Board 8 > [VGMC] Video Game Music Contest Topic 5 -- Results and Discussion

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banshiryuu
05/23/20 10:05:35 PM
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Important links:
The bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=473292
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VNrPnFRI7nJ4PqFiURBW0NWqxvXiuasoq8Sn_O169ss/edit?usp=sharing
Nomination playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeKaE-gusMmab0Jk2eHV0zGz5CECkdnTy
Discord: https://discord.gg/WDvMS4a
Last years nominations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17rEeB1_oYWgryWzIxOaZXw2a381gKGnMegjHCG_2OTQ/edit#gid=0
VGMC total stats sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1XdLWiUKB2kX99qYBgnRbLU_sCz4dvZSByKKJHCT6o/edit#gid=362808128

Results, wildcard A2:

38 - Battle! (Colress)
36 - Don't Worry
36 - Tonitrus
30 - SEISMIQ
27 - MADARA
20 - The world of spirit
19 - King Noah
17 - Return to Oblivion
8 - Waterworks Area

Absolutely cut-throat near the end; just one more leap could've led to a very different end!
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Hbthebattle
05/23/20 10:09:08 PM
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Fun fact: Colress is the first mainline Pokemon song to reach round 3! (though to be honest Giratina probably will do this too)
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PIayer_0
05/23/20 10:11:16 PM
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This is almost in reverse order of my preference so, uh, nothing more I could've done once again

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UF8
05/23/20 10:12:30 PM
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without colress these would be pretty much the inverse of my preferences too
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Haste_2
05/23/20 10:14:56 PM
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Two for two! Poor Waterworks Area, though. I tossed it a +1.

Hbthebattle posted...
Fun fact: Colress is the first mainline Pokemon song to reach round 3! (though to be honest Giratina probably will do this too)

Oh, wow. Interesting. It's definitely my favorite in the main series that I've heard. Great post #500, by the way.

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KCF0107
05/23/20 10:16:19 PM
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okay

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xp1337
05/23/20 11:13:28 PM
#7:


that result hurts

this talk of tactical voting i'm seeing is reminding me of BOST1


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azuarc
05/24/20 10:01:13 PM
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Enjoying getting all the thread notifications now, deo. =p Thank you for putting the topic up.

Results, day 55:
Final Destination < An Endless Desert, 18-28
-[Deoxyribose]- > Snake Eater, 29-18

Super Smash Bros. lost because Master Hand got beaten by Kuja. Oh, wait...
Metal Gear Solid 3 lost because it couldn't synthesize new proteins.

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sergiocornaga
05/24/20 10:11:48 PM
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Sometimes you eat the snake, and sometimes the snake eats you.
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NFUN
05/24/20 10:24:13 PM
#10:


Final Destination? More like Final OWNAGE!
Snake Eater? More like OWNED Eater!

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PIayer_0
05/24/20 10:49:06 PM
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Dang, I see a lot of good songs without any standouts in A3 wildcard...might be a 1-1-1-1-1-1 kinda day though I suppose I could go with EXEC_Z and Dreamy Somnom if I had to choose

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TsunamiXXVIII
05/25/20 12:38:08 AM
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PIayer_0 posted...
Dang, I see a lot of good songs without any standouts in A3 wildcard...might be a 1-1-1-1-1-1 kinda day though I suppose I could go with EXEC_Z and Dreamy Somnom if I had to choose
Definitely a 3-3 day for me. Or possibly just a 3 day. A3 was absolutely horrible, and that includes the 3 songs that are still alive.

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TsunamiXXVIII
05/25/20 12:41:14 AM
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Hbthebattle posted...
this is honestly kinda fucking bullshit
not only did lefty vote with 7 SECONDS REMAINING just to be obnoxious
haste's voteswap also fucked over id

Yeah, that's l3fty. He always votes at the last minute.

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azuarc
05/25/20 11:14:26 AM
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I would only say there's no standouts in A3 in the sense that there are a lot of songs I want to toss support to, and not enough points to go around.

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PIayer_0
05/25/20 3:49:05 PM
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One more stats post after the dust has settled from round 1! Graph update from previous topic if you missed it: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78524521/939597353

This time let's look at the records of the biggest series in the contest - how many of their songs moved on from round 1?

Pokemon: 6 of 9
Ar/Ciel tonelico/nosurge: 5 of 7
Kirby: 3 of 6
Fire Emblem: 3 of 5
Final Fantasy: 0 of 5

Ouch, Final Fantasy has not had a retiree since VGMC9 (Break the Limit so close, rip) and will likely have to wait another year bar wildcard redemptions!

As a bonus, I also looked at rhythm games, which included: Arcaea, beatmania, Deemo, GuitarFreaks, jubeat, Lanota, maimai, Nostalgia, Otocadoll (being generous with that one), pop'n, Reflec Beat, Sound Voltex, and Taiko. Out of a combined 17 songs, 10 were able to survive round 1! Interestingly, Sound Voltex was the biggest representative with 4 songs, but came out with 0 wins from Brain Power, Soflan-chan, Speed star Kanade, and Sudden Visitor...if we exclude it as the black sheep of the group, rhythm games had a whopping 10 of 13 or 76.9% winrate, beating out even Exa Pico!

