 95% efficacy so we'll see how it goes for me this weekend

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Ryokles
01/08/21 9:43:14 AM
#120:


Im going Sunday for number 1 woooooooo

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Maniac64
01/08/21 9:55:50 AM
#121:


My second dose is on the 20th!

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Corrik7
01/08/21 10:42:49 AM
#122:


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/biden-vaccine-strategy/index.html

Hopefully production is up to snuff.

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Dr_Football
01/08/21 2:17:24 PM
#123:


My 97 year old grandfather who lives in assisted living who Ive only been able to visit once in the last 10 months tested positive today

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Corrik7
01/08/21 6:41:18 PM
#124:


I hope he is okay.

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Esuriat
01/08/21 10:28:55 PM
#125:


Hoping for the best for your grandfather, Dr Football

Esuriat posted...


300k confirmed cases in a single day would do it, though.

Ah, guess we're there already.

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ninkendo
01/09/21 5:37:04 AM
#126:


I can confirm I have general body aches, slight chills and a mild fever from the second dose

good thing I don't have to go anywhere until Monday night

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XIII_rocks
01/09/21 6:53:59 AM
#127:


My mum got her second injection about a week ago. She works in a hospital and is 60, so she was among the first to get it

Relief, though also want dad/others to get the jab
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Corrik7
01/09/21 7:03:22 AM
#128:


I am worried about people who get the first dose recently if there will be a second dose to get with Biden's new vaccine policy

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MZero
01/09/21 7:44:42 AM
#129:




Pretty crazy spike out here, as records are being shattered daily. Vaccinations aren't expected to begin until late February

Obviously still pretty mild compared to some other places but not looking good!

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Corrik7
01/10/21 3:26:18 PM
#130:


https://mobile.twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1348080234265006082

Uk and ireland are spiking hard

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Wanglicious
01/10/21 3:42:42 PM
#131:


Corrik7 posted...
I am worried about people who get the first dose recently if there will be a second dose to get with Biden's new vaccine policy

i mean.
if it's NY then yes considering we just threw a bunch out because there weren't enough people, somehow.


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Corrik7
01/10/21 3:47:49 PM
#132:


Wanglicious posted...
i mean.
if it's NY then yes considering we just threw a bunch out because there weren't enough people, somehow.
Because they are trying to limit the people getting it too much. Just open it up to everyone at this point.

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Corrik7
01/10/21 9:45:58 PM
#133:


https://tinyurl.com/y6h4oln5

No shit it's like anyone with a teaching degree could have told you that.

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Corrik7
01/11/21 9:53:08 PM
#134:


"We simply cannot stay closed until the vaccine hits critical mass the cost is too high," Cuomo said in his address. "We must reopen the economy, but we must do it smartly and safely."

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red13n
01/11/21 10:06:58 PM
#135:


Cuomo is a moron, next.

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Corrik7
01/12/21 11:30:57 AM
#136:


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/coronavirus-vaccine-distribution-rollout/index.html

Biden's plan is in effect. Hopefully production keeps up and one dose is enough if not.

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Esuriat
01/13/21 1:14:35 PM
#137:


Virginia's positivity rate seems to be declining, finally. Deaths are at an all time high which relative to other states "hasn't been that bad," and the cases are a little down from last week so far.

The Super Bowl is probably the biggest potential community spread event coming up for the US until Memorial Day, with all the little gatherings that may happen. Beyond that there's Mardi Gras which mainly affects New Orleans (like it did last year) and then St. Patrick's Day which hits pub and bar goers which are some of the most likely to have been infected already. Easter is right around the point where significant proportions of the population will be open to vaccination, particularly if the J&J single dose vaccine is available (and efficacious) then. It will still be a bit problematic, though.

I'm hopeful that by Memorial Day the prospect of a holiday surge represents only a minimal uptick in spread.

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Corrik7
01/13/21 9:05:16 PM
#138:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/13/us-covid-coronavirus-death-toll-cases-vaccine

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Ryokles
01/14/21 6:13:00 AM
#139:


Got my vaccine yesterday. So far my arm is a little red at the injection site and its pretty sore. No worse than the flu shot though! Next shot is on the 12th, cant wait to finally be able to breathe.

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Corrik7
01/16/21 9:50:50 AM
#140:


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/norway-warns-of-vaccination-risks-for-sick-patients-over-80

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Esuriat
01/16/21 10:49:58 AM
#141:


Thank you for your contribution, Norway

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Corrik7
01/16/21 7:52:47 PM
#142:


https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13484

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Corrik7
01/16/21 11:23:45 PM
#143:


In case anyone doesn't wanna read the study, it basically says lockdowns either don't work or relatively have very minimal effect on spread in comparison to just voluntary methods of limiting transmission.

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charmander6000
01/16/21 11:40:56 PM
#144:


Well if you weren't already going to do it voluntarily, you aren't going to change your behavior in what is mostly a toothless lockdown. Like they may have closed restaurants, but you are still going to see your buddies elsewhere. All it likely does is convince a small group of people to begrudingly follow some steps.

Of course this minimal effect can be a difference maker. A 7% or 13% decrease can be quite significant in the right circumstances.

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Corrik7
01/16/21 11:45:21 PM
#145:


charmander6000 posted...
Well if you weren't already going to do it voluntarily, you aren't going to change your behavior in what is mostly a toothless lockdown. Like they may have closed restaurants, but you are still going to see your buddies elsewhere. All it likely does is convince a small group of people to begrudingly follow some steps.

Of course this minimal effect can be a difference maker. A 7% or 13% decrease can be quite significant in the right circumstances.
I think it's saying you can achieve that 7% to 13% decrease through other ways already so the lockdowns don't really have any significant effect.

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charmander6000
01/17/21 12:10:39 AM
#146:


Corrik7 posted...
I think it's saying you can achieve that 7% to 13% decrease through other ways already so the lockdowns don't really have any significant effect.

No, what they said is that the lockdowns in France were 7% and 13% better than Sweden and South Korea, countries which did not have any lockdowns in terms of reduction in case growth.

However, the error bars are crazy large, +/-12% for Sweden and a monstrous +/-25% for South Korea. At that point it's not really telling us much.

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LordoftheMorons
01/17/21 1:37:21 AM
#147:


Corrik7 posted...
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13484
These are the same dudes that have been pushing an anti-lockdown narrative since the very beginning, including publishing an extremely flawed study on seroprevelance early in the pandemic where they claimed (because of their bad study design along with basic math/statistics errors) that some enormous fraction of the population already had covid and that the death rate was correspondingly super low

I would take anything they claim to have found with a mountain of salt

(Bhattacharya and Ioannidis, at least. Can't recall if the first two authors were also on that other paper).

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Corrik7
01/17/21 1:59:59 AM
#148:


LordoftheMorons posted...
These are the same dudes that have been pushing an anti-lockdown narrative since the very beginning, including publishing an extremely flawed study on seroprevelance early in the pandemic where they claimed (because of their bad study design along with basic math/statistics errors) that some enormous fraction of the population already had covid and that the death rate was correspondingly super low

I would take anything they claim to have found with a mountain of salt

(Bhattacharya and Ioannidis, at least. Can't recall if the first two authors were also on that other paper).
Idk. Just see a lot of people linking to this study lately so figured I would post it.

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Leafeon13N
01/17/21 2:08:58 AM
#149:


You see a lot of people link these studies because it fits the narrative they want to believe without them having to read the study.
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Mr Lasastryke
01/17/21 8:12:58 AM
#150:


yeah, i wonder how these "lots of people" lean politically.

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