There aren't as many big series in ToC, but I did the same tally based on results up to round 2 only, since round 3 hasn't quite been completed yet. Here, rhythm includes beatmania, Cytus, Deemo, Gitadora, jubeat, pop'n, and Sound Voltex...but not Crypt of the Necrodancer.

Atelier: 1 R1 loss, 0 R2 losses, 4 R2 wins
Rhythm: 3 R1 losses, 2 R2 losses, 3 R2 wins
Umineko: 2 R1 losses, 1 R1 loss, 1 R2 win

Though I've mostly been watching Elferia and Dark Legacy tear through their matchups, it looks like Atelier is the series making a big statement in ToC!

For reference, Atelier also had 3 of 4 songs make it out of round 1 in main bracket. Looking at how both brackets have progressed, it looks like Atelier and rhythm are the big players in our current voter base - data is still very early in main bracket, though!

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azuarc
05/25/20 10:02:08 PM
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Results, day 56:
Megaraph Fleet < L L ~Infinite Beating ver~, 21-24
Class::EXPAJA > Cloak of Darkness, 27-18

Spark the Electric Jester lost because even a mega fleet can't beat infinity.
Escape Goat 2 lost because it could only escape once.

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PIayer_0
05/25/20 10:07:51 PM
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Oh let's go, I thought Megaraph was stomping its match based on the votes I skimmed! Edit: Yeah I was definitely looking at the last votes to come in where it went 6-2 and the batch right before my vote where it was 4-1

I have a pretty clear path to Snake Eater and Eulogia for this one. Maybe a single point to In Circles?

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Hbthebattle
05/25/20 10:08:54 PM
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+3 Megaraph +2 Dance With Me +1 Snake Eater is probably what im going to end up going with lol
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SuperNiceDog
05/25/20 11:07:06 PM
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Megagraph fleet lost? NOO

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NFUN
05/25/20 11:46:49 PM
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Megagraph Fleet? More like MegaOWNED Fleet!
CLASS::EXPAJA? More like OWNED::EXPAJA!

ROLF

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Hbthebattle
05/25/20 11:53:37 PM
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expaja won though, more like NFOWNED
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SuperNiceDog
05/25/20 11:54:10 PM
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NFUN posted...
Megagraph Fleet? More like MegaOWNED Fleet!
CLASS::EXPAJA? More like OWNED::EXPAJA!

ROLF

BOOOOO

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NFUN
05/25/20 11:59:54 PM
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Hbthebattle posted...
expaja won though, more like NFOWNED
$nfun

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azuarc
05/26/20 2:57:06 AM
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NFUN posted...
$nfun

More like Cloak of OWNEDness

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xp1337
05/26/20 8:16:27 AM
#25:


Megaraph Fleet losing hurts. =(

At least I'm spared from the agonizing decision I'd have faced in R3 with it v EXPAJA. I think I vote EXPAJA there but aaaaaaaaaaaa

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azuarc
05/26/20 11:00:29 PM
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Results, wildcard A3:
44 FLIGHTLESS
44 EXEC_Z/.
34 Suite Photoconductivity
33 Ai[UE]OON
26 Final Destination
19 Wings of Terror Phase 2
19 Dreamy Somnom Labyrinth
17 Battle Tower
7 Blooming Villain

This is a very weird set of results for several reasons.
1) This was literally a round 1 match. EXEC_Z won head to head, but only by 2 votes.
2) The tie was a result of a late vote swap. This is the second time someone has swapped their votes in a wild card in the final hour, and both times it resulted in a lead change. I'm not looking too favorably on vote changes right now.

However, given the closeness of R1, I feel it would be a disservice to FLIGHTLESS if I ushered along EXEC_Z under that guise. Had that match been more decisive, I would have felt comfortable with that decision, but as it is, I think we will need to host a run-off.

We're never getting another TOC match, are we?

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PIayer_0
05/26/20 11:04:43 PM
#27:


These songs are just meant to be with each other, it was the only R1 matchup with all capital letters!

So did every one of the 7 songs that didn't win get OWNED?

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NFUN
05/26/20 11:17:06 PM
#28:


aaaaah why did I +3 both

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tgs2
05/26/20 11:30:41 PM
#29:


0/2 in the wildcards so far, and both winners I gave no points to to boot. It's such an awkward feeling lol.
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Hbthebattle
05/26/20 11:50:04 PM
#30:


Aah whyd I only +2 FLIGHTLESS instead of +3
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Team Rocket Elite
05/26/20 11:50:14 PM
#31:


Wow. I was originally going to abstain on the match since I haven't played Persona 5 yet. But, because the link got snuck in under a different name and I didn't noticed, I accidentally listened to the song. So I ended up voting after all. In a different world line I would have just posted "I would have +3'd EXEC_Z/. but I haven't listened to all of the songs" in the topic and there would be a funny mess. >_>
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Haste_2
05/27/20 12:03:27 AM
#32:


I say we should just DQ all wild card contestants that tie for 1st! >_>

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Hbthebattle
05/27/20 12:06:12 AM
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Id accept retroactively banning vote changing and giving EXEC_Z the win if this also applies to Id Purpose being given the win over Imbrium
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xp1337
05/27/20 5:46:52 AM
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The TACTICAL VOTING ACTION part of me whispered that I should only vote for EXEC_Z/. but I have shoved that part of me into a corner and have been ignoring it and just voting whatever my heart decides on a given wildcard day leading me to +3 both of them lol.

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azuarc
05/27/20 10:03:17 PM
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Results, day 58:
Sky Tower < Partizans, 17-23
IDOLA The Strange Fruits > Beyond the Darkness, 28-13

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX lost because it tried to put a sky tower in a dungeon.
Rewrite was edited out of the contest.

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NFUN
05/27/20 10:04:11 PM
#36:


Sky Tower? More like Sky TOWNEDer!
Beyond the Darkness? More like Beyond the OWNEDness!

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PIayer_0
05/27/20 10:17:21 PM
#37:


IDOLA harnessing the power of the PSO2 launch

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azuarc
05/28/20 10:01:07 PM
#38:


Results, wildcard A4:
49 Megaraph Fleet
42 Snake Eater
33 Miracle Matter
26 In Circles
25 Fear Not This Night
24 Cloak of Darkness
18 Eulogia
12 Shop 'til You Drop
10 Dance With Me

2nd place came on strong after blanking most of the early vote, but #1 had too much of a lead with a solid wall of +3's in the mid-to-early votes.

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Team Rocket Elite
05/28/20 10:38:09 PM
#39:


Nice. I'm now 4/4 for picking the song listed second but not the one listed first.
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Haste_2
05/29/20 12:02:09 AM
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Megaraph was one of the three I gave +2 to, so I count that as a victory. Three out of four now. The next twelve pack, B1, is statistically my favorite twelve-pack in the contest. I would give an 8.8 rating or higher to six of them. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the wildcard match for that group!

PIayer_0 posted...
IDOLA harnessing the power of the PSO2 launch

Interesting. I didn't know PSO2 was still relevant.

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PIayer_0
05/29/20 1:08:28 AM
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Well, there's Phantasy Star Online, then there's:
Phantasy Star Online Ver. 2
Phantasy Star Online: Episode I & II
Phantasy Star Online: Episode III
Phantasy Star Online 2 (Japan) - 2012, 2013, 2016, 2018
Phantasy Star Online 2 (North America) - 2020

Wish I could've done more for Snake Eater but Megaraph ain't bad

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azuarc
05/29/20 11:34:31 PM
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Results, day 60:
Sky of Twilight < Flotage (Stage3-B), 20-23
Endeavour > FEEL the POWER in YOUR SOUL, 24-22
EXEC_Z/. > FLIGHTLESS, 26-18

Atelier Escha & Logy lost because, like the setting sun, it sank.
War of Brains lost because Idola Phantasy Star Saga activated try-hard mode.
Hello Penguin finally got EXECuted_Z/.

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PIayer_0
05/29/20 11:39:33 PM
#43:


That was the wrong match 2 joke!

But, progression for that match: 3-8, 6-10, 13-12, 13-15, 18-17, 18-22, 24-22

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Haste_2
05/29/20 11:49:35 PM
#44:


Noooooooo, Sky of Twilight!!!

On the bright side, this means I don't have to worry about Flotage winning the wildcard. Also, this makes Engage the Enemy look pretty good, because it beat Flotage in BOST! Oh, wow, EXEC_Z won it pretty easily this time around. It went from 27-25 to 26-18. I guess most of the voters we lost favored FLIGHTLESS.

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FL81
05/30/20 1:24:31 AM
#45:


Just goes to show that FLIGHTLESS is one of those songs with a few strong supporters, rather than having broad appeal

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Haste_2
05/30/20 12:31:42 PM
#46:


Correction: I just realized there are not six, but SEVEN tracks in B1 that I would likely rate an 8.8 or higher. Five of them will be in the wildcard match, so allocating points will be tricky. Should I do a +1 on all of them except one, or should I only focus on two or three contestants?

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azuarc
05/30/20 2:06:58 PM
#47:


Haste_2 posted...
Should I do a +1 on all of them except one, or should I only focus on two or three contestants?

Yes.

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azuarc
05/30/20 10:02:24 PM
#48:


Results, day 61:
Heading Back to Town < Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke, 20-24
Confronting Myself > Zadok, 24-20

Mr. Driller: Drill Land lost because it got attacked by the gazebo.
Drift Stage lost because it couldn't beat Dark Zadok.

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Hbthebattle
05/30/20 10:04:51 PM
#49:


Moons? Reached
Myself? Confronted

yep its winning time

That was way too close with the CM match. Glad late crew came in clutch.
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PIayer_0
05/30/20 10:09:04 PM
#50:


I'm not liking these dangerously close matches in round 2 so far!

Match 1: 6-6, 9-9, 11-11, 12-16, 16-22, 20-24
Match 2: 5-0, 11-6, 11-14, 14-18, 18-18, 20-20, 24-20

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